To want a coffee shop with a no children policy

@Kelly1969 so sorry, that post wasn't meant for you. Incorrect tagging.

My local cat cafe didn't ban anyone, not did it have security on the door. They just respectfully asked people to be quiet for the cats and said they'd be asked to leave if not. Funny thing is, nobody complained because we'll happily show that consideration to our four legged friends, but as this thread proves, we aren't willing to do the same for our fellow humans, including those children and adults who who have sensory issues with noise.
Nobody wants to freak out a cat. Why aren't people equally as concerned about upsetting adults and children with sensory issues around sound, or those with hearing difficulties, etc?

Yeah I’d like to know this, is it just kids noise she doesn’t like.
so she wouldn’t mind me sitting at the next table with my daughter, perhaps playing YouTube loudly on her Tablet, making the shouty obsessive noises she makes, plus the throat clearing and regurgitating noises?
I can take also have loud conversations on my phone, or perhaps listen to some music, but don’t worry, no kids noise coming from my table!!!

Nice to know that posters are perfectly fine with people with SEN being excluded if they can’t cope with loud noises. Nobody seems to care about our lives being made smaller.

Still, as long as the loud people get their own way…

Saying that my youngest is almost 20 so we’d still be able to visit the no kids cafe, I’m sure OP and others like her would find another reason to ban us!
It would be quite funny to sit at the next table, while my daughter goes thru her “shouty” behaviours and regurgitating noises!

I got “yawned” at for saying it was odd to post on MN!
at the end of the day, most cafes are not going to turn away paying customers to suit what is probably the minority!
My daughters have autism, one with LD and is non verbal so we don’t get out much as we worry (far too much) about the attitude of people like the OP being judgmental.
Thats not to say every badly behaved child has SEN but many do, and it’s this kind of thing that isolates people like me even more than we are now.

😂 oh dear, perhaps try a milky drink and cut down on using your phone at bedtime, should help you get more sleep 😴

Well I tried asking my boss today if we could experiment with a quiet hour and got shot down, so it's not only posters here who don't think it would work 🙄
And no, I'm not anti child, we have some delightful young customers, but we also have the ones where you have to grit your teeth until they leave, and it's nwver the kids fault, it's the parents response or lack of that is the issue!

Yawns in all the boards that are nothing to do with children at all.

yawns loudly

I don't think a cafe is the answer; I think the answer is better parenting. Some parents really do let their kids scream their heads off and do nothing. The kids sound as if they're getting hung, drawn, and quartered, real jet-engine decibel stuff, and the parents......do absolutely nothing. And it goes on, and on, and on. No attempt to distract the child, no saying "Shh" - nothing. As for taking them home to teach the child that this behaviour is unacceptable, don't make me laugh.

I truly don't understand it. The child is literally screaming so loud they sound like they're going to tear their vocal cords, and the parent is utterly oblivious.

Any child age 18 months and up knows what "shh" means.

Maybe a coffee shop that has little private booths... like the ones you can get in some karaoke places

I went to a coffee shop and there was an adult speaking loudly on their phone. I want a coffee shop that has a no adults policy, with me being the only exception.

I'd love a child free coffee shop, with signal blockers and no WiFi. I'm really tired of people not giving a shit for how their behaviour (or that of their children) impacts on everyone around them.

I don't dislike children. I dislike parents who subscribe to the ethos of kids will be kids whilst allowing their children to bother people.

Haha yes, so true. That’s me with my coffee alone in my kitchen then 😁

unless you start work really late in the day, a cafe isn’t likely to be packed with kids anyway!

kinda odd to post on Mumsnet!

People shouldn't have to stay at home if they don't want to hear children screaming like banshees in coffee shops. Additional needs etc aside, it shouldn't be happening in the first place.

Sounds wonderful!
If my kids screamed in a cafe when they were little more than once or twice, i would have taken them outside and only taken them back inside when they stopped. Tbh it’s best to take toddlers to the park or soft play cafe.

I know of a place with coffee and no children you can go to OP. It's called your lounge.

I honestly don't understand why so many mums with giant buggies hog cafe tables for ages with screeching small children. Is it some sort of dull romanticisation of maternity leave where you can look back and pretend you had "fun" because you sat in a coffee shop for hours during a workday morning?

Maybe they think Motherland is some sort of aspirational lifestyle programme. 😄

I was wondering this too.

In fact I was wondering where on earth all these posters live where cafes are all full of children and cafes descend into earth shattering insolvency if they move away from welcoming buggies and children and mothers.

Don’t think I've seen kids in my local cafes/restaurants - well, other than Burger King and the all you can eat Chinese where kids ate free (now closed down). A pub did rebrand as family friendly, with a play area and toys and what have you - but it didn't really catch on.

And the comments that cafes are pathetically grateful for the mid week child and buggy business - round my area, that's when the 'WFH' laptop workers are out in force chaining drinking coffee and eating an admirable quantity of cake

I honestly don't understand why so many mums with giant buggies hog cafe tables for ages with screeching small children. Is it some sort of dull romanticisation of maternity leave where you can look back and pretend you had "fun" because you sat in a coffee shop for hours during a workday morning?

I don't think it's that deep... I think they want to sit down and have a coffee indoors, in the warm. Like everyone else who buys a coffee in a cafe to drink in.

I honestly don't understand why so many mums with giant buggies hog cafe tables for ages with screeching small children. Is it some sort of dull romanticisation of maternity leave where you can look back and pretend you had "fun" because you sat in a coffee shop for hours during a workday morning?

A cafe environment is makes no sense for small children because they cannot climb, run, explore or do anything that they instinctively want to do. There are rarely things on the menu for babies and toddlers to eat so it invariably means bringing healthier snacks and drinks from home and making crumbs and a mess with food that don't even belong to the establishment.

And yes, I do have kids. I don't recall ever sitting in a cafe with DD when she was small or meeting mum friends for a lengthy time in one. We would get drinks to go and then go to a nearby park or for a walk with the buggies. Or find children's cafes with dedicated play areas and all other guests are parents. It's not fun either to run after a toddler in a tight space hoping they don't knock down other people's cups or disturb the ones working.

I’ve often thought airlines would make a fortune if they offered a section of the plane which was child free (premium cost).