Page 12 | AIBU to think that Digital ID will not stop illegal immigration, and nor is it a good idea?

Westfacing · 2025-09-25T15:08:29+00:00

How will this prevent boat crossings?

TorturedPoetDepartment · 25/09/2025 17:16

youalright · 25/09/2025 17:14

Im going to sell mine. Shopping trip 🛍

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Carry on, no one's checking! 😂

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 25/09/2025 17:16

Elizabethandfour · 25/09/2025 16:48

Tony Blair and Peter Thiel will be the beneficiaries. They will own your data.

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Yes Tony has been harping about it for awhile. Why??
I didnt vote Labour for this reason.

imagine Labour bring in ID cards ready for a reform government?!

MMAMPWGHAP · 25/09/2025 17:15

It might mean that stuff that is universally free can be made chargeable to those without UK id. Eg Museums and galleries.

RNApolymerase · 25/09/2025 17:15

Old people are going to struggle with this. My mum, for example - she doesn't drive, she doesn't have a passport and her phone is definitely not smart. She doesn't have an email address either, because no computer.
Will a bus pass do?

youalright · 25/09/2025 17:14

TorturedPoetDepartment · 25/09/2025 17:12

This is what I was thinking! The amount of times that the person who turns up isn't the driver it is showing on Deliveroo/Uber/Justeat - it's very easy for someone to have 'legal' work status and sign up then sell off their login details so absolutely anyone can use them. Digital I.D. won't solve any of that!

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Im going to sell mine. Shopping trip 🛍

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 25/09/2025 17:14

youalright · 25/09/2025 17:12

That would be brilliant and check their sexual health history and criminal record

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Yep. Relationship history. How many children and if they paid child maintenance.

This idea could expand massively. No one will get away with anything ever!

youalright · 25/09/2025 17:13

TheCatsTongue · 25/09/2025 17:09

No, it won't

You turn up at A&E and they do not check ID (for obvious reasons), they cannot deny treatment.

The lack of ID isn't the pull for migrants, it's all the handouts (that no one wants to limit).

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I understand people won't be refused emergency treatment but iv seen migrants filling out paperwork in a&e before

Hardhaton1 · 25/09/2025 17:13

Its definitely coming

TorturedPoetDepartment · 25/09/2025 17:12

DervlaGlass · 25/09/2025 16:44

Where I live there's a visible problem with illegal deliveroo workers (certainly hundreds, probably thousands of them) and a huge shanty village site in a central location that border force and the police don't want to touch despite fire setting and pollution problems.

There's no question about their status. The IDs would change nothing. It's just going to make life a bit more miserable for everyone. If a Prime Minister really wanted to stop what they describe as the problem they'd legislate (primary legislation so it can't be judicially reviewed away) to require deportation prior to accessing immigration tribunals, remove legal aid and possibly put a legal duty on the police and local authorities to act. But they won't because they don't actually want to do anything that might be effective because they're against doing so but don't have the courage to say so and want to pander to the people for whom it's a priority.

Tldr ofc they won't work.

This is what I was thinking! The amount of times that the person who turns up isn't the driver it is showing on Deliveroo/Uber/Justeat - it's very easy for someone to have 'legal' work status and sign up then sell off their login details so absolutely anyone can use them. Digital I.D. won't solve any of that!

youalright · 25/09/2025 17:12

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 25/09/2025 17:09

It would have to include a tracker as well as digital information.

Maybe we could include relationship status to stop all the cheating bastards. I’ll scan you at the start of the date.

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That would be brilliant and check their sexual health history and criminal record

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 25/09/2025 17:12

Of course it won't stop illegal immigration. Which is why it still exists in countries with mandatory ID systems.

People will work illegally in roles where the employer/person buying the service doesn't give a shit, just as they do now, and they'll get stolen or bought just as passports and driving licences do. It's not going to do the things people hope it will.

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 25/09/2025 17:11

caringcarer · 25/09/2025 17:07

It will stop illegals accessing the NHS and other services. It will be one less pull factors.

You have to enter the country to claim asylum. Therefore not illegal.

So it will stop all the expats returning to get their health care done on the nhs before returning back to Spain or Australia?

TheCatsTongue · 25/09/2025 17:09

caringcarer · 25/09/2025 17:07

It will stop illegals accessing the NHS and other services. It will be one less pull factors.

No, it won't

You turn up at A&E and they do not check ID (for obvious reasons), they cannot deny treatment.

The lack of ID isn't the pull for migrants, it's all the handouts (that no one wants to limit).

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 25/09/2025 17:09

youalright · 25/09/2025 17:06

I'd love that wouldn't have to worry about being kidnapped

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It would have to include a tracker as well as digital information.

Maybe we could include relationship status to stop all the cheating bastards. I’ll scan you at the start of the date.

Greenwitchart · 25/09/2025 17:08

I already have a British passport which is used to verify my ID so what is the point of having another card? Beyond having to pay more money to the government? Another stupid idea from Starmer.

caringcarer · 25/09/2025 17:07

It will stop illegals accessing the NHS and other services. It will be one less pull factors.

Pharazon · 25/09/2025 17:06

The fact that the UK is one of very few countries in Europe with no ID card system (either mandatory or optional) is often cited as a major pull factor for economic migrants.

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 25/09/2025 17:06

millymollymoomoo · 25/09/2025 17:02

People will start to have issues when Covid style restrictions come in, and govt can start restricting access to public life

This too. Can see people being barred if they don’t have all the vaccines including childhood ones.

youalright · 25/09/2025 17:06

JoshLymanSwagger · 25/09/2025 17:01

Maybe we should be chipped like my cats?😹

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I'd love that wouldn't have to worry about being kidnapped

Tryingtokeepgoing · 25/09/2025 17:05

Westfacing · 25/09/2025 16:55

As an aside, it wasn't the Americans - it was Gerry Adams of the Provisional IRA who coined the term 'Brits'.

I'm old enough to remember this!

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Ah I didn’t know that. Sorry! But even more reason not call it that

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 25/09/2025 17:03

JoshLymanSwagger · 25/09/2025 17:01

Maybe we should be chipped like my cats?😹

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Yep or that. Faster too than a tat.

Aaron95 · 25/09/2025 17:03

tartyflette · 25/09/2025 17:01

Can't be long now...
And some people will welcome that too.

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Why stop there. Chip everyone the way we do cats and dogs.

Aaron95 · 25/09/2025 17:02

Dr13Hadley · 25/09/2025 16:26

Are these IDs going to be linked to bank accounts does anyone know?

If you think the government is capable of creating an IT system that interfaces with the system of every bank in the country you must be the most optimistic person in the world.

millymollymoomoo · 25/09/2025 17:02

People will start to have issues when Covid style restrictions come in, and govt can start restricting access to public life

JoshLymanSwagger · 25/09/2025 17:01

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 25/09/2025 16:59

Fuck it why don’t we barcode everyone at birth?

Maybe we should be chipped like my cats?😹