5 days in the office - rant!!!

Thanks for the permission to have my own opinion 👍🏼😂

Jeez-I bet those poor kids working in apple sweat shops are crying over checks notes office workers having to attend the office 3 times a week

Don't care think what you want

It’s a shame for them. But doesn’t mean everyone should have to if their job allows them to work remotely.

😂

How exactly? Because I think it’s pathetic to have a problem with people working from home?

Your entitlement is showing..

So what about the people who had no choice but to travel to work or lose their jobs. Think what ever I don't work so good luck. What a country

It certainly seems to get the saddos frothing at the mouth, doesn’t it!

If 70% of the office workers say no, then the option for mgt is to close down the business or continue working from home.
I’ve seen it play out.
The power is literally with the people.

What’s going on?! I had no idea that working from home is another thing MN gets all worked up about.

Jesus, what is it with some peoples’ opinion that your working life should be as hard, draining and inflexible as humanly possible? So odd.

It’s so bizarre! Have these people always been like this about people who wfh?

I hate to disappoint you. But many, many people will continue to work remotely, as they have done for years before Covid.

I swear some people on this thread would rather a builder travelled an extra couple of hours to an identical local store for supplies.

Presumably you don't work in an office job or one where you can WFH as your post exudes bitterness.

It’s daft OP. It’s even more daft when mandating days means some people are in and on calls with people from other offices all day, whereas others where there’s a need for them to be in, can’t come in because space is taken up by people who don’t need to be in. Of course there’s those who come in sick, just to amp up the presenteeism and reduce productivity even more.

My work certainly can’t make everyone go back the office as we don’t fit, they could ask people to go in 2/3 days but those logistics would probably be quite difficult

Maybe

but we don’t all fit in our office, so what would be your solution for that

Why? Why does it bother you that people can work remotely?

’Everyone’ isn’t going back into the office I’m afraid. Many of us will continue working from home for the foreseeable.

Ha bloody haaaa is all I can say. It’s about time everyone went back to the office.

Undoubtedly exists but seems the former seems to be unusually high with MN’ers- I work in a company with 250k employees and we don’t employee anyone on this basis- even IT project managers etc would be expected to raise that they have capacity to support another project or BAU.

I know from reading similar threads to these, there seems to be two business models for working.

One is, that you’re given a certain job to do, and you’re paid for doing that job. Eg paint a portrait, so once that task is completed, you’ve fulfilled your obligation.

The other is that you are paid for working so many hours, so if you’ve finished your portrait, you’re then expected to start a new one, if there’s still hours in the day left.

Young people aren’t being forced into working full time from home. There are plenty of office based or hybrid jobs available.

I am yet to meet a young person who does not see the benefits of being able to work from home sometimes.

Coming at this from a different perspective. I do get that experienced employees feel they don’t need to be in the office 5 days a week however I am also reading about our young people who are struggling in the workplace or with mental health. When I started working many years ago it was really easy to ask someone else in the office for support when tackling new challenges and understanding how to do things in line with company policy. As a new employee I relied on those interactions with the experienced team members. During Covid I started a new job obviously working from home. While I had lots of experience it was within a brand new industry that I wasn’t that familiar with and I struggled with some elements of the role as there was a lot of time delay in getting responses to questions. Other employees would be showing unavailable and it took time to get responses. I would have to approach lots of different people whereas when I was office based there were quite a few people around and sometimes a person would overhear your questions and be able to contribute. Often an experienced employee can do a lot of their role from home themselves but new employees rely on their experience to find their feet and develop in their own careers and this support is not effective from a distance. I personally feel I owe the next generation this support as it was given to me. Plus I have great memories of nights out after work in my twenties with my work colleagues which so many younger workers are missing out on now.

@StinkyCheeseMoose I see no reason for my boss to insist I go into the office because I am contractually home based - and if they did insist on it they would be breeching my contract. I have been in this organisation since 2018 and promoted twice. Clearly soooo bad at my job.

Not to mention they permanently shut all our offices bar head office way before Covid.

If you think companies can demand whatever the like from their workers and workers should just roll over and take it I feel sorry for you.
We aren't all boot licking corporate drones, and that is most definitely a good thing.

Like I said earlier my work (as all good employers should) encourages screen breaks, regularly for at least 15 mins - and they are more than happy with me doing what ever I fancy in those breaks - laundry, a quick hoover, popping to the post office, a joe wicks 15 min HIIT - whatever. They know about it, and they do not think I or anyone else who does this is "taking the piss" as they actively encourage it.

If your work makes is genuinely bothered about what you do while the kettle boils, you must work for such a tedious place.