AIBU to think this man should have got a prison sentence for assault with a knife against someone who offended his religion?

I think a bit of basic respect for other folks' religions would be helpful.

So would saying please and thank you.

But I don't want a law for them.

The book burner was Kurdish/ Armenian. He may have had a solid grievance regarding Islam. I don’t hold with book burning but he didn’t harm anyone.
The knife wielder should 100% be in jail.

I think a bit of basic respect for other folks' religions would be helpful. And I'm a hardcore atheist. If I had been present on the day, I would absolutely have told book burning man to stop being so pathetic . And probably been lamped for it, but hey.

If it is within sentencing guidelines then any appeal will be a waste of time.

He didn't stab or injure the other chap so GBH or ABH charges are out of the question. Common assault is the highest level he can be charged with.

The other charge does not attract a prison sentence at all as he did not actually stab anyone.

https://sentencingcouncil.org.uk/resources/common-offences/assault/

https://sentencingcouncil.org.uk/guidelines/bladed-articles-and-offensive-weapons-having-in-a-public-place/

Apparently, "good character" "no previous" etc etc

I know basic research isn't really a thing, however I found that the sentencing guidelines for "possession of a bladed article" are from 3 months to 2 years 6 months custody.

Which is a fucking joke.

Completely agree

YANBU.

We’re in danger of introducing blasphemy laws by the back door. This sentence should be appealed.

Whatever the Quaran burner was up to, he wasn't waving a fucking knife around because of some supposed insult to a sky fairy.

We are talking about a violent criminal who returned home to find a weapon that could easily have killed several people before he was stopped (especially it those people were young children) and who has been allowed to continue walking the streets.

Fuck policing twitter. I want anyone - anyone at all - who waves a weapon around in public to be either locked up, or shot on sight if it's too hard to taser them.

Yes, it is that simple. Most up us appear to have got this far in life without needing to wave a gun or a knife or a baseball bat around in public.

I believe so or it might have been another incident

It's basically giving a free pass to any Muslim who feels Islam had been insulted to respond violently. Two tier justice.

Didnt the guy who was beaten up get charged with a hate crime? I thought I read that in another news article

Why? If its his book he can piss on the ashes if he wants

"Being rude" is not illegal.

And I fucking hope it never fucking is.

I'm not really one for book burning. but if others want to - within laws around property and danger to others - why shouldn't they ?

Same for flags too.

That's the sort of strongly spoken to I mean. Knife guy should absolutely have been jailed.

For being unnecessarily rude. Book burning is never about freedom. It's like defacing buildings with graffiti. Utterly shitty behaviour, no matter who is doing it or why. Want to burn a Quran or Bible or Torah? Build a bonfire in your back garden and have at it.

I mean - I’m not surprised with what’s happening in the UK now - are you?

We will see...

RTFT.

How easily people believe this trite misinformation.

Sadly knife welders of all sexes and races are walking free from our courts.

Well next time a woman does that, she'll get let off too.

Not really - as this very thread shows. You should have posted earlier to avoid looking a bit silly.

Yes. I posted an example of an Oxford medical student who walked free but this is worse because in addition to being a weak response to a violent attack, it's also basically saying if you are offended you aren't as responsible.

I have seen certain sections of the internet suggest the conflation of actual harm and hurt feelings is the doings of feminism. But actually it's something that serves (bad) men more since they are more likely to respond to offence with physical aggression. From "my teacher was a bitch so I had to throw the chair" to "woman rejects man. Gets what's coming to her" all the way up to this. It's hard being a teenage boy/young man and controlling your emotions for example. The answer isn't to just lash out all the time..it's hard seeing someone attacking your faith. Its unacceptable to physically attack them. But his own disordered thinking will have been justified by the judges own words.

The book burner was also charged and found guilty in July of a "religiously aggravated public order offence" and fined

www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce9v4e0z9r8o

As for the knife wielder, as I understand it from reports having been offended initially he went into his accomodation, found the bread knife, then came back out swinging....I'd say he had the chance to disengage and calm down rather than go out a second time, so yes, I think his sentence is lenient.

Two tier Keir

It is pathetic, intolerant and rude , IMO, but that doesn’t make it illegal or a matter for the state, or grounds for censorship or having blasphemy laws.

Maybe starting fires in a public place is an offence?

If his nearest and dearest want to tell him he is a knob, fair dos.

I presume it was his own book to burn?