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Been made to feel like a outcast at work :(

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Thelily · 29/09/2025 14:30

I started a new job on an NHS ward about 2 months ago. I haven’t had any other trouble settling in roles, but I am auADHD so I suppose I could potentially be seen as a bit shy?

The ward atmosphere is unlike any other ward I’ve been on. I will walk in at the start of my shift and say hi/good morning etc, and no one will reply. Whenever I ask a question to any of the staff they act like it’s a big inconvenience and will roll their eyes. When I walk on the ward, they will stare at me (after I say hello) until I walk down the whole corridor. I feel like I’m not liked, which is fine, but it’s undermining my confidence.

I’ve still got friends from another ward I worked on, so I meet them for lunch (when I get one) but I’m not sure if this is just compounding me feeling isolated with the current team I work with?

A few people do speak to me during the shift, but I feel very isolated and lonely. My manager is only in 2 days a week, and on days they’re not in, I sit largely on my own with a few different appointments with patients across the day.

My manager has said she thinks I’m doing well but “don’t be scared to share your opinions of your patients in the team meetings, you are quite reserved about doing so”. I am reserved here because I know whatever I say will get eye rolls.

Is this normal ward working? I don’t expect best friends, but I am feeling so disheartened and actually dread going into work

OP posts:
Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 30/09/2025 18:58

Get out!! There are some really toxic behaviour on too many nhs wards throughout the UK. If your not feeling it I would leave. This type of environment will seriously damage your mh before long.
Leave

thereneverwasacloudyday · 30/09/2025 18:52

Bullying is rife on the wards by many accounts. I'm so sorry.

MyDeftDuck · 30/09/2025 18:51

This is a form of bullying………they are deliberately NOT including you and also making you feel unwelcome.
As a pp says, be more assertive and repeat the good morning greeting if they continue to not reciprocate. They are acting like spoilt children……”you’re not playing in our gang” mentality!!!! What a way to run a hospital ward!!!
If matters don’t improve then mention to your manager but do keep a note of everything that makes you feel uncomfortable as you might need evidence further down the line. I speak from experience

cleo333 · 30/09/2025 18:47

I’ve just left a job like that . I tried being super nice and then ignoring it but decided I was feeling so miserable not sleeping etc and losing confidence so left . Life is too short to feel this way and they were utterly utterly horrible people I’ve walked away from x

Scarfitwere · 30/09/2025 18:46

Personally I'd call them out on anything obvious, in a cheery outgoing way. Or show concern, like 'gosh is everything ok, you just totally looked through me then' when they ignore you. Stop, look them in the eye and say it. Or if they eye roll, call them out, ask them why they are rolling their eyes when you just spoke. Confidently, with an air of confusion so that you appear unbothered by it and don't feed them more.

DramaLlamacchiato · 30/09/2025 18:45

You poor thing, it definitely sounds like them, not you.

Rosscameasdoody · 30/09/2025 18:45

Thelily · 29/09/2025 15:42

There’s just a major undercurrent all the time. My manager isn’t exactly approachable, and when I mentioned I’m finding it hard to fit in, she has said I need to speak up more.

I just feel deflated. I’m not a shy person, but I feel so awkward at work. It’s all the time now.

ive had very supervision, I feel like I was just thrown in and never checked on.

OP my DiL joined the NHS and was made to feel exactly the same way. In some workplaces there’s a toxic culture from established staff to those who are new. My DiL could have written your post, with the addition that a couple of staff are making her life a misery with indirect bullying. She fell pregnant around 15 months into the job and the bullying got worse - she was also not risk assessed when she declared the pregnancy. Thankfully she is now on maternity leave awaiting the birth but is undecided as to whether she will go back and considering her options as to whether she will sue for constructive dismissal as she doesn’t think she can face returning to the same environment. I really feel for you, but the only thing I can advise is that you need to speak up for yourself more and be assertive. Hopefully things will improve.

Happyjoe · 30/09/2025 18:43

I would've thought communication and camaraderie would be essential to your job, for patient info and to keep you guys going on a 12+ hour shift!

Have a look for another job imo. Something is deeply strange on that ward and things don't tend to change quickly at the NHS. Good luck and be happy!

Hauntedcastles · 30/09/2025 18:42

CrispsPlease · 29/09/2025 16:11

I feel for you. This isn't a you problem. But unfortunately you can't change others. Your cheery good mornings and smiles unfortunately probably make you like nice aka a people pleaser aka vulnerable aka ripe for 'bullying ' (it's a cruel world we live in sometimes).

