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Migrants get up to £2000 on bankcard after prison sentences

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Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:14

Just watched 47 migrants being deported, costing hundreds of thousands, private flights, huge number of security guards, the migrants then get given cash cards! Back to Romania after committing crimes here including murder, sexual offences, pedophiles with money to help them resettle in their own country.

ITV news - our own go hungry and cold.

We are total mugs here in the UK.

On a separate story migrants having taxis to appointments, free NHS. I mean we have to get to our own way.

Mugs. No wonder many people are unhappy. These are convicted criminals, being pandered to.

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nomas · 24/09/2025 22:53

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:49

Not correct. These were ALL convicted criminals, not voluntary ones, go watch the news report, its was on ITV. They didn’t want to leave, they were escorted onto the planes after prison sentences ended, and given pre loaded bank cards with up to £2000 on.

✅ 1. Cost-effectiveness
Deporting someone forcibly is very expensive — it involves:

  • Legal processes (appeals, tribunals, etc.)
  • Detention before removal (costly to house and guard)
  • Escorts during travel
  • Coordination with foreign governments

In contrast, voluntary return is significantly cheaper. A one-off payment or travel assistance can save the government tens of thousands of pounds per case.

✅ 2.Legal and human rights obligations
The UK, like all countries, is bound by human rights laws (such as the European Convention on Human Rights). This means:

  • You can’t just deport someone without due process
  • You can’t deport people to countries where they face a real risk of torture, death, or persecution
  • You have to offer alternatives when forced removal is not viable

Voluntary return schemes help the UK stay within legal boundaries while still encouraging people to leave.

Source: ChatGPT. And it’s correct.

NoSoupForU · 24/09/2025 22:53

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:38

Exactly. Come back and try again.

It doesn't work like that. The facilitated removal scheme (which is what this is) is only available after serving a sentence of 12 months to 4 years. Nobody is coming here and purposely committing crime and spending at least a year in prison to take £2k home.

And there is a re-entry ban.

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:53

Anyahyacinth · 24/09/2025 22:48

Just to agree last time I was in hospital the carers and many other staff holding things together were Romanian, Phillipino, African etc..…amazing over qualified people doing care work 12 hour shifts to care beautifully for very vulnerable people ( I was the ward baby with a severely broken leg)..the NHS would collapse without them and don’t mention community carers ..that’s even more reliant on leave to remain

That's great. Different people.

The ones being deported were convicted criminals NOT workers or carers that have done nothing wrong.

Its pretty obvious that few commenting actually watched the news report. It wasn't people employed in hospitals being deported, it was criminals at the end of prison sentences!

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Anyahyacinth · 24/09/2025 22:52

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:47

Oh well nevermind then, just keep pissing millions away then, nothing to see here, can't be improved. 🙄

“Nothing to see here” is insightful as that’s exactly what the focus on this trivia is - a bait and switch distraction for the serious issues in our society…let’s blame the few strangers rather than fixing the big problems …millions is nothing in comparison to what isn’t being paid to build our state services…but you keep looking at the little guy as the root of all our problems 🤦‍♀️ nothing to see here as you say

Furgal · 24/09/2025 22:50

A one off payment of £2k is going to be much cheaper than paying their rent and bills I guess.

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:49

rockstarshoes · 24/09/2025 22:46

OP it is the voluntary ones who get the £2000, the others don’t get anything!
People are never satisfied are they? We don’t want them here deport them, and shouting because deporting people costs money!
The detail says that compared to fighting the deportation in the courts, or keeping people in prison £2k is nothing.

Not correct. These were ALL convicted criminals, not voluntary ones, go watch the news report, its was on ITV. They didn’t want to leave, they were escorted onto the planes after prison sentences ended, and given pre loaded bank cards with up to £2000 on.

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mirrorsandlights · 24/09/2025 22:48

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:47

Oh well nevermind then, just keep pissing millions away then, nothing to see here, can't be improved. 🙄

Eh? What are you on about. I said it isn’t easy and, if it were, it would be happening already. To edit, I don’t mean that I agree with removing asylum seekers if their claims are upheld and we need migrants to run out services. There needs to be managed migration, our birth rate is falling.

Anyahyacinth · 24/09/2025 22:48

mirrorsandlights · 24/09/2025 22:44

Farage talks through his arse. You watched that news story, it was incredibly difficult and expensive to deport these criminals and yet he thinks he can ship out every asylum seeker and immigrant. It would cost the country billions and eat up all the money you say should be going to services like health and education. If it was easy to do governments would have done it already.

Just to agree last time I was in hospital the carers and many other staff holding things together were Romanian, Phillipino, African etc..…amazing over qualified people doing care work 12 hour shifts to care beautifully for very vulnerable people ( I was the ward baby with a severely broken leg)..the NHS would collapse without them and don’t mention community carers ..that’s even more reliant on leave to remain

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:47

mirrorsandlights · 24/09/2025 22:44

Farage talks through his arse. You watched that news story, it was incredibly difficult and expensive to deport these criminals and yet he thinks he can ship out every asylum seeker and immigrant. It would cost the country billions and eat up all the money you say should be going to services like health and education. If it was easy to do governments would have done it already.

