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I'm happy pubs are dying out

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Raymondsam · 28/09/2025 18:02

In my town at least.

Maybe decades ago the argument could be made that they're social hubs for people to unwind, meet and have a good time on a weekend.

Nowadays they're just hovels where mostly retired old boys go to binge drink in the daytime and cost the NHS billions in the various cancers strokes and host of other comorbidities that crop up.

The three biggest ones in my town are the typical chain owned leasehold places. Big companies that own hundreds of pubs all over the country. They treat the leaseholders like crap, if they start to turn a decent profit they up the rent.

OP posts:
HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 29/09/2025 20:59

Meadowfinch · 29/09/2025 20:47

But your experience is just yours OP. The rest of the UK isn't the same as your bit.

Our village pub is the centre of our village. It hosts the May Fayre, darts, billiards, assorted Christmas stuff. They do the lunch catering for the primary school.

They serve the best fish & chips, make big vats of veggie soup & crusty bread for fireworks night. Big children's area in the garden. Most of the village goes in there at some time in the week.

Why would we want to lose that?

Exactly. One of the pubs in our village has has a monthly ‘world tapas’ night with the proceeds going to local community groups and charities. They host a Santa’s grotto, an Easter egg hunt and were the only pub for miles to make a big deal
out of the women’s football and rugby.
When we had no kitchen due to major renovations the landlord would send us home with leftovers.

It’s right of passage for the village kids to work there (or one of the other pubs) at some point progressing from glass washer to bar staff before heading to uni.

During the summer people head to the beer garden after the school run and the landlord throws a party for the year 6 kids on their last day of primary school.

Our pub industry should be protected not shut down.

AbbeyGrange · 29/09/2025 20:49

Meadowfinch that sounds great, just as a pub should be.

Meadowfinch · 29/09/2025 20:47

But your experience is just yours OP. The rest of the UK isn't the same as your bit.

Our village pub is the centre of our village. It hosts the May Fayre, darts, billiards, assorted Christmas stuff. They do the lunch catering for the primary school.

They serve the best fish & chips, make big vats of veggie soup & crusty bread for fireworks night. Big children's area in the garden. Most of the village goes in there at some time in the week.

Why would we want to lose that?

AbbeyGrange · 29/09/2025 20:46

localnotail · 29/09/2025 20:28

Regulars = monotony and no new faces, people with interests so narrow I could predict everything they would say
drag acts = someone called "vanilla rimmer" is not something I can ever take seriously or enjoy as entertainment
piss beer = ale is boring, where is IPA or prosecco??
my ex = whole other story, none of yer beeswax
being "dragged" to the pub = have you read my post? I stopped going when I had enough

Pubs were not a problem but I disliked them hence my message in support of not feeling sorry of them disappearing. I get its part of the heritage and cultural tradition but so as workhouses, caning in schools and hatred of Irish. Some traditions are best gone.

Those pubs sound like shit anyway, and drag acts generally don't entertain at rural vilage pubs, more like busy city/town centres

xSideshowAuntSallyXx · 29/09/2025 20:45

localnotail · 29/09/2025 20:32

That I agree is a shitter. But as most pubs are losing money anyway I would suspect those jobs are precarious at best.

I hope that most places can re-brand/ diversify into something different and keep the staff.

But what? We are saturated with coffee shops and restaurants are struggling.

Not everyone wants to spend a fortune on an overpriced fancy burger with chips in a small colander or some trendy beer in a gastro pub.

There's nothing better than proper pub grub and a pint of real ale or a cold beer. It's why Wetherspoons are so popular, they sell proper ale and food people like at prices people can afford. I can get a round for 6 quid and food for two for £15.

We should be saving pubs not killing them off.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 29/09/2025 20:42

Regulars = monotony and no new faces, people with interests so narrow I could predict everything they would say

or friends. People with a shared history and community. You can always choose not to talk to them, I’m sure they’d be okay with that.

drag acts = someone called "vanilla rimmer" is not something I can ever take seriously or enjoy as entertainment

Don’t go when they’re performing. It’s not difficult.

piss beer = ale is boring, where is IPA or prosecco??
Are you saying the only served beer? Cos every pub I’ve been to in the last 5 years serves Prosecco.

Pubs were not a problem but I disliked them hence my message in support of not feeling sorry of them disappearing. I get its part of the heritage and cultural tradition but so as workhouses, caning in schools and hatred of Irish. Some traditions are best gone.