I would continue saying good morning, if no replies you could say "morning " a bit too loud whilst looking at them directly. It'll force them to probably mumble "morning" back. Make eye contact with people. Hold your head up when you walk. Avoid saying 'sorry' too often or being too eager with 'thankyou so much' etc. they need to earn your respect as much as you need to earn theirs. Stop being so nice and start being more neutral and assertive. Read some books and watch some you tubes on being assertive. I find the nicest, smiliest, kindest people are often the most taken as advantage of. Just remember though : this is all about them. Happy people don't bully others.

If two or three weeks of being more assertive don't work , you need to escalate it to your manager and make it very clear you're being bullied and will take it to HR if needs be. You could confront them directly, but you'll need to reek of confidence in order to do it.

I think some of your advice is correct but do you know it it is so difficult to read people when you are autistic ? And I feel they can use thing like not smiling enough against a person. Similar stuff has happened to me. I bet OP is exhausted by all this crap. And I bet OP is actually a really caring person who is just trying to do her best for the patients on the wards without these daft mind games. Please OP, join a trade union, if you are not in one already and keep a diary. I am so sorry this happening to you xxx

LemondrizzleShark · 30/09/2025 18:38

XenoBitch · 30/09/2025 18:23

I knew before I read your OP that it would be about the NHS.
Utterly toxic and nasty.
The people saying they have not experienced what we have are part of the problem.

Or maybe they just haven’t worked on as many wards as us? I’ve worked on some perfectly lovely wards in my time. The toxic ones were absolutely horrendous and unsafe places, so they stuck in my mind, but plenty of wards are well-run and friendly places.

LemondrizzleShark · 30/09/2025 18:31

It’s definitely not all wards, but a significant minority of wards have really awful cultures. And often massive turnover and terrible performance metrics.

OP if you haven’t had any problems elsewhere, it is them not you. Start looking again, changing a ward culture is next to impossible unless you literally sack everyone and start again (which I have actually known happen, because the nursing leadership were so toxic they were also abusive to patients and they all got struck off).

XenoBitch · 30/09/2025 18:23

I knew before I read your OP that it would be about the NHS.
Utterly toxic and nasty.
The people saying they have not experienced what we have are part of the problem.

hcee19 · 30/09/2025 18:20

This isn't right, you should not feel uncomfortable in your workplace, as we all know, we spend so much of our lives there...
Have a word with your ward manager explaining how you feel. If you don't get this sorted out, you will start dreading going into work and no one should feel like that ...

CC222 · 30/09/2025 18:17

This is a very toxic work environment and it’s very unlikely to change, as it’s the culture of the staff there. Is it possible to look for a new job?

MMUmum · 30/09/2025 18:16

I've known some pretty nasty healthcare staff in my time, delighted in being as intimidating and bullying as they can,however I've known far more lovely teams and staff. You have been unlucky to land in the middle of a nasty set. I would see your options as leaving, sticking it out or trying to be as nice as they are nasty, which can sometimes trigger their shame. If you are intent on staying try to get at least one member of staff on side so you have an ally, and do speak up in meetings, if people pull faces when you speak, call them out on it. Hood luck

Fizzyfish67 · 30/09/2025 18:12

Bless you. I didn’t think this behaviour still happened. Can you look for another job elsewhere? You can report it, and you should, but I still think you should move.

I worked on 2 wards like this, both during my training, and both caused by the ward manager. The first one was because the ward manager enjoyed causing conflict and having a them and us situation. I think she was/is narcisstic but that wasn’t recognised back then. The second was the sister was friends with a care assistant on the ward and was socialising with her, and allowed her to rule the ward. It’s awful and demoralising.

Supersares · 30/09/2025 17:49

Bullying is epidemic in the NHS. I’ve witnessed it and it’s horrible to see. Managers just turn a blind eye to it

Lavender14 · 30/09/2025 08:17

Are they all pally with each other or is this just the general vibe? If the latter then it may actually be nothing to do with you per se and more that they're all a bit burnt out. If you have a manager who's unapproachable and is only there 2 days a week then that's most likely the issue- there's a team that's not being led working in an intensive and emotive environment. People will burn out in those conditions and not act their best selves.

I agree you will need to look elsewhere and in the meantime respectfully call out what you see. Eg. "Cos you explain why you just rolled your eyes when I said X? If you disagree then you can tell me that respectfully" for example.

