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Botox & frozen faces

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Expressionless · 27/09/2025 19:55

If you have Botox to the parts of your face that mean you’ve rendered yourself unable to move large part of your face or have very little movement in your eyebrows / around your eyes, does it not bother you that you essentially look frozen and expressionless?

At the end of the day, most of us, would like to reduce fine lines and wrinkles - we live in a world that holds women to ridiculous youth standards - basically we all feel we shouldn’t age and that an ageing face is the worst possible outcome. But at what cost does this come?

Watching almost all TV / films now means any woman over about 25, maybe 30 at a push essentially has a frozen face and quite literally can’t show emotions properly. Most men don’t do it, so it’s definitely a sexist standard.

Women saying they ‘do it for themselves’ - well okay, but only because you’ve been conditioned to find ageing abhorrent.

Why can’t we just be left the fuck alone, to age and have faces that move and show our expressions and feelings. Like we have for 1,000’s of years.

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Poirot1983 · 27/09/2025 21:46

‘basically we all feel we shouldn’t age and that an ageing face is the worst possible outcome.’

Nope, I don’t feel that way and would far rather have wrinkles than Botox. I don’t actually know anyone who does feel that way. Most friends are more interested in good skincare products and makeup. I’m 55.

An ageing face can be very beautiful. I don’t want to look 30, I have been 30. I am very happy to look 55, wrinkles and all.

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Expressionless · 27/09/2025 21:46

AmyDuPlantier · 27/09/2025 21:23

Oh look it’s a Botox-bashing thread how novel.

By the same token OP, why can’t I be left the fuck alone, and not have these high horse threads every single week?

Inserting yourself into the comments when you want to be left alone is a little odd.

I’m not ‘bashing anything beyond the youth standards and conditioning women are held to. If you don’t think that’s a thing…

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LadyContrary · 27/09/2025 21:43

Ooooh look, another women bashing thread started and continued by women. How refreshing.
I hate all the “o look at me, being all superior with my botox free/ make up free/ anything else free face”. So fucking what? Have botox, don’t have botox, have fillers, don’t have fillers, wear make up, don’t wear make up. It doesn’t matter and no explanation is needed for any of those
choices. If women used the energy they use to belittle each other to support each other instead, the world would be a whole different place.

As a side note, I do botox, fillers, make up, acrylic nails and any other treatment I fancy as and when I want and see fit. It doesn’t make me a Barbie-like puppet thoughtlessly fulfilling misogynistic fantasies and nobody needs to feel sorry for me.

Daisymay1000 · 27/09/2025 21:41

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Thisssss!!!

Peachandpassionfruit · 27/09/2025 21:41

I think it’s sad that so many women are so terrified of ageing. That they truly believe the marketing that the worst thing that can happen to a woman is to look their age.

Daisymay1000 · 27/09/2025 21:41

Expressionless · 27/09/2025 19:55

If you have Botox to the parts of your face that mean you’ve rendered yourself unable to move large part of your face or have very little movement in your eyebrows / around your eyes, does it not bother you that you essentially look frozen and expressionless?

At the end of the day, most of us, would like to reduce fine lines and wrinkles - we live in a world that holds women to ridiculous youth standards - basically we all feel we shouldn’t age and that an ageing face is the worst possible outcome. But at what cost does this come?

Watching almost all TV / films now means any woman over about 25, maybe 30 at a push essentially has a frozen face and quite literally can’t show emotions properly. Most men don’t do it, so it’s definitely a sexist standard.

Women saying they ‘do it for themselves’ - well okay, but only because you’ve been conditioned to find ageing abhorrent.

Why can’t we just be left the fuck alone, to age and have faces that move and show our expressions and feelings. Like we have for 1,000’s of years.

People do leave you alone. You’re literally the one writing a post on here about other people’s faces!? Nobody is forcing you to have anything done, same you shouldn’t judge anyone who has.

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Expressionless · 27/09/2025 21:39

arcticpandas · 27/09/2025 21:18

Tbf the wrinkly ass is not on display (I hope!) whereas we all look at people's faces. The OP just said that she thought it sad to not discern expressions on botoxed faces and I agree; it's like a part of our humanity that goes missing.

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You’ve articulated my point much better than I did, thank you.

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Gatekeeper · 27/09/2025 21:36

I never know what women mean when they say botox makes them look "fresher"...to me fresher means looking all glowy after a brisk walk...esp if its a bit nippy.

MessyNDepressy · 27/09/2025 21:33

The frozen look is a choice. I got Botox for the first time a few months ago and the practitioner discussed if I wanted a frozen or more natural look first. I went for a more natural look which won’t last as long and hasn’t eliminated every tiny line, just a few deeper ones. I don’t think it’s noticeable as my mum would’ve loved to call me out if it was but it doesn’t bother me if it is. I wish I could’ve just accepted my forehead lines but I couldn’t!

