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Why are women much nicer than men?

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somewhereintheworld · 29/09/2025 08:00

Last night my OH snapped at me for something trivial and hurt my feelings. I find this totally disrespectful and I would never do that to him. This was about 10 hours ago and I'm still upset. I read on this site regularly about men who treat women appallingly. For example, cheating on them, physically abusing them, not helping with child care/household tasks, staying out all night, getting drunk, taking drugs etc. The list goes on. I appreciate there's some horrible women out there as well, but I think they're in the minority. I also appreciate that not all men are like this. Why do the ones I've described act like this? Is it the testosterone? Is it because they can get away with it? Is it because some women are reliant on them financially? I think as a species women are definitely nicer than men and don't disrespect them in the same way. Not really sure this is an AIBU but just wanted opinions.

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gannett · 29/09/2025 10:25

FallingIntoAutumn · 29/09/2025 10:22

Sorry disagree. Men are generally more aggressive than women, but women aren’t nicer.

animals on the other hand. Animals are nicer than humans. Hands down.

Dogs yes. Geese no.

OhBumBags · 29/09/2025 10:24

Also OP, you say you read regularly on this site about men treating women appallingly.

So as a regular reader, how have you managed to miss the masses of threads about awful MILs and SILs etc?

Duckduckagogo · 29/09/2025 10:24

somewhereintheworld · 29/09/2025 08:00

Last night my OH snapped at me for something trivial and hurt my feelings. I find this totally disrespectful and I would never do that to him. This was about 10 hours ago and I'm still upset. I read on this site regularly about men who treat women appallingly. For example, cheating on them, physically abusing them, not helping with child care/household tasks, staying out all night, getting drunk, taking drugs etc. The list goes on. I appreciate there's some horrible women out there as well, but I think they're in the minority. I also appreciate that not all men are like this. Why do the ones I've described act like this? Is it the testosterone? Is it because they can get away with it? Is it because some women are reliant on them financially? I think as a species women are definitely nicer than men and don't disrespect them in the same way. Not really sure this is an AIBU but just wanted opinions.

Was this written by an eleven year old troll, or an adult using chat gpt to troll, I wonder?

Clearly a parody, get off the grog love.

FallingIntoAutumn · 29/09/2025 10:22

Sorry disagree. Men are generally more aggressive than women, but women aren’t nicer.

animals on the other hand. Animals are nicer than humans. Hands down.

PollyBell · 29/09/2025 10:21

OhBumBags · 29/09/2025 10:19

Yes, and often blaming their snappiness on periods or menopause.

Ah the old 'i will act however I want i will just blame hormones'

OhBumBags · 29/09/2025 10:19

KimberleyClark · 29/09/2025 08:20

Women aren't fundamentally nicer than men, they just have more subtle, passive aggressive ways of not being nice.

Yes, and often blaming their snappiness on periods or menopause.

Missj25 · 29/09/2025 10:12

somewhereintheworld · 29/09/2025 08:00

Last night my OH snapped at me for something trivial and hurt my feelings. I find this totally disrespectful and I would never do that to him. This was about 10 hours ago and I'm still upset. I read on this site regularly about men who treat women appallingly. For example, cheating on them, physically abusing them, not helping with child care/household tasks, staying out all night, getting drunk, taking drugs etc. The list goes on. I appreciate there's some horrible women out there as well, but I think they're in the minority. I also appreciate that not all men are like this. Why do the ones I've described act like this? Is it the testosterone? Is it because they can get away with it? Is it because some women are reliant on them financially? I think as a species women are definitely nicer than men and don't disrespect them in the same way. Not really sure this is an AIBU but just wanted opinions.

I’ve always thought that too OP being honest , like as a rule we are more geuine & kinder , more trustworthy, I know you will get obviously women that aren’t nice but as a whole like you say we are nicer 🤷🏻‍♀️..

I would never cheat on a partner simply because I’d feel so guilty, & I couldn’t be so fake , whereas I have been cheated on in the past , he had no problem seeing someone else , coming home to me , all about me , having sex with me , but still he was seeing this other woman..
It’s just so fake isn’t it 🤷🏻‍♀️..

Anyway, I’m on board with you OP 🙂

Dishwater · 29/09/2025 10:12

I agree with you. I think we’ve just been accustomed to accept it! Decades of placating. I never hear a man complain that his wife snapped at him! We’re more patient, we are reflective, nurturing etc. Then they just ogle other women or cheat anyway 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’m in a relationship by the way but I genuinely think they’re almost all dirt. I would never have another man live with me if I mange to get rid of this one 😂 I look back at my long term ex and it’s only two decades later that I can see that even though he was one of the ‘good’ ones he was still unfair, he still took advantage of my labour and nurturing and most likely cheated on me. He cried when I left him and begged me to come back for a year, all whilst talking to other women (totally his perogative and I was glad when he actually got a GF because he left me alone) but it kind of proves to me that they don’t feel the same as us about love.

InTheWellBeing · 29/09/2025 10:10

You’ve clearly not been on this site long enough if you think women are nicer than men!

Uggbootsforever · 29/09/2025 10:05

ExpressCheckout · 29/09/2025 09:56

Crickey. Three of the most toxic, psychopathic and manipulative people I ever worked with were white, middle-class women. Cruel and ruthless. Public sector, too, which rightly or wrongly feels somehow more shocking.

I think women have a greater capacity to be emotionally cruel or cunning, whereas men have a greater capacity to be violent or selfish. There’s lots of types of ‘nasty’ and I think the sexes cluster toward different types.

