To want a coffee shop with a no children policy

Leaving aside children dogs noisy people I do think there’s a market for quiet dining. There’s another thread about hearing aids and noisy environments are really hard for people with impaired hearing. I’m talking here about really careful thought about furnishings where the coffee machine is cutlery there is a lot that could be done and I think there’s a definite market for everyone. One issue is more space per customer but I understand the financial constraints on owners.

If you run a coffee shop, you don't really get to enjoy sitting in a childfree space in the same way as if you could just visit one.

Open one then.

Sorry if I’ve missed it, but how come you’re so proud to have not gone in one? Like how can you have such a strong opinion of you e not been in one? Genuine question not goady, wondering if there’s something I don’t know about them

”Adults Only” is not a new concept and lots of hotels do very well from it. I see literally nothing wrong with the concept of “The Quiet Cafe”, because we can all choose where to spend our own money. My local soft play has quite a nice cafe, but now DC are grown. I’d rather stab myself in the eye than go there. That’s not discrimination, it’s just no longer aimed at me, so I go elsewhere.

Quite fail for @JudgeJ s post.

Dogs are it.

Children are people so the usual descriptive words are appropriate.

Unless we also want to start referring to anyone elderly, disabled, gay or an ethnic minority as it.

There’s hundreds of posts very similar to yours about dogs. You’ll probably find one that will totally empathise with your take on dogs. But let us dog owners enjoy this child free cafe one - we don’t get many…..

Stay at home then

I'd say the diffentiator here is that it's your kids who woke you up

Of course it's the parents fault.

They're supposed to be parenting!!!

A novel concept these days

YANBU

I go to coffee shops to take a break (I have kids) and the last thing I want is little Arabella screaming or watching bluey on the tablet without earphones

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Sounds like a plan, as yesterday kids were running around between people carrying hot drinks the staff had to step in and tell the parents to stop their children or leave, utter madness both parents on their phones.

And 12pm is the best time for a coffee! If you want to go at "normal time" and maybe have a light bite too.

You can't moan at a business for a policy that's a) perfectly legal and b) they don't admit they have though...

They sound rather cunning!

Honestly I believe this the the parents fault. I would take my child outside if they were screaming, it’s not fair to the other customers. Parents should know better.

You sound like me, generally, I love to see children out and about and think that as a society we should be more child-friendly but some days I just want a coffee in peace and quiet and that includes not hearing adults bellowing away on their phones

People make out its parents v. non parents but actually there’s nothing worse than paying for a babysitter, going out for dinner and there’s noisy children on the next table.

There’s a cafe like that here in town as well. Learnt that the hard way! I would rather it was explicit to be honest rather than realising it’s not a good fit once you’ve already sat down and tried to order.

I would prefer a no dogs policy. I can't find one anymore where dogs are not allowed even small coffee shops seem to allow them. Last time I went to a small independent the dog walking past with its owner jumped up and tried to take something from my table.
I would much prefer to have noisy children

The title… it’s called MUMSnet.

Yes I appreciate all of this and parented my dd to behave well in cafes and restaurants at all times BUT I still think the wording of the OP was an odd choice to post on a forum that is primarily a parenting forum! It feels deliberately goady… but maybe I just misinterpreted it as so many people are assuming I’m a bad parent to call out the post!

I don’t necessarily say a child free cafe is necessary, but I’d like to see cafe owners actually confront the situation by telling customers to stop their children screaming, or they need to leave, instead of leaving it to disturb the rest of their customers. I went with a friend and her young son to see the Minecraft movie at our local cinema in the summer. There were a group of women with their young children, looked to be preschool and maybe reception aged children, who were screaming and distracting. A couple of people asked if they could keep their children quiet, but were ignored. My friend went into the foyer and asked one of the older members of staff if they could do something. Staff member came in, appeared to have a quiet word with the parents. Some raised voices, then five minutes later they filed out to applause from some people. It just needs someone to warn people that the behaviour of their child is unacceptable, and if it continues they need to exit the cafe.

6.30 ?! That's a lie in!! My kids woke me up at 1am, 3am and 5am!!
perhaps you could move to a detached property if neighbours annoy you? I got woken up by my neighbour who leaves for work at 4am! Might do a post asking to ban shift workers!

I have a 2 year old, I take her to coffee shops all the time. BUT. If she ever screamed like the children you're describing then we'd be leaving straight away. I always ask for my order in a takeout cup too just to make the getaway as quick as possible. I don't think it's a child free cafe you're after, I think it's parents who have consideration for everyone else around them.

Unfortunately for folks who want childfree spaces, lots of the people who are out spending money in the daytime are people with kids.

Our two local pubs decided on a split strategy - one filled in their fish pond, installed a play area, got a cracking kids menu and went full on family pub.

The other went no kids. Three months down the line they changed it to 'no kids after 5pm or weekends'. Six months down the line it's "two kids eat free with each adult meal before 7pm" and they are begging people to come in.