Pippa12 · 27/09/2025 21:31

I think it would just be best to leave people to it.

These threads feel like they are made to belittle ladies that choose to Botox. The comments are so derogatory and belittling towards them.

What difference does it make to anybody else how they choose to present themselves?

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Expressionless · 27/09/2025 21:31

Lasm · 27/09/2025 20:16

48 and have been having twice yearly Botox for three years…trust me I look 48 but my face is fresher looking and no lines around my forehead or eyes! I’m not trying to not age, like I said trust me I look 48, but it certainly freshens up a tired visage ( speaking for myself)

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But why can’t we have lines at 48 and that be okay? Why do we need to be freshened?

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Expressionless · 27/09/2025 21:30

Mycatissohandsome · 27/09/2025 20:14

I love having botox, at 48 it makes me look fresher. I don't go for the total frozen look though. To be fair though I couldn't give a rats ass what you thought of me. My body, my choice.

Why do you need to look ‘fresher?’ - Or is that just a new word for younger? How do you look un-fresh?

No one is saying it’s not your face / your choice.. That’s obviously the case.

It’s about being conditioned to think that you look ‘un-fresh’ and therefore bad and need fixing.

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AmyDuPlantier · 27/09/2025 21:23

Oh look it’s a Botox-bashing thread how novel.

By the same token OP, why can’t I be left the fuck alone, and not have these high horse threads every single week?

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Expressionless · 27/09/2025 21:23

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Grown ass..

Wrinkly ass..

I beg to differ as the one parroting some half thought silly nonsense here with comments like that.

Plus I’m sure most people using Botox and tweakmente are all telling themselves a version of this🤷🏻‍♀️

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TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 27/09/2025 21:20

I have nothing against people who want to do this to their face
What I am more worried about it that is being seen as normal and expected. Like shaving your armpit hair. Is optional but you are looked down on if you don't do it.

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Expressionless · 27/09/2025 21:18

Reachedtheend · 27/09/2025 20:00

I'm heartily fed up of this trend of so many women looking like clones of each other.
Please bring back individuality and character.

This - exactly.

i look at photos and content from the 80-00’s and ther was a huge array of styles and looks, lots of different hair and make-up. People felt like individuals. Now it’s like all women aspire to have the same hair, same skin, same make-up. Like some sort of ‘identikit female’.

Must Have flawless skin, glossy long hair, large lips, small nose, huge eyes and eyelashes and defined eyebrows (either chunky or slimmer), and absolutely NO wrinkles or lines, no ‘imperfections’ which make you actually look interesting..

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arcticpandas · 27/09/2025 21:18

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Tbf the wrinkly ass is not on display (I hope!) whereas we all look at people's faces. The OP just said that she thought it sad to not discern expressions on botoxed faces and I agree; it's like a part of our humanity that goes missing.

EvieWonderSpaghettiHoops · 27/09/2025 21:16

YANBU OP

I find it odd when I’ve had a glass of wine or two and watch TV / Films with frozen face Botox actors. It’s like watching aliens 👽

Poonu · 27/09/2025 21:14

I find it hilarious that people think people can't tell they've had Botox -+ nothing fresh about it lol however it's 100% their right and.business..

Glistening · 27/09/2025 21:14

I honestly don’t notice the frozen face thing! Even someone like nicole kidman who i know has had loads of work done - to me it still looks like she’s clearly making expressions? Anyone else feel like this?

Agree the normalization of cosmetic procedures isn’t great for women though.

Ilovemychocolate · 27/09/2025 21:11

Imbrocator · 27/09/2025 21:07

There is good evidence to show that Botox, by impairing your ability to mimic other people’s facial expressions and to produce your own, also has an impact on your ability to empathise with others and interpret other people’s facial expressions correctly.

Call me old fashioned, but the human face is most beautiful in motion and expression. Chasing youth is an inherently unattractive quality. If you’re happy, genuine and kind, people will find you more beautiful than someone who has perfect features but a face like a waxwork.

Hilarious 😆

montston · 27/09/2025 21:09

I don't really get it. But whatever. Each to their own and all that. I’m unbothered by ageing, it’s normal.

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Girl, it sounds like you are talking out of your own “wrinkly ass”!

Imbrocator · 27/09/2025 21:07

There is good evidence to show that Botox, by impairing your ability to mimic other people’s facial expressions and to produce your own, also has an impact on your ability to empathise with others and interpret other people’s facial expressions correctly.

Call me old fashioned, but the human face is most beautiful in motion and expression. Chasing youth is an inherently unattractive quality. If you’re happy, genuine and kind, people will find you more beautiful than someone who has perfect features but a face like a waxwork.

Throwawayagain1234 · 27/09/2025 20:48

I can still raise a single sardonic eyebrow and have an expressive face. The people you notice having had 'work done' have had bad work done. The good stuff should never show.

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