Generally the worst women I’ve known have been extremely cunning, always plotting scenarios that work out best for them but worse for other people, usually through jealousy. The worst men have been violent, usually addicted to drugs or alcohol and utterly feckless when it comes to their children.

gannett · 29/09/2025 10:05

Does it ever occur to anyone on this site that people can just have personality traits - nice or bitchy or aggressive or whatever - that are in fact independent of sex and gender? It's like an iron law on MN that absolutely every character trait HAS to be seen through the male/female prism.

dottiedodah · 29/09/2025 10:01

Men have an inbuilt self preservation policy I think .Many men are kind to children and animals. But will still have a "hobby" or two, that take up chunks of their time leaving their wife babysitting /dog sitting /shopping etc .Women are conditioned to be the default parent in many cases .Possibly some women may cheat, but lots (not all ) men will cheat if they get a chance.How many will justify it by "not getting enough attention at home " Read sex into attention! Women are kinder generally as Child bearers and home makers .

ExpressCheckout · 29/09/2025 09:56

Crickey. Three of the most toxic, psychopathic and manipulative people I ever worked with were white, middle-class women. Cruel and ruthless. Public sector, too, which rightly or wrongly feels somehow more shocking.

Toddlerteaplease · 29/09/2025 09:50

I’ve not noticed that they are. I know lots of absolutely lovely men. Who bare no resemblance to men portrayed on Mumsnet. Women are for more bitchy.

GlosGirl82 · 29/09/2025 09:50

Because a man can rape and kill a women. I agree that in a relationship, women are nicer. We hold back on making a comment, or avoid a confrontation etc. all because of a deep knowledge that men are bigger than us and therefore more dangerous. We are the only species that is taught to appease our predator

Uggbootsforever · 29/09/2025 09:46

Mumof2wifeof1crazytimes · 29/09/2025 08:23

I disagree with you. Just look at the horrible nasty comments people make on this site, I would say 99% are women, there are some vicious women on here.

Could it be because this is ‘mums’net?

Pop across to Reddit for some comparators?

autienotnaughty · 29/09/2025 09:46

HedwigEliza · 29/09/2025 08:07

They’re not. Women are more manipulative, two faced and bitchy.

With other women more than with men

Constellar1 · 29/09/2025 09:45

SunnySideDeepDown · 29/09/2025 08:09

Not all women are nicer in relationships, they’re better communicators though and when they’re upset/annoyed, we rarely turn to violence unlike men. But women can and do say very cutting things and I’d say can be controlling in more subtle ways.

Socially, outside of intimate relationships, I’d say men are nicer on the whole.

But everyone’s different. Why don’t you sit down with your husband and talk it through. I’ve been with my husband 20yrs, we’ve both snapped at each other hundreds of times. I thought that was normal? We’re also kind other times. It’s normal to have ups and downs in relationships as long as no one is actively mean to each other.

I disagree with the idea that men are more prone to violence in the relationship. In fact, women commit more domestic violence than men do. Yes, I know women report DV more often than men, but the fact remains that women commit the lions share of violent acts in a relationship. PROOF: as a woman, ask yourself this: how often have you thrown a pan or plate at your man, thrown a newspaper or book at him, kicked your man, or even slapped your man? Okay, now answer this: how many times has your man ever done the same to you?
I rest my case...

Icanttakethisanymore · 29/09/2025 09:44

This is a site whose posters are predominantly women. Some of these women come on to talk about how awful their partners are. It’s hardly surprising that you get a somewhat skewed picture of how ‘nice’ men are.

SqueakyDinosaur · 29/09/2025 09:41

This thread reminds me of one of my favourite poems, by Robert Graves:

Why have such scores of lovely, gifted girls
Married impossible men?
Simple self-sacrifice may be ruled out,
And missionary endeavour, nine times out of ten.

Repeat 'impossible men': not merely rustic,
Foul-tempered or depraved
(Dramatic foils chosen to show the world
How well women behave, and always have behaved).

Impossible men: idle, illiterate,
Self-pitying, dirty, sly,
For whose appearance even in City parks
Excuses must be made to casual passers-by.

Has God's supply of tolerable husbands
Fallen, in fact, so low?
Or do I always over-value woman
At the expense of man?
Do I?
It might be so.

CandyRibbon · 29/09/2025 09:41

Constellar1 · 29/09/2025 09:32

Just because your sister is a b doesn't automatically mean that women aren't nice than men. Just because my brother is the best artist I've ever seen doesn't make men better artists than women...

Not saying that, simply saying there are plenty of nasty women around and the nastiest person I’ve ever known is a woman.

Chiseltip · 29/09/2025 09:39

Constellar1 · 29/09/2025 09:35

There's a difference between feeling entitled and not being nice...

You were one of them weren't you!

Constellar1 · 29/09/2025 09:39

tiredangry · 29/09/2025 08:04

Women aren’t nicer than men. It’s just more obvious when men are behaving badly. Women who behave badly are more likely to be manipulative, where are men who behave badly will just have an outburst.

You can be manipulative and still be nice. In fact, a measure of one's success as a manipulator depends largely on how nice he's being.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 29/09/2025 09:38

Also - all that said- the bitchiness that men and women are capable of is generally less harmful that actual violence.

The bitchy man I’m thinking of just created a bad working atmosphere , he didn’t physically hard anyone - so even when women can be bitchy too (both sexes can), they’re not killing anyone.

brunettemic · 29/09/2025 09:36

Absolutely not.