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Can we have ages instead of school years?

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LadyoftheMercians · 26/09/2025 22:58

I have no idea how old a year 11 child is? And therefore no clue on of they should be allowed a phone in their room overnight.

Inspired by a thread, not necessarily a TAAT

OP posts:
pizzaHeart · 28/09/2025 10:14

OchonAgusOchonOh · 26/09/2025 23:21

I really struggle to see how they could be that different.

In year 7 child just moved to a new school, travel is usually longer and often more complicated e.g village bus, they start getting homework, parents involvement in the school life is different. In year 6 they are staying at the known setting with people they know for quite a while, in the same classroom all day, usually closer to home and parents are more involved.

ilovepixie · 27/09/2025 14:40

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 27/09/2025 01:58

I've never seen P1 or S1 mentioned other than in Scotsnet.

P1 is used in Northern Ireland. P stands for primary so P1, P2,P3 and so on up to the last year of primary school P7

SellFridges · 27/09/2025 14:27

I think it makes a lot of sense. So much of children’s experience is shaped by school. A 15 and 16 year old in year 11 are likely to be at similar levels of maturity based on their lived experiences. A 15 year old in year 10 and a 15 year old in year 11 are less likely to be so in my experience.

BashfulClam · 27/09/2025 14:26

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 26/09/2025 23:03

If you have no experience of a child in, say Year 11, then simply ignore that post and just reply to topics that are relevant to you.

Or just figure it out. It's a pretty easy code to crack.

But they might have a child a similar age is a different country. I. Scotland I don’t know if that is S3 or S4. Think it might be S4 but see the confusion. If a Scottish poster said S3 would you know age they were?

cygnusgenie · 27/09/2025 14:22

onpills4godsake · 27/09/2025 08:52

School years are easier to define development than birthdays imho

So if I said that I was worried about leaving my son in fifth year alone over night, you would know what I meant, and have advice?

Needmorelego · 27/09/2025 14:18

What's even more fun is when someone mentions the English 3 tier school system and while the year numbers are the same a Year 7 in middle school is going to be likely having a different educational experience to a Year 7 in a 2000 pupil secondary.
Totally blows people's minds 😂

Swiftie1878 · 27/09/2025 14:16

LadyoftheMercians · 26/09/2025 22:58

I have no idea how old a year 11 child is? And therefore no clue on of they should be allowed a phone in their room overnight.

Inspired by a thread, not necessarily a TAAT

Just add 5 to the school year => age child turns in that academic year.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 27/09/2025 14:15

I remember reading a thread started by a woman who said that her son was 60 months old, or something like that.
It took me a moment to make sense of it!

bumbaloo · 27/09/2025 14:12

onpills4godsake · 27/09/2025 08:52

School years are easier to define development than birthdays imho

Not if you are in any country other than England and Wales and I’m assuming NI. Otherwise it’s just babble

MN is global even if majority are British. And Scots don’t use the same system anyway

bumbaloo · 27/09/2025 14:09

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 26/09/2025 23:03

If you have no experience of a child in, say Year 11, then simply ignore that post and just reply to topics that are relevant to you.

Or just figure it out. It's a pretty easy code to crack.

I have had dc go through school. I still have to count backwards. It’s annoying

user1476613140 · 27/09/2025 10:21

Tastaturen · 27/09/2025 07:39

Or people could just type a couple of extra digits on their posts.

Please stop that's just too much like...common sense!😱🤣

Butterflybum · 27/09/2025 09:43

I just ask. It’s only an issue if you make it one.

Cottagecheeseisnotcheese · 27/09/2025 09:32

To use Y11or13 when speaking a out English exams is normal, when speaking about Scottish exams using S4/5/6 is normal but so is using exams rather than year so saying my DD is doing highers rather than S5.
Overall years don't quite equate as Scotland is 13 years of school Primary (P) 1-7 and secondary (S)1-6 while in England there are 14 years including YR but due to different starting ages, like school year starts mid august but the youngest will be 4.5 not 4 and with a right to defer . As cut off is 28th February not 31st August.

