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To want a coffee shop with a no children policy

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Amiterriblex3 · 28/09/2025 11:51

In a coffee shop and have to listen to a bunch of 2 year old screaming, absolutely screaming at the top of his lungs. Their mothers might be immune to such noise but I am not. I would be embarrassed if my child screamed like that

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Winfield · 29/09/2025 18:56

I always took my kids outside if they screamed, because I didn’t think it was fair to impose them on others !

having said that there’s lots of child friendly that you can take your toddlers to, plus the kids wouldn’t be bored !

Ap42 · 29/09/2025 18:46

I hear you. I have 2 children of my own and whilst shopping today there was a toddler screaming at the top of his/her lungs. As much as I sympathise with the parent, it really did get on my tits! The noise was horrendous and went on for way too long.

Dancingsquirrels · 29/09/2025 18:38

XenoBitch · 29/09/2025 18:36

I have never seen a dog pee in a cafe or pub. However, I have seen parents change nappies on tables, and one time saw a mum get her small child to pull down their trousers/pants and use a potty right in the middle of a cafe.

That's gross too!

XenoBitch · 29/09/2025 18:36

Dancingsquirrels · 29/09/2025 18:32

I've seen a dog peeing under the table in a pub. Then the waiter patted the dog and continued making sandwiches, without washing her hands. Gross. And I'm scared of dogs too 🐕

Entirely different from children

I have never seen a dog pee in a cafe or pub. However, I have seen parents change nappies on tables, and one time saw a mum get her small child to pull down their trousers/pants and use a potty right in the middle of a cafe.

Dancingsquirrels · 29/09/2025 18:32

Onleemoi · 28/09/2025 14:23

Why do people always bring up dogs on threads about children? They’re not remotely the same. Apparently.

I've seen a dog peeing under the table in a pub. Then the waiter patted the dog and continued making sandwiches, without washing her hands. Gross. And I'm scared of dogs too 🐕

Entirely different from children

StressedOutButProudMama · 29/09/2025 18:32

Amiterriblex3 · 28/09/2025 11:51

In a coffee shop and have to listen to a bunch of 2 year old screaming, absolutely screaming at the top of his lungs. Their mothers might be immune to such noise but I am not. I would be embarrassed if my child screamed like that

Then you need the Old Barracks Coffee Shop in Ireland.

cornflakecrunchie · 29/09/2025 18:30

Okaaay, will share one of my fave places, but don't all rush at once & spoil it..
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ApplebyArrows · 29/09/2025 18:20

Never see any kids at the coffee shops in my town; perhaps I go at the wrong times of day.

freakingscared · 29/09/2025 18:14

It’s called a coffee machine at your own home .

Judge Judy Eye Roll GIF
sumayyah · 29/09/2025 18:09

I've been to cafes that had two rooms to it.
The main area with the counter and a smaller area with door labelled quiet zones

If this were more widespread it would sort the problem of keeping wider clientele while giving an area for those who struggle with noise

ThatRubyRaven · 29/09/2025 18:01

ThisUsernameIsNowTaken · 28/09/2025 11:54

What about people who talk really loudly, chew with their mouth open, cackle constantly?

All less annoying than children screaming, which goes right through my nervous system.

namestevalian · 29/09/2025 17:52

Agree - no kids venues please !!

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 29/09/2025 11:26

pontipinemum · 28/09/2025 15:00

@MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned my boys have just turned 3 and 1. I really wouldn't take it personally. But maybe that is because if I ever had the chance it would be nice to meet a friend alone in a child free zone that isn't a pub.

I wouldn't take it personally as a parent of small children - and I would also happily go to a child-free cafe with a friend at the weekend. But what I wouldn't do is take my kids in the week to a cafe that doesn't allow kids at the weekend - not because I'd be offended, but because it would make me feel that children weren't actually wanted at all. Which is fine, but I think would be a problem for most cafes to lose a big section of the much more limited mid-week customers. Obviously there are adults without children who want to go a cafe during the week but in many places not enough. I think in most areas a child-free cafe would do really well at the weekend but would struggle in the week. As I said, it might be different if they're in a location that would get a lot of custom from nearby workers in the week - though then people will almost inevitably start to use it for meetings/working (including phone calls), which most people find equally annoying in a different way!

TotallyUnapologeticOmnivore · 29/09/2025 11:09

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 28/09/2025 14:28

And no dogs, crocodiles or giraffes please.

Oh please, couldn't we have just one giraffe?

PollyBell · 29/09/2025 09:52

coxesorangepippin · 28/09/2025 16:24

YANBU

I go to coffee shops to take a break (I have kids) and the last thing I want is little Arabella screaming or watching bluey on the tablet without earphones

^^

Yes, there are 2 reasons I want a child free cafe is one i have a child and I have never thought the whole world revolves around my should and they should be allowed everywhere same with anyone's child

PrawnPringles · 29/09/2025 08:50

In that case can we also have a coffee shop with

  • NO teenagers (the loud ones are more annoying that noisy small children IMO)
  • No phone calls
  • No anyone with a loud voice
  • No one with a certain accent…

there are lots of irritating people in the world but they do actually have the right to exist in public

Also, lots of places need as many customers as possible to stay open with the price of commercial rent

strictlynopolitics · 29/09/2025 08:23

Lifestooshort71 · 29/09/2025 07:25

Slight derail ....we've had a cat cafe open near us which sounds lovely! I'm hoping someone might treat us all for Christmas (£15 each for an hr at weekends - coffees etc, extra). I live in a flat and miss having cats 🐈 😢. Back to the thread, noisy children should be removed if they're disruptive and some cafes advertise as being welcoming to prams and children so families do have a choice (and I'd know to avoid - everyone happy 😊).

