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Migrants get up to £2000 on bankcard after prison sentences

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Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:14

Just watched 47 migrants being deported, costing hundreds of thousands, private flights, huge number of security guards, the migrants then get given cash cards! Back to Romania after committing crimes here including murder, sexual offences, pedophiles with money to help them resettle in their own country.

ITV news - our own go hungry and cold.

We are total mugs here in the UK.

On a separate story migrants having taxis to appointments, free NHS. I mean we have to get to our own way.

Mugs. No wonder many people are unhappy. These are convicted criminals, being pandered to.

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Lilactimes · 25/09/2025 17:01

Interested in comments on the following immigrations stats pasted below (especially from @Nestingbirds whom I have asked on previous threads for her definitions of illegal economic immigrants). I am assuming you mean asylum seekers?
And from this note, it appears immigration is declining from 2022 peak? It would suggest that Labour have continued to find ways to reduce it following on from Sunak - inspite of comments that they’re useless?

Yes there are problems in this country.
Is Farage blaming people arriving on boats? Or is he saying it’s a wider group of people than those arriving on boats? If so WHO exactly are the immigrants he feels are responsible for our woes?
Before Brexit, he was blaming Europe for our problems. Now it’s people on boats. It’s a shame we are no longer part of the Dublin Protocol then we could return those claiming asylum to the first country they landed in within the EU. Apparently now we aren’t in the EU, those refused asylum in the EU have a second chance to claim asylum in Britain.
This is a downside of Brexit that Farage, campaigned for!!!!

Immigration is complex, varied and both beneficial and problematic.

Are there benefits to Immigration? What value to immigrants bring? Or is the general anger directed simply to those seeing asylum and in hotels/ getting taxis etc?

IMMIGRTION SUMMARY
Yes, the UK has experienced a sharp increase in net immigration since Brexit, though net migration levels have fallen significantly in 2024 from their peak in 2023. This rise was driven by a large increase in non-EU immigration, which more than offset a decrease in EU migration. Factors contributing to this included liberalised work and study visa rules, new humanitarian routes, and active recruitment by universities.

Key Points
Overall Trend:
While net migration has recently declined from record highs in 2023, it remained higher in 2024 than during the 2010s.

Non-EU Immigration:
The post-Brexit rise was almost entirely due to a significant increase in non-EU immigration.

Factors driving non-EU immigration:
Work and Study: Increased numbers of people came to the UK for work, particularly in health and care, and for study.

Humanitarian Routes: New visa routes were opened for Ukrainians and people from Hong Kong.

University Recruitment: Universities increased their overseas student recruitment as their financial situations worsened.

Impact of Brexit:
The shift from free movement for EU citizens to a points-based system for non-EU citizens unexpectedly led to higher overall net migration.

Recent Trends:
Figures showed a sharp decline in net migration in 2024, with net migration halving from the previous year. This was largely due to decreases in health and care visas and fewer Ukrainian and Afghan arrivals.

Before you continue to Google Search

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&rlz=1CDGOYI_enGB864GB866&sca_esv=287ca369918f8ab1&cs=0&q=Non-EU+Immigration&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi_2OHVr_OPAxWzgP0HHT2NCRQQxccNegQIIRAB

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 17:00

Daygloboo · 25/09/2025 16:58

What's darvo. Is it when you blame the victim

Deny, attack, reverse victim and offender

Daygloboo · 25/09/2025 16:58

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:51

Oh @nomas
You really have got that DARVO skill set brushed up, haven’t you?

What's darvo. Is it when you blame the victim

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:56

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:54

Yes, by some yobs! Not the women of MN!

Why do you think yob means you?

WOMEN express concern

YOBS commit violence.

You attributed their violence to the discourse surrounding the concerns with illegal immigration.

Ninjasan · 25/09/2025 16:55

StrawberryJangle · 24/09/2025 22:19

It's been repeatedly reported today that deportation and 2K is far cheaper than keeping them here.

There is a cheaper option. Deport with no money.

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:54

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:53

You then wrote that it was used as an excuse to commit violence… what do you think that implies?

Yes, by some yobs! Not the women of MN!

Why do you think yob means you?

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:54

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:53

🤣

Which bit was DARVO?

The bit where I expressed concern for the safety of women and you stated I was a risk to women.

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:53

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:51

Oh @nomas
You really have got that DARVO skill set brushed up, haven’t you?

🤣

Which bit was DARVO?

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:53

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:51

My post literally says people who want less immigration are not automatically racist.

If you’e reading something else, it’s entirely in your own brain.

You then wrote that it was used as an excuse to commit violence… what do you think that implies?

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:51

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:49

🙄🙄
Speak out in opposition to illegal immigration.

Sorry. I will make an effort to make things explicit enough for you to understand and not assume a level of good faith from you.

Edited

My post literally says people who want less immigration are not automatically racist.

If you’e reading something else, it’s entirely in your own brain.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:51

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:50

Which part of yobs attacking minorities blames the women of MN? I suspect you can’t answer because you know it’s nonsensical.

I genuinely hope you don’t work with vulnerable women, I can only imagine you would try to gaslight them.

Oh @nomas
You really have got that DARVO skill set brushed up, haven’t you?

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:50

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:47

It’s really difficult to converse with someone in good faith when they spend 50% of the dialogue pretending they haven’t meant what they’ve written.

Which part of yobs attacking minorities blames the women of MN? I suspect you can’t answer because you know it’s nonsensical.

I genuinely hope you don’t work with vulnerable women, I can only imagine you would try to gaslight them.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:49

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:46

How does ‘No one has said people who want less immigration are automatically racist but there are yobs using the current situation as an excuse to target Asians and black people’ blame the women of MN?

This heavily implies that women shouldn’t speak about it so as not to cause men committing violence.