Thelily · 30/09/2025 08:11

I burst into tears when I got in the car this morning

OP posts:
Dissappearedupmyownarse · 29/09/2025 18:03

Thelily · 29/09/2025 14:30

I started a new job on an NHS ward about 2 months ago. I haven’t had any other trouble settling in roles, but I am auADHD so I suppose I could potentially be seen as a bit shy?

The ward atmosphere is unlike any other ward I’ve been on. I will walk in at the start of my shift and say hi/good morning etc, and no one will reply. Whenever I ask a question to any of the staff they act like it’s a big inconvenience and will roll their eyes. When I walk on the ward, they will stare at me (after I say hello) until I walk down the whole corridor. I feel like I’m not liked, which is fine, but it’s undermining my confidence.

I’ve still got friends from another ward I worked on, so I meet them for lunch (when I get one) but I’m not sure if this is just compounding me feeling isolated with the current team I work with?

A few people do speak to me during the shift, but I feel very isolated and lonely. My manager is only in 2 days a week, and on days they’re not in, I sit largely on my own with a few different appointments with patients across the day.

My manager has said she thinks I’m doing well but “don’t be scared to share your opinions of your patients in the team meetings, you are quite reserved about doing so”. I am reserved here because I know whatever I say will get eye rolls.

Is this normal ward working? I don’t expect best friends, but I am feeling so disheartened and actually dread going into work

I'm so sorry to hear you're being made to feel like this at work. This has nothing to do with you auADHD.
Being ostracised at work is a form of bullying and needs to be addressed with your line manager ASAP and escalated further if you are not taken seriously.
The last thing anyone needs is for you to be signed off with stress and anxiety and your workplace has a duty of care towards your mental health and wellbeing.
You don't need to make friends at work but colleagues should be professional, courteous and inclusive at the very least in the workplace.

Morningsleepin · 29/09/2025 17:56

sugarapplelane · 29/09/2025 16:02

If you’re in Management then what is being actively done to change this dynamic and to stop these so called NHS workers “seeing them off”?
It sounds to me like these bullies get away with it as Management turn a blind eye.

Indeed and that sort of atmosphere will also affect the patients. Very worrying

Butchyrestingface · 29/09/2025 17:35

My manager has said she thinks I’m doing well but “don’t be scared to share your opinions of your patients in the team meetings, you are quite reserved about doing so”. I am reserved here because I know whatever I say will get eye rolls.

I would be telling the manager that for a start. And that the situation is so bad you're looking for a new job.

Your reticence has already been noted and may well be raised at future appraisals. So I'd get in there first.

Everyonceinawhile · 29/09/2025 17:34

Blushingm · 29/09/2025 17:29

But they’re not.

i work fur NHS and my team are caring and close - we’ve had new starters and veterans and all get along

But if you read a lot of the comments up thread it seems to be extremely common so the likely hood of her experiencing it in the next ward ( and throughout her career) is very high…..she needs to learn how to deal with these situations or else she is likely to just keep job hopping which also looks bad…..if you stand up to bullies ( or sometimes completely and blatantly ignore) they usually back down after a while or just get bored and move onto someone else

dizzydizzydizzy · 29/09/2025 17:33

That sounds absolutely awful, OP. It's them not you.

I've never worked for the NHS but I do have AuDHD. The AuDHD could have something to do with why they are treating you so badly (or bullying you even?) which is obviously very wrong.

Does your manager know about your diagnosis? If do so they really should be much much more understanding. Telling you to stand up for yourself more is awful. As a person with AuDHD you are likely to find communication and understanding other peoples's motives much harder. I know for example that I have no understanding of body language, facial expressions or any other non-verbal communication and I cannot 'read the room' or read between the lines so I can easily put my foot in it and people can easily bully me .

Do you have rejection sensitivity disorder as part of your ADHD? My DC2 suffers with this a lot and would be incredibly super stressed by your situation and would assume that everyone hates them.

I imagine you are trying to mask like crazy and are in maximum 'people pleasing' mode.

You must be stressed and exhausted. I really feel for you.

If your manager knows about your diagnosis, this is possibly even discrimination.

Honestly, I think you may need to speak to HR. The treatment you are getting is disgusting.

I hope things pick up.

Blushingm · 29/09/2025 17:29

Everyonceinawhile · 29/09/2025 15:32

But what’s the point in going elsewhere as it seems these bitches are on all NHS wards….she needs to stay and weather it out

But they’re not.

i work fur NHS and my team are caring and close - we’ve had new starters and veterans and all get along