Why are women much nicer than men?

I think there’s a lot of truth in this.

Obviously it’s not all men and not all women but I don’t agree that women in general are “bitchier” or “manipulative”. Most of the incredibly manipulative people I’ve met in life have been men - and the bitchiest!

Not all women are lovely of course. But men do know they can get away with not being nice. Some of the examples you’ve given are ones where men just hold the power to be nasty and selfish - or they’re stronger and more capable of violence.

There's a difference between feeling entitled and not being nice...

Men are more violent but women are unpleasant in their own more subtle ways. As I’ve got older I am more convinced that the typical marriage where there’s no village and men and women are expected to share everything 50/50 isn’t working. Imo. Women need other women to help raise children and homes and men need to go out to work and spend time with other men. Not saying women can’t or shouldn’t work obviously, but trying to water down our roles and become ‘the same’ just seems to breed resentment in so many marriages.

TBH I’ve never found this to be the case. If anything, I’ve probably encountered more bitchy women than nasty-bastard men. Though to be fair, not that many of either.

Just because your sister is a b doesn't automatically mean that women aren't nice than men. Just because my brother is the best artist I've ever seen doesn't make men better artists than women...

I don’t think they are. My sister is the nastiest person I’ve ever known. Woman aren’t automatically nicer.

Women are nice than men. Well, more specifically, they are more agreeable.

To elaborate, the human personality is much like the flavors of food--food is tasted by our taste buds; there are five groupings of taste buds, one for each flavor: sour, sweet, bitter, salt, and savory. How a food tastes depends entirely on the different taste buds the flavorsnt activates. A tangy sauce may activates the sweet and sour taste buds, whereas ice cream may activate the sweet taste buds, with a tad of bitter activation if it's chocolate ice cream that's consumed. 

 The human personality is expressed in a similar manner, with there being five personality traits just as there are five flavors of food.  According to the Big Five model of human personality, we have five distinct traits; all of which will make up who we are. The five traits are: 

extroversion,
neuroticism,
openness (to experience), conscienciousness, and
agreeableness.
Therefore, a happy, talkative person who always forgets things and gets anxious easily would score high for trait extroversion, neuroticism, and maybe agreeableness, but would scor low for trait conscientiousness.

It is a well- known fact that women on balance are more agreeable than men; it's just how the ball bounces. Men score higher for trait openness. All other traits are equal among the semester. But it's that trait agreeable that sets women head and shoulders above men as far as being nice is concerned. In fact, the very reason why women are loathed to admit that they like bad boys, and would prefer to date and marry a man with a dominant personality style, is precisely due to their inclination towards agreeableness. If women weren't so agreeable, they would be more honest with regards to the kind of men they want to date.

Have you ever been to school in the UK?

Ever worked in an office or corporate environment in the UK?

Women are definitely worse than men. Cruel, bullying and nasty.

I read on this site regularly about men who treat women appallingly. For example, cheating on them, physically abusing them, not helping with child care/household tasks, staying out all night, getting drunk, taking drugs etc.

You're basing your theory that women are nicer than men on a site predominantly used by women complaining about men?

If you went to a forum mostly used by straight men you would get to read the same proportion of stories about men apparently being treated badly by women. That would also be useless data to base any big theory on.

You are upset and failing to realise how biased you are being. There are plenty of women that are equally nasty.

Please note that I'm basing this off of my own personal experiences of being around both men and women.

Women are not nicer, they're just better at faking it. Men are straight-to-the-point and are blunt (I'm not saying this is necessarily a good thing. Obviously some men are just rude and were dragged up, not brought up) whereas women are capable of being a lot more snakey, and nice to your face but mean behind your back.

I get along better with women when I'm drunk. When I'm sober, I get along better with men.

I have an ongoing problem with being targeted by the local children. And very definitely the girls are much nastier than the boys. And they take great pleasure in doing and saying unpleasant things. They are much more vindictive.

Read some threads on here. Women aren't nicer than men.

Mumsnet does indeed have many posts about women being treated poorly by men. But there are also many posts about women being treated poorly by their mothers, their sisters, MILs, female cousins, female friends etc. Abusers come in all shapes, sizes and sexes.

Women are absolutely not ‘much nicer than men’.

You get a disproportionate perspective from Mumsnet because a) people mostly only post about their relationships when there’s a problem and b) most users are women so are unlikely to include in their posts a long list of all the shitty things they’ve done in their lives. If this was a forum for men, you would see plenty of posts from men being treated like shit by their wives and get completely the opposite impression.

You might also want to shift your focus from the posts about marriages and relationships to the posts about friendship breakdowns, horrid MILs, narcissistic mothers, bridezillas, hen do dramas etc etc, which are very much full of women behaving like total shitbags to others.

Niceness is not gender-specific. It’s just that on a women’s forum, you are not going to see a representative spread of situations and attitudes across the population as a whole. It’s going to be skewed in favour of women, massively.

Some people are nice. Some people are horrible. That’s all there is to it.

Social conditioning and self preservation.
There's a whole load of expectations on women not to be selfish, to be nice and kind, keep the peace, understand others feelings. Men get a lot more latitude. Their rudeness is 'assertiveness' their selfishness justified as prioritising more important things. Their lack of empathy is seen as strength and determination.
Also given we tend to be at serious physical disadvantage, we often have no choice but to avoid conflict and prevent escalation as it could be dangerous for us otherwise. We learn this young.
Being at a social and financial disadvantage can also play a part, as we may have more to lose from a break down in relations.

I disagree with you. Just look at the horrible nasty comments people make on this site, I would say 99% are women, there are some vicious women on here.

Women aren't fundamentally nicer than men, they just have more subtle, passive aggressive ways of not being nice.

The trait you are talking about is agreeableness, as a survival strategy women are more agreeable than men - they also use fawn as a survival strategy over flight or flight. They (men) have the physical dominance so our response to that is agreeableness.

That is why it is more balanced in woman to woman relationships that agreeableness is not as required so women are more inclined to be less agreeable there.

I find older women are less agreeable because their hormones change and also their need to put up with shitty relationships changes.

Women are not nicer than men and it’s a silly question. What did your husband snap at you about? You would be better off asking the question- why did my husband snap at me and why am I so upset about it. At least that might give you useful information rather than gross generalisations and stereotypes.

nicer is subjective - men and women can both be arseholes. Also, nice isn’t always good. I’d rather know a good and decent person than someone who is nice.

what isn’t subjective are rates of violence, sexual assault and other criminal behaviours. That is what needs focusing on for men, not niceness necessarily.

From a young age boys are told, explicitly and implicitly, that they are the best thing since sliced bread, and the girls are told be nice, be subservient. It’s not hard to see how that translates to adulthood.

It is a bit of a generalisation but generalisations exist for a reason.

I do think that most women are kinder and more pleasant than men. Partly because of evolution and partly because of socialisation. The thjnf that sucks is that while there might have been an evolutionary reason for men to be dick heads right now there is none but we are still.lumbered with them.

They aren't.

I think the root cause is selfishness. Women are less selfish and more aware of others’ feelings and how things impact the people around them. This makes them nicer.

Men are just way, way more selfish. I think the example that best sums this up is that when you have a baby the mum will check in with the dad “I’m taking a shower, can you have the baby” whereas the man will just take a shower when he wants without it occurring to him that he might have other things to do.

I expect it’s partly biological but exacerbated by socialisation too. It’s clear to me that little girls develop empathy fasted than little boys.

And yes this is all generalisations of course.