Why shouldn’t women speak about it? I’m a woman speaking about it!

Edited

🙄🙄
Speak out in opposition to illegal immigration.

Sorry. I will make an effort to make things explicit enough for you to understand and not assume a level of good faith from you.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:47

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:46

How does ‘No one has said people who want less immigration are automatically racist but there are yobs using the current situation as an excuse to target Asians and black people’ blame the women of MN?

This heavily implies that women shouldn’t speak about it so as not to cause men committing violence.

Why shouldn’t women speak about it? I’m a woman speaking about it!

Edited

It’s really difficult to converse with someone in good faith when they spend 50% of the dialogue pretending they haven’t meant what they’ve written.

CarrotCrusader · 25/09/2025 16:47

Why do they give them £2000? What do the migrants need it for?

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:46

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:44

I’ve edited it to really make it easier to read because I had a feeling you still “wouldn’t understand”

How does ‘No one has said people who want less immigration are automatically racist but there are yobs using the current situation as an excuse to target Asians and black people’ blame the women of MN?

This heavily implies that women shouldn’t speak about it so as not to cause men committing violence.

Why shouldn’t women speak about it? I’m a woman speaking about it!

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:44

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:43

You’ve not said how I’ve blamed women for male violence?

Edited because you edited your post: the paragraph of mine you quoted does not blame the women of MN, it blames the yobs.

Edited

I’ve edited it to really make it easier to read because I had a feeling you still “wouldn’t understand”

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:43

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:39

Ok

You’re going with faux naivety.

“No one has said people who want less immigration are automatically racist but there are yobs using the current situation as an excuse to target Asians and black people.”

In this paragraph, you’re saying that women expressing concern about immigration gives “yobs” an “excuse” to commit violence. This heavily implies that women shouldn’t speak about it so as not to cause men committing violence.

If you refuse to take ownership of that message, then there’s not much can be gained from conversation with you.

Edited

You’ve not said how I’ve blamed women for male violence?

Edited because you edited your post: the paragraph of mine you quoted does not blame the women of MN, it blames the yobs.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:39

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:38

Where have I blamed women for male violence?

You thinking or saying something incorrect doesn’t make it true.

Edit: since you edited your post, yes, they are men, hence I said yobs. I didn’t say the women of MN did the attacks!

Edited

Ok

You’re going with faux naivety.

“No one has said people who want less immigration are automatically racist but there are yobs using the current situation as an excuse to target Asians and black people.”

In this paragraph, you’re saying that women expressing concern about immigration gives “yobs” an “excuse” to commit violence. This heavily implies that women shouldn’t speak about it so as not to cause men committing violence.

If you refuse to take ownership of that message, then there’s not much can be gained from conversation with you.

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:38

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:36

  1. A man was arrested after punching a Muslim and pulling a knife in a racist attack on families outside a mosque in Portsmouth.
  2. Racist attacks against 2 Muslim men in York by 15 balaclava clad men
  3. A man was arrested after a Sikh woman was raped in the West Midlands in a racist attack

Simply, women discussing the dangers of thousands of unknown adult males entering our communities is not the reason men commit violence.

Men commit violence regardless of what women think. Stop blaming women for male violence.

Edited

Where have I blamed women for male violence?

You thinking or saying something incorrect doesn’t make it true.

Edit: since you edited your post, yes, they are men, hence I said yobs. I didn’t say the women of MN did the attacks!

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:37

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:32

I’m not sure whether you really don’t understand what you’re writing or if this is faux naivety.

You’re not making any sense. Who have I attributed what to which poster?

You can’t be vague and expect people to know what you’re talking about.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:36

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:23

Eh? To which poster have I attributed the violence to? Not sure what you’re on about.

  1. A man was arrested after punching a Muslim and pulling a knife in a racist attack on families outside a mosque in Portsmouth.
  2. Racist attacks against 2 Muslim men in York by 15 balaclava clad men
  3. A man was arrested after a Sikh woman was raped in the West Midlands in a racist attack

Simply, women discussing the dangers of thousands of unknown adult males entering our communities is not the reason men commit violence.

Men commit violence regardless of what women think. Stop blaming women for male violence.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 16:32

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:23

Eh? To which poster have I attributed the violence to? Not sure what you’re on about.

I’m not sure whether you really don’t understand what you’re writing or if this is faux naivety.

nomas · 25/09/2025 16:23

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 15:50

Sorry, you’re going to have to quote anyone who has supported the violence you’ve linked here if you’re going to try to attribute it to them.

Eh? To which poster have I attributed the violence to? Not sure what you’re on about.

Ihatetomatoes · 25/09/2025 16:19

Letstradegums · 25/09/2025 15:55

Sorry OP, I promise this will be my last reply to you.

"Too many people don't read the actual comment and jump in"... This is you. You saw a programme, misinterpreted part of it, then came to a large forum for a rant before checking any facts.

Please, please, educate yourself on anything you see or read in the media before sharing misinformation. It's not fair to the millions of non-white citizens or visitors in this country who will be subjected to racism because of people sharing misinformation and inciting racism.

I didn't misinterpreted part of it. I shared what the programme said. Its up to the programme to present details fairly. My comments pertained to the giving of cash. Some posters have added some reasons for that, which makes sense.

'Sharing misinformation and inciting racism' 1. Total rubbish and usual comments thrown around to shut people down. I imagine hundreds of thousands saw the article if not a million watchers. A small number read this thread in comparison. Perhaps take up issues with ITV. This is a discussion forum where people can air views and challenge.

  1. I've incited no racism. Point me to racism. The individuals were all convicted criminals and returned to their country where they are safe.

Its a discussion that needs having since the UK needs to save money and sort out the problems. Popping your fingers in ears and insisting their are no problems won't help at all.

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