Oh well nevermind then, just keep pissing millions away then, nothing to see here, can't be improved. 🙄

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rockstarshoes · 24/09/2025 22:46

OP it is the voluntary ones who get the £2000, the others don’t get anything!
People are never satisfied are they? We don’t want them here deport them, and shouting because deporting people costs money!
The detail says that compared to fighting the deportation in the courts, or keeping people in prison £2k is nothing.

nomas · 24/09/2025 22:46

OP, why are you acting like this is new news? The Facilitated Return Scheme has been operating since 2006!

It works out much cheaper to send the criminals back with a couple of grand, plus they will never be allowed to re-enter the UK.

BIossomtoes · 24/09/2025 22:45

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:24

They aren't our citizens, they are Romanian, let the Romanians deal with their own. We aren't responsible for other countries people. Not our problem.

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They can’t be “dealt with” by their own country if they’re here, can they?

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:45

Querty123456 · 24/09/2025 22:43

You do know that reform would get rid of the NHS if they get in right?

Again, I've never suggested reform! I said I understand why some vote reform.

I want the government to sort it quickly and stop giving money to convicted criminals going back to their own safe countries!

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mirrorsandlights · 24/09/2025 22:44

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:16

I don't like Nigel but can see why he's getting votes.

It needs sorting by the government quick.

Actually watch the report, its mond boggling the costs for 47 convicted criminals.

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Farage talks through his arse. You watched that news story, it was incredibly difficult and expensive to deport these criminals and yet he thinks he can ship out every asylum seeker and immigrant. It would cost the country billions and eat up all the money you say should be going to services like health and education. If it was easy to do governments would have done it already.

Anyahyacinth · 24/09/2025 22:43

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:40

The less time they are here, the more money saved.

Well it's dominating politics at present so unless its sorted will continue to cause division.

It’s just a pathetic distraction for people who can’t see the bigger picture of where money is really being extracted from our society. Very sad really as they will only make their own situations worse.

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:43

Eskarina1 · 24/09/2025 22:41

I think the poster is assuming you think reform are the solution. Reform who have explicitly stated they'd remove right to remain (which would impact law abiding carers) and who have certainly talked about health insurance being the answer.

But you could just be genuinely frustrated and looking for answers.

I didn't suggest Reform were the answer though. I'm exasperated that main parties cannot sort this.

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Querty123456 · 24/09/2025 22:43

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:36

Obviously some on mumsnet think it's funny that people are annoyed. Its pretty disgusting that so much money is wasted when people here have needs not met, health, education etc.

You do know that reform would get rid of the NHS if they get in right?

abathofmilkwithladydi · 24/09/2025 22:43

Fuck sake.

Go and put some flags up.

SweetManateeOfGalilee · 24/09/2025 22:43

TomatoSandwiches · 24/09/2025 22:19

What should we do then op, ever which way these people are to be "processed" costs money, even not allowing them to enter the UK.

So what's the answer?

Clearly op thinks we should tar feather and maybe burn them?

BrisPerm · 24/09/2025 22:42

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:36

Obviously some on mumsnet think it's funny that people are annoyed. Its pretty disgusting that so much money is wasted when people here have needs not met, health, education etc.

You know what else is disgusting? Putting illegals up in hotels whilst British homeless sleep on the streets.

if they could come up with a solution to housing illegals, why couldn’t they come up with the same solution to getting British homeless off the streets? Why were hotels not used for them?

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:42

Anyahyacinth · 24/09/2025 22:39

The poster said they would vote reform who’ve said they would abandon a free nhs etc…

They said that the 'yawn' and the 'hi Nige' replies make them consider voting reform... not that they were going to. I think its the dismissal of concerns and dismissive attitudes that people find annoying.

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Eskarina1 · 24/09/2025 22:41

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:37

None of these people will be carers. They were all convicted criminals on the flight.

I think the poster is assuming you think reform are the solution. Reform who have explicitly stated they'd remove right to remain (which would impact law abiding carers) and who have certainly talked about health insurance being the answer.

But you could just be genuinely frustrated and looking for answers.

mirrorsandlights · 24/09/2025 22:40

CrispyK · 24/09/2025 22:36

It’s like an incentive to become a career criminal tourist. Anything to actually stop them from repeatedly entering the country, committing a minor crime, short stay in prison then back home on a free flight with £2k in the bank?

Nothing about minor crimes, these are men who have committed serious crimes. £2,000 to get rid of them permanently is a price well paid. If they don’t get the money they will find every legal chance to prolong their stay which just costs the country more money.

Jamesblonde2 · 24/09/2025 22:40

YANBU OP. Why the frig do we give money away like this?! They wouldn’t get a crumb off me. Yes we are absolute first rate mugs. It doesn’t matter what it would have cost if they were here. They shouldn’t bloody be here in the first place!!

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:40

Anyahyacinth · 24/09/2025 22:38

How much do you think all those extra measures would cost?

The less time they are here, the more money saved.

Well it's dominating politics at present so unless its sorted will continue to cause division.

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