It depends on topic so anything education related using school year works but for general questions like phone use getting bus, understanding right/wrong, empathy, development age is better
Eg is it ok for my 9 year old to get the bus outside our house and travel two miles and get off at Grandma's house it doesn't matter whether they are Y5/6 P5 4th grade or whatever to answer question

AmpleLilacQuail · 27/09/2025 09:05

Needmorelego · 27/09/2025 08:20

No not new.
I just find the abbreviations a bit naff.
Dthis and Dthat.
All so daft IMHO 😂

Agree and it can be so confusing. Like DS could be son or sister, DF could be father or friend!? Also I love when people write DDog or DCat 😂

But back to the OP, I agree the school year thing is annoying especially for those of us not in England and who don’t have kids.

RampantIvy · 27/09/2025 08:55

SpudsAndCarrots · 26/09/2025 23:11

I think it's more helpful really. An 11 year old in year 6 and year 7 are completely different in terms of maturity.

I think stating the year group and the age is probably more useful.

Summer born DD took 2 GCSEs at 14 (because this was the way her school did it, not because she is a genius), 8 GCSEs at 15, and A levels at 17.

onpills4godsake · 27/09/2025 08:52

School years are easier to define development than birthdays imho

OchonAgusOchonOh · 27/09/2025 08:47

Pricelessadvice · 27/09/2025 06:50

Add 4 or 5 and you’ll work it out (the summer born ones would be 4 years added, the older ones 5).
I am a summer holiday baby so I was almost a year behind some of my classmates. In year 11 I had just turned 15, whereas some kids were turning 16 as soon as we went back to school.

So age would be a lot more relevant than class unless it's related to education.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 27/09/2025 08:44

DiscoBeat · 27/09/2025 06:46

The year is very relevant over the age if you are talking about their education in any way. It's easy to work it out anyway!

Sure. But loads of posts use school year for topics that have nothing to do with education.

Needmorelego · 27/09/2025 08:20

cinnamongirl123 · 27/09/2025 07:46

Are you new here? That’s just not how MN works. MN uses abbreviations. You can’t expect the whole of MN to change.
And saying “age 15” does not provide the relevant context - for example, Year 11 in England involves heavy-duty exams, whereas the general equivalent in say North America, Grade 11, may not, so what the 15yos are going through in different countries is very different and very relevant.

No not new.
I just find the abbreviations a bit naff.
Dthis and Dthat.
All so daft IMHO 😂

Dontcallmescarface · 27/09/2025 08:01

Using school years rather than ages muddies the water somewhat. A "year 1" child could be either just turned 5 or about to turn 6 so any advice would be age depending and 9 times out of 10 the OP states the age in an update, so why not just put it in their 1st post? It would save endless posts of "what age are they OP"

AnOldCynic · 27/09/2025 07:59

ShamrockShenanigans · 26/09/2025 23:07

You can either work it out on your fingers or just use Google 🤷‍♂️

I have had DC go through school and I still work it out on my fingers 😂

Tastaturen · 27/09/2025 07:52

brunettemic · 27/09/2025 07:39

If you don’t know then it’s probably not relevant to you.

That's a silly response. Children can be the same age all over the world, and someone not in the English system may have amazing experience of a similarly aged child.

Reachedtheend · 27/09/2025 07:50

Laserwho · 27/09/2025 07:42

If it's a school related post I would need to know the school year rather than age.

But what is the big issue about supplying BOTH bits of information?
Why are some posters so determind NOT to give the age as well as the school year?

The determination not to supply age is coming over as really weird.

cinnamongirl123 · 27/09/2025 07:46

Needmorelego · 27/09/2025 06:06

Mumsnet is like spy code sometimes.
"My DS in Year 11"....why can't people just write "My son age 15" ?

Are you new here? That’s just not how MN works. MN uses abbreviations. You can’t expect the whole of MN to change.
And saying “age 15” does not provide the relevant context - for example, Year 11 in England involves heavy-duty exams, whereas the general equivalent in say North America, Grade 11, may not, so what the 15yos are going through in different countries is very different and very relevant.

Laserwho · 27/09/2025 07:42

If it's a school related post I would need to know the school year rather than age.

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