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I'm happy pubs are dying out

343 replies

Raymondsam · 28/09/2025 18:02

In my town at least.

Maybe decades ago the argument could be made that they're social hubs for people to unwind, meet and have a good time on a weekend.

Nowadays they're just hovels where mostly retired old boys go to binge drink in the daytime and cost the NHS billions in the various cancers strokes and host of other comorbidities that crop up.

The three biggest ones in my town are the typical chain owned leasehold places. Big companies that own hundreds of pubs all over the country. They treat the leaseholders like crap, if they start to turn a decent profit they up the rent.

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LillyPJ · 28/09/2025 19:37

Pubs are great hubs for people to meet, relax and socialize. Nowadays, there are plenty of non-alcoholic drinks available and the Wetherspoons pubs I know are full of groups of men and women, families out for a meal, people of all ages... It will be a sad day if all pubs close.

BauhausOfEliott · 28/09/2025 19:36

Christ, you sound like worst kind of bitter, gloating fun sponge.

Bambamhoohoo · 28/09/2025 19:34

Btw I’m sober and absolutely love pubs. Where else can you sit down, breathe, start a conversation afresh without distraction, maybe stay for hours? Not forgetting the interesting buildings, history, gardens etc many pubs offer

Nodecaffallowed · 28/09/2025 19:33

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Bambamhoohoo · 28/09/2025 19:33

Look I’m not one to worry about men much but the men’s mental health crisis is real and we’re all suffering for it. Back in the day men would pop down to the pub, socialise, come home. So many men haven’t managed to replace or develope this contact in any other way. I was talking to a group the other day actually about how our male partners, brothers and dads are all suffering to varying degrees from lack of social life.

Wiltingasparagusfern · 28/09/2025 19:33

Raymondsam · 28/09/2025 18:02

In my town at least.

Maybe decades ago the argument could be made that they're social hubs for people to unwind, meet and have a good time on a weekend.

Nowadays they're just hovels where mostly retired old boys go to binge drink in the daytime and cost the NHS billions in the various cancers strokes and host of other comorbidities that crop up.

The three biggest ones in my town are the typical chain owned leasehold places. Big companies that own hundreds of pubs all over the country. They treat the leaseholders like crap, if they start to turn a decent profit they up the rent.

Think your town is the issue. Not the whole concept of pubs.

I’m in my local all the time, it’s a real community hub. Lots of families, decent wine and beers on tap, fancy food but also a cheap lunch menu, huge garden and terrace, lovely staff. I can’t imagine life without it

Marylou2 · 28/09/2025 19:33

How miserable. I don't drink but I love my local pubs. Place to meet friends, pub quiz, band on a Saturday night, just booked a wreath making class at Christmas. You're going to the wrong pubs.

AbbeyGrange · 28/09/2025 19:32

You're being very naive if you think if a pub goes out of business then everyone will stop drinking! Tesco sometimes have the offer of buy 6 bottles of wine get 25% off, if pubs close they can still get booze.
Honestly the pub has been part and parcel of Britain for centuries. I don't know where you live but it sounds grim werever it is, the pub in the next village to me is steeped in history, King Charles II stopped there after his defeat at the battle of Worcester, I love history like this and it's a beautiful pub, it's not just about booze it's so much more than that, you do know you can get Tea, Coffee and soft drinks in pubs?

Sunbeam01 · 28/09/2025 19:32

MissPobjoysPonies · 28/09/2025 18:28

You are the first OP I genuinely want to fuck off.

you simply know nothing about how much pubs contribute to the economy or employment. Lose pubs and multiple other companies will also slip away.

not a single pub I know fits your description, it is not something I recognise at all and I regularly visit and deal with publicans for work.

I couldn't agree more.

OP perhaps they would still be social hubs if people could actually afford to drink in them. Society is so divided these days. I'm sick of it.

LancashireButterPie · 28/09/2025 19:32

I see the effects of loneliness every day and I bet it costs the NHS a lot more than even alcohol does.
Most pubs rely on food sales these days. I don't drink alcohol at all but I love to go to our local pub to meet friends and have a catch up. I also like to play pool with DH when I get the chance.
DS often works from his local pub in a very isolated village, he would see no one on his home working days otherwise.
If you don't like pubs, don't go. You really won't be missed.