This comment is beyond insulting and just makes you sound ridiculous. Comparing a whole section of the hospitality industry to the days when Irish people (and people of colour) were banned from even entering pubs is beyond crass.

Nobody is forcing you to go into a pub so stop being so ridiculous.

MissPobjoysPonies · 29/09/2025 20:41

localnotail · 29/09/2025 20:28

Regulars = monotony and no new faces, people with interests so narrow I could predict everything they would say
drag acts = someone called "vanilla rimmer" is not something I can ever take seriously or enjoy as entertainment
piss beer = ale is boring, where is IPA or prosecco??
my ex = whole other story, none of yer beeswax
being "dragged" to the pub = have you read my post? I stopped going when I had enough

Pubs were not a problem but I disliked them hence my message in support of not feeling sorry of them disappearing. I get its part of the heritage and cultural tradition but so as workhouses, caning in schools and hatred of Irish. Some traditions are best gone.

You are so very wrong.

localnotail · 29/09/2025 20:32

XenoBitch · 29/09/2025 20:30

Apparently, the UK pub industry supports around 1040,000 jobs.
If pubs died out tomorrow, where would all these people go?

Edited

That I agree is a shitter. But as most pubs are losing money anyway I would suspect those jobs are precarious at best.

I hope that most places can re-brand/ diversify into something different and keep the staff.

XenoBitch · 29/09/2025 20:30

localnotail · 29/09/2025 20:28

Regulars = monotony and no new faces, people with interests so narrow I could predict everything they would say
drag acts = someone called "vanilla rimmer" is not something I can ever take seriously or enjoy as entertainment
piss beer = ale is boring, where is IPA or prosecco??
my ex = whole other story, none of yer beeswax
being "dragged" to the pub = have you read my post? I stopped going when I had enough

Pubs were not a problem but I disliked them hence my message in support of not feeling sorry of them disappearing. I get its part of the heritage and cultural tradition but so as workhouses, caning in schools and hatred of Irish. Some traditions are best gone.

Apparently, the UK pub industry supports around 1040,000 jobs.
If pubs died out tomorrow, where would all these people go?

AbbeyGrange · 29/09/2025 20:30

xSideshowAuntSallyXx · 29/09/2025 19:31

And they'll continue to be as they're easy targets, as seen from this thread people just can't see past their narrow view.

Pubs have been around for 100s of years. One near me still had the rings for tying your horse to. Others have priest holes and underground tunnels, some are said to be haunted. The stories go back centuries. The buildings and pubs have been there longer than the town (when it was just fields and villages with hunting lodges and taverns), you can see old photos on the walls and see how much it has changed.

The local pubs also do things like offer those that have no one at Christmas a chance to get out and have a meal on Christmas day sat around a table with people.

To see them go would be a travesty and would be a loss of not just a social place but part of the history of a town.

Yes you're so right, the pub in my village dates from the 13th century, there's so much history attached to it,..

PrimeTimeNow · 29/09/2025 20:29

I’m teetotal and very rarely set foot in a pub unless it’s for a Sunday roast but even I think you’re being a miseryguts.

FeetLikeFlippers · 29/09/2025 20:29

With all the shit going on in the world right now, this is a strange thing for you to be fixated on! You also don’t make any sense because one minute you are complaining about the clientele and their burden on the NHS, and the next minute it’s the big corporations taking over that’s the problem. There’s clearly more to your post than you are telling us.

localnotail · 29/09/2025 20:28

MissPobjoysPonies · 29/09/2025 10:00

So the problem was:
Regulars = community and friendship
drag acts/quizzes= community and entertainment
piss poor beer (you don’t like beer) = there was genuinely no other offering
being your your ex = errr perhaps you didn’t have anything in common
being dragged to the pub = you are aware you could have declined going?

At which point was the pub the biggest problem? And therefore why is it justification to want to close them all?

Regulars = monotony and no new faces, people with interests so narrow I could predict everything they would say
drag acts = someone called "vanilla rimmer" is not something I can ever take seriously or enjoy as entertainment
piss beer = ale is boring, where is IPA or prosecco??
my ex = whole other story, none of yer beeswax
being "dragged" to the pub = have you read my post? I stopped going when I had enough

Pubs were not a problem but I disliked them hence my message in support of not feeling sorry of them disappearing. I get its part of the heritage and cultural tradition but so as workhouses, caning in schools and hatred of Irish. Some traditions are best gone.

MissPobjoysPonies · 29/09/2025 20:24

localnotail · 29/09/2025 20:20

I like east London gastro-pub type places and local micro-brewery pubs. But they are deffo not "traditional" in any sense of the word.

