To want a coffee shop with a no children policy

The Old Barracks Café in Birdhill, Tipp, is child-free, if you're anywhere near?

I think a no children cafe would be lovely, I have 2 young children. this 'absolutely screaming at the top of his lungs.'

That is just not acceptable in a public place. My older son just turned 3. I have removed him from places before. Once in B&Q when he was absolutely losing his rag. A fabulous staff member came over and helped me take the basket off him (in a very helpful/ understanding way) I got him into the car and we went home. No cafe which was next door and had been promised.

In cafe's he has possibly annoyed people with 'general noise' I'm not sure but there is no way I would allow him scream

I have absolutely no objection to the idea of a child free cafe. I think the commercial issue would be that it would be very popular at the weekend but would struggle in the week, when people with little children are often a big percentage of the clientele, and I'm not sure you could persuade parents to go to a cafe in the week that then bans them at peak times. It might work ok if situated somewhere that they'd get a lot of custom from people at work nearby during the week.

Yes please OP, in Ireland ideally (where I am). I don't understand why no-children restaurants get such a hard time, they are a brilliant idea.

How about a finding a pub with a decent coffee machine? There would probably be fewer children.

I mean..... is that an option? I could find a very nice post and leave a few snacks......

And I doubt that its breeder would offer to replace the latte had it landed on their sprog's head.

Because even here there are some responsible parents. Maybe the original post would have been better had it said 'no unsupervised, free-range children', I'm sure that those parents who take care and notice of their children are as fed up as everyone else of the negligent, couldn't care less parents.

Even if you opened a quiet coffee shop you would still get loud people in there.

I was at a spa on Monday where there were “quiet please” and “no phones” signs everywhere, and the staff explain the expectation of low voices etc when you check in. I had to ask two separate groups of people to be quiet over the course of my ‘relaxing’ spa day because they were talking very loudly (one group was doing this actually inside one of the saunas where it is basic etiquette to be completely silent!).

The world is full of loud people who either lack self-awareness or don’t give a damn, I’m afraid.

That is very giraffe-ist of you.

Fair enough about the crocodiles.

Screaming wouldnt bother me usually apart from right now when i have an ear infection.
Its the running around when hot drinks and food are being served. One young child ran right across in front of me while i was carrying a latte. Its bloody dangerous FFS

Apparently.

Definitely. Children are people they are not owned by their parents and they will grow into adults.

A dog will always just be an animal. They are often in cafes with their high pitched barking or slobbering everywhere and yes everyone will come in to say ‘not my dog’ well not everyone’s child either.

No one would want my dog in a cafe that’s for sure he would steal everyone food, nothing would stop him. Then, because he is allergic to everything he would let off a fart so odious they would probably have to evacuate.

Unreservedly, the former. But it wouldn't have to be a majority of coffee shops; just some would be fine.

I agree with you to an extent, OP. The answer, paradoxically, is more child-friendly spaces so parents with small children use those instead. So more "play cafe" type places with a small play area but not costing the earth or requiring pre-booking for a 2 hour session. It's a shame some of the big chains couldn't get in on this and designate some of their cafes "family cafes" with small play zones. Then all the parents with toddlers would congregate there and all those who would prefer not to be around child noise could go elsewhere.

I suspect the issue is viability - soft plays and play cafes aren't very profitable and other cafes don't want to alienate potential customers.

There is a coffee shop close (ish ) to me which has a strict no children policy. It’s there a good while now and seems very popular. When my last DC started preschool DH was off work so it was the first place we went to and it was lovely

And no dogs, crocodiles or giraffes please.

@Amiterriblex3- my advice is to check out if any local coffee shops or cafes do pensioner discounts.

In most towns, the people around in the working day who can keep a coffee shop in business are SAHMs and retired people. You’ll have much more luck with somewhere focussed on the older customer.

Also any cafe with an upstairs seating area. No one’s taking a buggy upstairs so it’s older children only.

Would you prefer to live in a society where the majority of coffee shops have a no child policy or one where there are occasional kids screaming in coffee shops?

Most 2 year olds are capable of understanding “no”, and being removed if they are behaving in a way their parent doesn’t like.

They can always try again when they’re in a non-screaming mood.

Some age-appropriate teaching can take place at the toddler stage, yes.

That's a really strange way to look at it. Agree the trolls and misogynists are a problem, but where on earth has anyone said or even intimated that 'mums can’t have nice things and need to learn to share'? Most cafes and similar establishments will always be family-friendly, and thinking it's reasonable for there to be some childfree spaces too is not child hating. (And, for the record, neither is being childfree by choice.) Tbh I don't even think this conversation would be taking place if more parents would parent more effectively, because their kids would know how to behave in public.

Do you genuinely consider any wish on someone's behalf to be away from children at any time to be 'anti child'? I mean, as a parent, presumably you sometimes want child free time yourself?

I don't understand what you mean by 'It’s literally in the title' btw.

Why do people always bring up dogs on threads about children? They’re not remotely the same. Apparently.

I mean... you can want what you like, but it's unlikely that coffee shop owners will want to exclude such a chunk of potential customers, so I don't think you'll get it.

Aye the toddlers need to learn. Even though they don't have the full capacity to learn. They should learn.

I would RUN to a coffee shop that had a sign saying no children, no iPads and no Peppa. And probably dogs too, unless it's a nice country walk one, where they mostly seem to be trained by normal humans.