KickHimInTheCrotch · 28/09/2025 19:29

Sounds like your town is a shit hole.

My village has 3 independent pubs that are busy throughout the year with families, couples, groups of friends, darts and skittles teams, people playing cards and chess, walkers, cyclists people on their own who are passing through or just want to sit somewhere with a bit of life. All serve food and a range of alcoholic and non alcoholic drinks, much of what they serve is produced or manufactured locally (local ales for example). They employ chefs, waitresses, bar staff, glass collectors, cleaners.

What's wrong with any of that.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 28/09/2025 19:29

Where I live the local pubs absolutely are the hub of the community. We’ll continue to support them as much as we can.

Lonelycrab · 28/09/2025 19:26

Yabu

feellikeanalien · 28/09/2025 19:25

MyDeftDuck · 28/09/2025 19:14

What the OP has failed to acknowledge is that the pub, for some who live alone, is often their only social outlet. It might be that elderly man who’s lost his wife, kids live some distance away, having a pint in the evening, often sitting alone and maybe having a chat with the bar staff but quite often not……take that away OP and what has he got? …….bugger all!

That was my next door neighbour. He was 87 when he died last year but still went to the pub regularly.

Our local pub has quiz nights, darts nights and other events. It also has accommodation and does a very popular Sunday lunch. It it the heart of the village really.

HRchatter · 28/09/2025 19:25

Alcohol and drugs related incidents take up 90% of the police’s daily work load
Anything that reduces either would be great

Nodecaffallowed · 28/09/2025 19:22

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Raymondsam · 28/09/2025 18:02

In my town at least.

Maybe decades ago the argument could be made that they're social hubs for people to unwind, meet and have a good time on a weekend.

Nowadays they're just hovels where mostly retired old boys go to binge drink in the daytime and cost the NHS billions in the various cancers strokes and host of other comorbidities that crop up.

The three biggest ones in my town are the typical chain owned leasehold places. Big companies that own hundreds of pubs all over the country. They treat the leaseholders like crap, if they start to turn a decent profit they up the rent.

so what are the “Old boys” meant to do now ? You sound like an insufferable fun sponge

Hobnobswantshernameback · 28/09/2025 19:20

Goady bitchplopping twattery
sooo edgy op
🙄

EmeraldRoulette · 28/09/2025 19:19

I'm just back from a local social thing at the pub

I don't see anyone else apart from them a couple of times a month. I'm completely isolated. Most of the time I cope alright with it, but I'm having a really hard time at work at the moment.

Isolation is the main reason I'm on here. Being in the pub and actually having face-to-face contact and much needed hugs was incredibly valuable. The group was women and one man.

I'm interested to know why you're so angry at them that you want them to close down. I don't use bowling alleys, but I'm not wanting them to be closed down.

Crudd99 · 28/09/2025 19:19

Ginmonkeyagain · 28/09/2025 18:33

Also I Imagine a lot of problem drinkers are doing it in their own homes, not in pubs.

Or on the streets. Problem drinkers drink for the effect not for company and won't usually pay pub prices when they can get the really strong stuff from the local shop. I don't drink but I like to go to the pub now and again , have a meal and socialise. I've got no problems with anyone drinking sensibly and being a bit merry.

DoYouReally · 28/09/2025 19:18

I couldn't be happy about businesses shutting down, owners and staff losing jobs, suppliers losing income, buildings often left vacant, etc.

No, can't take happiness from someone else's misfortune.

Alcoholics will always find a way to drink. Even if every pub shut down tomorrow. Alcoholism wouldn't be eradicated.

Aethelredtheunsteady · 28/09/2025 19:18

Sounds like you live somewhere with crap pubs.

BMW6 · 28/09/2025 19:18

I think it's sad - back in my youth the local pub near home or work was where you met blokes in a much better way than in nightclubs. You would see the same person repeatedly and get to know them gradually.

I met my late DH in the local pub near my workplace. There was about 30 of us from all walks of life who got to know each other there, it was bloody great!

MiniCoopers · 28/09/2025 19:17

God what a miserable lazy written almost deliberately goady thread ….

lifeonmars100 · 28/09/2025 19:17

Glad to see the back of the crappy ones near me but more than happy to patronise the one about 20 mins from my home with good food, live bands, a family-friendly beer garden and a great atmosphere