Migrants get up to £2000 on bankcard after prison sentences

Difference is I don’t have that mentality at all. I would tinker with the immigration system, though probably not as much as I’d change health, foreign policy, education, housing, etc But in the grand scheme of things I just can’t get worked up about it.

Got any evidence that Romanians (or any other nationals) are deliberately committing crimes to get themselves jailed for 12 months and then waiting for the convoluted process of deportation to end so they can get £2,000?

Because that looks like a very poor return on investment. All that effort for earning what equates to £100 per month?

Why would they do that when they could get more on Job seeker’s allowance?

I wonder what all of the fuss is about then? And why Labour are bleeding out in the approval polls? And why reform are gaining such widespread support across all classes up and down the country? All because of 47 people - JFC 🥴

That's an upfront cost to deal with past incompetence (and don't think 170bn is that much in context of US and v to put in context its estimated the Boriswave will cost us over £200bn for a much smaller country). Going forward it will save money.

The teenager who flung a giant armchair off the balcony of a shopping centre, totally uncaring about who he might kill or paralyse, needed a Somali interpreter in court. Presumably, as a minor (let's hope that someone has actually checked he really is), he won't ever be deported. What joys he'll be bringing us in future. Definite boon to the UK and its economy.

This. They're not our problem and if they've been convicted of any crime they shouldn't be able to fight deportation. They lost any right to appeal against being deported when they committed the crime.

@BrisPermsorry do you actually work in homelessness? I do, so allow me to speak about my experience. If you offer hotels to the many, many homeless people in the UK today, many would say no. Many would trash it. That’s just the facts. I like the people I support and they often have histories of trauma, abuse, addiction, shit parents, untreated mental illness, neurodivergent brains, learning needs which they have never been helped with, but often there are complex reasons why they end up street homeless. It’s not always a lack of a home.
Local authorities will offer emergency housing, and will put British people up in hotels. I have witnessed it hundreds of times. But some people burn their bridges. Some people I work with have flats and choose to sleep in a tent outside as they feel safer. Some like the community of street life. Some find houses or flats, front doors etc really triggering. Some find it too solitary. Some find it too sanitised and miss the every day fight or flight, trying to survive aspect of street life. That’s not romanticising it.
The two problems are unrelated.

And the £600 taxis taking place? The billions being paid out to hotels? All just nothing?

I'll start by saying I'm very liberal left leaning and pro immigration (though we've had an incompetent government that can't actually manage to create any infrastructure to support immigration, but that's another issue...)

The thing is, in the grand scheme of things is this a big deal? Do I think we should hand taxpayer money to murderers? When you put it like that, no. But it's overall cheaper than keeping them here or fighting their right to appeal.

Ultimately it's 47 people. The amount of money is negligible. There are so many more important issues facing this country, like the amount of untaxed wealth that could go to building the infrastructure we need. I'm tired of reformers harping on about immigrants to the detriment of every other issue and honestly just feels like an excuse for people to be xenophobic and I'm sick of it.

But then the UK could be sued at the European Court of Human Rights, which would cost millions.

Have you seen how much Trump is spending on making it 'unprofitable to arrive'? He spent more on ICE in 6 months than the entire 15 years previous. ICE's budget is now greater than almost every country's military budget. The last cheque signed off to fund it was $170 billion.

Erm, it is being facilitated on an industrial scale my friend. It is not hard to come back fgs! Couldn’t be easier currently! Bloody hell you need to wake up.

My Mond is boggled that anyone would vote for Farage but there you go

True - but deportation and £0 would be cheaper still. They’re really not our problem once deported.

The process to get the facilitated return fee is extremely long and convoluted, no one is coming back and forth to do that.

I don’t doubt that there are some Romanians (and other nationals) committing fraud but it’s not for the facilitated return fee. They would need to commit a crime that jails them for 12 months + and then await the process of deportation. Literally no one is doing that.

If you’e a fraudster, you would want a lot more than £2,000 from your fraud. Use your noggin, mate 🤣

Well why don’t you show us your maths skills, and tell us how we pay for all of these millions of economic migrants? We have been asking exactly this for the last 20 years and there is total tumbleweed - always

So homeless people shouldn't be able to access proper healthcare now? You see nothing wrong with that?

Nah, you can’t argue with people who can’t do simple math.

You don't need to crack any global gangs, just make it unprofitable to arrive illegally a la Trump, Japan, Poland and every other sane country in the world, including us in the past.

Or maybe they will simply get a GP appointment before their four year old develops sepsis.

Have you just woken up and realized that people are angry about immigration and especially illegal migration.

Well done. Never too late.

They’ve latched onto immigration as their issue and that’s it. All we need to do is send away all the foreigners and then every English man and woman will be living in a country mansion with a Ferrari and Lamborghini parked in the garage. All Praise Farage!

And this is the concern. Whilst they have been drinking the far left cool aid, someone has to actually pay for all of this, not just now but for decades and decades - and to house millions of extra people. They can never ever explain how this will all paid for - it is infuriating.

I have dropped my friends that babble on that it’s everyone’s world etc etc - they can’t see the suffering and the poverty their mindset is inflicting on others less fortunate than themselves.

Oh god is that what people are angry about? That the UK government hasn't managed to crack a global network of criminal gangs yet?

Y'all really do want simple answers to massive complicated problems. Fuck it. Get the Navy onto them, right?

There’s no link to your search, just a dodgy screenshot.

Why not post a link like I did?