No, because pubs move with the times as do other businesses but being glad pubs are dying means these go too……..
As has previously been said Pubs are not a homogenous group, just like cafes, restaurants or holidays aren’t.

localnotail · 29/09/2025 20:20

LillyPJ · 29/09/2025 07:24

You went to the kind of pubs that didn't suit you. There are many, many others.

I like east London gastro-pub type places and local micro-brewery pubs. But they are deffo not "traditional" in any sense of the word.

Toofficeornot · 29/09/2025 19:39

I know the kind of pubs you mean. I worked in one in my teens, absolute soulless dives. But I do love a good pub. The ones near us are lovely, cosy, warm fires, good food, board games, music nights, some are more family orientated, some are more up market, some are community hub type places. I actually love pub culture in the right pubs. I just don't get to go them much anymore.

Deboragh · 29/09/2025 19:32

Sporadica · 28/09/2025 18:09

'Old boys' like public school alumni? Or well-behaved aging Labradors? Or traditional gentlemen from the US South?

I'd guess the clientele depends on the type of pub and the area. I do agree with you, though, that I'm not impressed with any of the big pub chains - problem is, as prices rise out of control for many people, it's the most horrible lowest common denominator chains that appear the most accessible for people who genuinely can't just forgo the pub.

Wtf is a traditional ' gentleman' from the US south..lol pubs are generally British.

xSideshowAuntSallyXx · 29/09/2025 19:31

MissPobjoysPonies · 29/09/2025 09:47

That is very true, however the support for pubs has been lacking since Covid, wishing it dead is obnoxious and not going to achieve additional employment for less skilled workers, or growth in the economy. There are studies which show how important pubs are to the economy and to the community.

PP is correct - there is nothing homogenous about pubs.

The travel and hospitality industry have been done dirty by successive governments.

And they'll continue to be as they're easy targets, as seen from this thread people just can't see past their narrow view.

Pubs have been around for 100s of years. One near me still had the rings for tying your horse to. Others have priest holes and underground tunnels, some are said to be haunted. The stories go back centuries. The buildings and pubs have been there longer than the town (when it was just fields and villages with hunting lodges and taverns), you can see old photos on the walls and see how much it has changed.

The local pubs also do things like offer those that have no one at Christmas a chance to get out and have a meal on Christmas day sat around a table with people.

To see them go would be a travesty and would be a loss of not just a social place but part of the history of a town.

NewYorkie39 · 29/09/2025 19:30

Sounds like you live in a pretty crappy area. Personally, I love the atmosphere in a decent pub, with good beer and food. Unfortunately, disappearing fast.

Itiswhysofew · 29/09/2025 19:26

YABU to say you're happy that these businesses are closing. I'm not a pub goer, but lots of people are. They want the social side of it. My village pub opens in the evenings, but it also caters for weddings, funerals, etc, during the day and into the wee hours. It hosts a bikers weekend once a year, a women's walking club, the choir, an art class, social dancing, big matches on TV, you get the idea. Shane McGowan even used to drink there 😁

The owner is a gem of a man and the village would miss it if he has to close. The other village pub closed a few years back.

Jayne35 · 29/09/2025 19:20

We have many pubs locally where we go to meet friends, watch a band and have a few drinks, they are not hovels, nor full of drunk old men, some pubs in the town attract lots of young people to watch live music, or attend jam nights.

Trishyb10 · 29/09/2025 19:15

So where are you wanting to”normal,ordinary” folk to go? arent you the privileged one… for 28 moths i have taken my alzheimers poorly dad daily to such places and let me tell you they have been a lifeline.. a hot meal, a social hub or just a coffee, they have kept dad and i “sane” .. you have alot to learn in life …..

AlleycatMarie · 29/09/2025 19:14

My local is a wonderful, community-spirited place that puts on family events weekly, raises money for local causes and is just a very supportive place.

Just because you don’t like pubs, please don’t assume all who do are some kind of demographic you’ve created in your head.

LouiseK93 · 29/09/2025 19:09

Screw you 😭😭😭

vickylou78 · 29/09/2025 19:00

You need to find a better pub!! The pubs around here are wonderful and great food and atmosphere just to have a natter with friends and get out of the house, pub quizzes, live bands, pop up kitchens, comedy nights, brunch or roast dinners, beers in the garden, playing cards or board games so many good opportunities. What would be the alternative? More coffee shops? We already got plenty of those!! Or should everyone just stay home on their own??

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