To say school went too far suspending him for a vape

OP, you seem to have a very low bar for behaviour - if he isn't "smashing windows" is it ok?
When you go into school for the readmittance meeting, tell the pastoral head/year manager that you will support the school's behaviour policy and work with your son on the low level disruption as well. They may have a space for 1-2-1 support, but it's difficult with budgets. He needs to be on a better path, and will need to meet targets. Ask what support they can put in place, and work on his behaviour at home.

I didnt say healthy I said healthier like I would say cannabis is healthier then heroin

They aren’t healthy, but they are far less dangerous than cigarettes.

Both can be harmful to health. One is treated like class A drugs due to a moral panic. The other can be consumed as much as teens want.

I just think everyone is being dramatic about vaping its a massive improvement from years ago when kids where smoking at school.

My child would not be smoking or vaping in my home or infront of me until they was an adult

Please make a coherent argument and stop rage baiting.

We are talking about vaping that is not allowed per the school policy

Start a new thread about obesity if you want to.

OMG vapes are NOT healthy!

Your absolutely right obesity is a lot more dangerous then vaping

It doesn’t sound like this was an isolated incident from an otherwise well behaved child so it doesn’t surprise me. They all need a break from him and that’s fair enough.

no chance the Xbox or phone would be around for my kids in this scenario. He can spend his time catching up and writing a report on the dangers of vaping.

appreciate kids have always found ways to push back on authority but this specific rule makes sense to me. Vaping is addictive and insanely bad for children and it’s contagious - once one child does it they all follow along. I’d be super angry with my child for this.

Chocolate isn't actually unhealthy unless eaten to excess and then it's the sugar that is the problem. Vapes, especially cheap illegal ones that children can easily get hold of, are full of god knows what chemicals. We don't know the full extent of the harm they can do.

Every kid is different all my kids have completely different personality types. Every parent tells their kids the dangers of drugs, alcohol, smoking, unprotected sex, violence, knives etc. You have done no different then every other parent. The difference is the kid some kids will listen some will not some will be easily led some will not. It has very little to do with parenting

Kids who are doing a few one of things like smashing windows disrupts other children’s education than those who are cheeky and mess around in class.

@BeachLife2 the Vape was found in class. Not on the way home from school.

Vapes are against the school policy that is presumably documented and shared with parents when they sign up for that school.

Comparing vapes with chocolate is ridiculous.

Chocolate is nothing like vaping!
Good god this discussion.

This!! OP, I’ve got 2 DSs older than yours. You need to get tough right now. If mine had done this all hell would break loose. He’s taking the proverbial in school, got behind in lessons and is vaping.

So what you need to do is remove the X box and phone for a week and make sure he has no money. He needs to use the three days to catch up on school work.

What you should not be doing is sympathising with him and complaining about school rules.

And don’t think that’s tough!! Tough is what kids my age got, decades ago. Caning at school and probably similar at home.

We’ve rightly moved away from that, but letting a teen in trouble at school game for a few days is a complete joke.

I don’t think anyone would encourage teens to vape. The point is the response here is totally disproportionate.

Chocolate is unhealthy but no one would suggest excluding children for eating them on the way home from school.

OP in your shoes I would contact the school and discuss the matter with them, find out exactly how your son is being perceived by his teachers including his form tutor as that will give your a clearer picture, as it easy for any child to protest their innocence to a parent when the incident has occurred at school.
You could also ask the school if homework / classwork can be set for your son to complete whilst he is suspended, follow through with that with him if you are at home when he is off school, so that he is at least trying to keep busy and trying to learn.
You mentioned that he is already behind, why not look into that further with the school, is there a specific reason why or a particular lesson he is struggling with.
Any help you can get for him has got to be a positive thing.
Vaping that really needs to be knocked on the head, as hard as it may be for you to implement that and for him to stop doing it, long term if he continues will only cause health issues. Good luck and hopefully he will get the help he needs and this will be a one-off.

These kids are the reason other kids are not getting taught in school because the teachers spend so much time having to discipline them.. so unfair

"already told him off and taken it off him when I found it before so it feels like he’s getting punished twice."

once for when you found it the first time and took it off him, Second time for taking it to school. Sounds fair to me.

I have different standards, clearly.
Let your kid vape as much as he wants at home, I don't care. Not at school.

What are you talking about the kids today vaping are the newer generation of the kids from the past generations smoking its just a healthier version of smoking.

Yep. Plus helping them to have delayed gratification and self control, modelling good behaviour for them and having firm boundaries.

'I’m knackered '

You want to try working

Hopefully she will feel the same
I have already raised a 28 year old whos never tried smoking ,vaping or drugs . Ive taught them from a young age and all i can hope for is that they listen. The eldest did and has just had her own baby last week so i hope she does the same with her child once shes old enough
All you can do is offer advice, facts and show them the right direction in life