Cat cafes are lovely, I'd just want to check their welfare policy, that the cats get days off and have quiet places, etc. They need tighter laws than humans before I would visit!
There's a lovely one in Liverpool that seems to follow the cat laws, I hope it does!

Lifestooshort71 · 29/09/2025 07:25

Slight derail ....we've had a cat cafe open near us which sounds lovely! I'm hoping someone might treat us all for Christmas (£15 each for an hr at weekends - coffees etc, extra). I live in a flat and miss having cats 🐈 😢. Back to the thread, noisy children should be removed if they're disruptive and some cafes advertise as being welcoming to prams and children so families do have a choice (and I'd know to avoid - everyone happy 😊).

CJsGoldfish · 28/09/2025 22:45

Iamthemoom · 28/09/2025 13:58

I’ve been here for years. It’s literally in the title! I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one who finds it really goady posting anti child posts on a parenting forum. But sure, Mumsnet isn’t just for mums anymore. These days it’s also for trolls, misogynists and apparently people who hate children, because us mums can’t have nice things and need to learn to share!

I'd say the only people who find a post like this to be goady and anti-child are the ones with the "they're just being toddlers" which is a bit cringy because you know that leads to things like "oh, boys will be boys' Anything to excuse lax parenting under the guise of 'letting them be babies/toddlers/preschoolers/children.

It's like "waaaaah, you hate my child, just because he/she makes some noise. It's natural for toddlers to scream,we clearly love our children more because we let them get it alllllll out".

A child free cafe takes nothing away from you or YOUR child at all. It's not like there aren't another couple 'over there'

I think its' more 'anti-child' to allow the behaviour those wishing for child free cafes are forced to endure. You'll forgo any kind of parenting to enjoy your own coffee/tea break and foist the behaviour on everyone else to do so. Meanwhile, child learns nothing about how to behave. Unfair to child as much as to patrons. Not going to make them anyones fave to be around 🤷‍♀️

I do not hate children, have a bunch of my own. They behaved when out, or we left. I was not going to reward MY children but foisting them on others who should not have to put up with misbehaving in what should be a quiet, enjoyable setting.
Also not one of those mums who have to spend every second with their children and make it my lifes work to 'let them be who they are'. Code for: 'discipline is not the way I parent'

XenoBitch · 28/09/2025 20:17

Ooh, I would love this. Even better would be a quiet cafe because adults can be noisy too.

strictlynopolitics · 28/09/2025 20:16

applegingermint · 28/09/2025 20:07

But equally, if no one can make it financially viable to run a child free cafe, or wants to, then you can hardly demand that they exist. Be the change you wish to see in the world and all that.

OP is not demanding they exist, I think she just wants to go to one.
And I still think that popping out for a childfree coffee now and then is vastly different from slogging away working in one.

Interestingly, when I googled child-free cafes, the only one I could find (easily) was the one in Tipperary mentioned above!

applegingermint · 28/09/2025 20:07

strictlynopolitics · 28/09/2025 18:57

If you run a coffee shop, you don't really get to enjoy sitting in a childfree space in the same way as if you could just visit one.

But equally, if no one can make it financially viable to run a child free cafe, or wants to, then you can hardly demand that they exist. Be the change you wish to see in the world and all that.

SteakBakesAndHotTakes · 28/09/2025 19:48

KimberleyClark · 28/09/2025 15:06

You don’t get the feeling of being connected to the community and supporting a local business with a coffee machine though.

If you want to be connected to the local community, you need to deal with members of the local community.

Glasgowgal200 · 28/09/2025 19:13

We have a small local community shop and I was in earlier in the week. There were 5 women in: 2 of them at least had buggies and there were about 2/3 toddler's /young children milling about and general getting in the way. I could barely get to the shelves to get the food. I did remark in hopefully jokingly way that it was busy today, the co-ordinator said to 1 of the volunteers not to let anyone else in for the moment, and asked another customer to wait outside for a bit until the others went away. Some other shops are like that as well and they should have a limit on how many buggies/prams are allowed in especially if they are a😔small shop. 😡😡😡😡😡😤😤😤😤

LegoPicnic · 28/09/2025 19:10

Thistooshallpsss · 28/09/2025 19:06

Leaving aside children dogs noisy people I do think there’s a market for quiet dining. There’s another thread about hearing aids and noisy environments are really hard for people with impaired hearing. I’m talking here about really careful thought about furnishings where the coffee machine is cutlery there is a lot that could be done and I think there’s a definite market for everyone. One issue is more space per customer but I understand the financial constraints on owners.

I think one thing that really hasn’t helped is the fashion for very industrial decor in cafes. We are hopefully coming out the other side of it now, but I’ve never been into an industrial style cafe where the acoustics haven’t been appalling.