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DS plans to leave his central London flat totally empty for a year

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Tedsabear · 24/09/2025 16:25

Hi all, so my DS’s dad passed away a couple of years ago, between his pension, life insurance and home DS and as able to sell his home and buy a flat in central London. He spent over 1 million on this (his dad wasn’t super wealthy or anything he just owned a property in a nice area of London and it was paid off mortgage wise). His girlfriend is Portuguese and also owns property in Lisbon.
They are mid 20s.

They have decided to spend the next year as digital nomads as they are able to work remotely. I told DS he should rent out his flat and his girlfriend should do the same. One from a security perspective and two as extra income. He has said no he doesn’t like the idea of someone staying in his space, he’s said I can go and check on it once a month or “whatever” if I like. He said his girlfriend will be doing the same anyway.

AIBU to think he’s being ridiculous?

OP posts:
Londonmummy66 · 24/09/2025 19:16

DrowningInSyrup · 24/09/2025 17:19

And this cost a million? Is London that amazing?

Somewhere like Mayfair or St James's probably only get the one bedroom for £1m

Nodecaffallowed · 24/09/2025 19:16

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Heylittlesongbird · 24/09/2025 19:10

BreadInCaptivity · 24/09/2025 18:43

All above points considered what about the scenario his nomad dream isn’t what he thought it was cracked up to be and wants to return after 3 months?

Or if he and his GF split up?

A year is not actually that long and the costs of renting plus the risks may well mean he makes little to no money. Given awful tenants he could end up out of pocket plus have his year out totally screwed up by dealing with the fallout.

It’s a very different proposal to rent your own home in comparison to owning a rental property.

Does he leave his stuff there and risk it being trashed/stolen or pay to move it into storage?

OP I think you are being very naive about the costs/risks/financial rewards of renting in this scenario.

In your DS’s situation it’s not something I would consider either.

Excellent points in this post.

Praying4Peace · 24/09/2025 19:07

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 24/09/2025 16:27

While they're away you can rent it out without telling him. You'd make thousands of pounds and he sounds a bit clueless so probably won't cotton on. Everyone's a winner.

You must be joking?

InterIgnis · 24/09/2025 19:06

cupfinalchaos · 24/09/2025 18:57

I never understand people who say adult kids aren’t our business, my adult kids will
always be my business, even if I don’t meddle I will always care, worry and be there for them. My dm worries about my children now!

Loving, caring and worrying are distinct from meddling, and inserting yourself where you’re not welcome. In that respect, an adult child is your business to the extent that they allow themselves to be.

While OP may have the right to her opinion, he has the right to deny her a listening ear.

confusedlady10 · 24/09/2025 19:03

Wkanznjs · 24/09/2025 17:29

He’s not being ridiculous. Being a landlord is a crazy thing these days. Due to rogue landlords, all landlords are now severely disadvantaged. If a tenant doesn’t want to leave, you can’t make them, without spending tens of thousands in court. And it’s all so pointless as rogue landlords are still treating tenants like shit and getting away with it. If it’s his own home, having people in when you have no idea who they are or how they’ll treat it can worse than leaving it empty.

I know a couple who went to Australia for 2 years and rented their family home out to another family. It was so badly destroyed. Not as explicitly obvious as you might imagine - but lots of little stains on every carpet, chipped plug sockets (??), nasty unauthorised paint jobs, just generally zero care for the house and loads of little dings everywhere. Original family were so upset when they returned to the UK that they sold the house. Based on legal advice, a relative of mine recently left his property empty for 6 months. No regrets - neighbours kept an eye and family visited it from time to time.

This 100%. My parents rented out our old family house so that we could rent somewhere close to my dad's new job at the time. The family he rented it to trashed the house, set up a fraudulent business there and sublet it themselves as well. Then when my dad tried to evict them for non payment of rent (of over a year) they refused to leave and threatened him. My dad ended up having to sell the house due to the court fees and time it took to get them out a well as the costs to repair the damage and could no long keep up with the mortgage. Being a landlord isn't as easy as it seems and many property management companies aren't that good!

Teaandtoastserveddaily · 24/09/2025 18:58

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 24/09/2025 16:27

While they're away you can rent it out without telling him. You'd make thousands of pounds and he sounds a bit clueless so probably won't cotton on. Everyone's a winner.

Hope youre joking???

cupfinalchaos · 24/09/2025 18:57

Largestlegocollectionever · 24/09/2025 16:38

I wouldn’t bother renting it either if I didn’t need to.

Really unsure why you’re so bothered about it? In the politest possible way, he’s an adult and it’s none of your business what he does!!

I never understand people who say adult kids aren’t our business, my adult kids will
always be my business, even if I don’t meddle I will always care, worry and be there for them. My dm worries about my children now!

Tiredofwhataboutery · 24/09/2025 18:55

You could offer to house sit then rent out your place?

Fingeronthebutton · 24/09/2025 18:53

Mr know it all is going to come a cropper.

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 24/09/2025 18:50

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 24/09/2025 16:27

While they're away you can rent it out without telling him. You'd make thousands of pounds and he sounds a bit clueless so probably won't cotton on. Everyone's a winner.

Don’t be so stupid suggesting illegal and sneaky manoeuvres. Yes,illegally subletting son flat and picketing the rent that’ll boost familial relationships

Marmaladeisntheonlypreserve · 24/09/2025 18:47

SriouslyWhutNow · 24/09/2025 16:30

We’re currently working abroad and left our house empty while we decide if this is permanent. Renting these days is a world of problems and getting tenants back out is extremely hard. No one wants an absentee landlord that the PM company can’t ever contact, either.

Have you told tge insurance company that you're living abroad? My house insurance stipulates that I need to inform them if I intend to leave the house uninhabited fot mot than a fortnight at a time.

Icanttakethisanymore · 24/09/2025 18:47

pinkstripeycat · 24/09/2025 18:05

You do need insurance if a properly isn’t lived in for a minimum of 90 days. You have to turn all heating and water off to an uninhabited house (I’ve done it so I know) due to water leaks, gas leaks, weather damage, other damage, break ins etc

Edited

It depends. We have a flat in a small block and we are not there often (neither are other owners) we just declare it when we organise the insurance. If it’s a leasehold (not share of freehold like ours) then the building insurance would need to cover all eventualities unless it’s stated in the lease that the flat needs to be occupied. Worth checking teams of the lease OP.

BreadInCaptivity · 24/09/2025 18:46

Greedybilly · 24/09/2025 18:38

And this is exactly why we have a housing crisis!

It’s absolutely not.

Many people who rent want long term security about where they live, not a year long contract.

We don’t have enough homes which then drives up prices. Thats why there is a crisis.

Icanttakethisanymore · 24/09/2025 18:44

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 24/09/2025 16:27

While they're away you can rent it out without telling him. You'd make thousands of pounds and he sounds a bit clueless so probably won't cotton on. Everyone's a winner.

😂

I assume you’re joking

Charredtea · 24/09/2025 18:43

InterIgnis · 24/09/2025 18:37

Lol. Not at all.

That said, even if he was blinkered (he isn’t), he’s fully entitled to be. It’s his property and he’s said no. Op can’t force him into it, so not sure what getting a letting agent would achieve.

The op question is: AIBU to think he’s being ridiculous?
I am responding to the op that yes I think he is and she is not being unreasonable.
a decent letting agent would mitigate any risk of lending to the wrong person and fix any issues and of course he is blinkered to the housing crisis if he’s happy to leave a property empty .
‘lol’ at you laughing at me as though mine is the only comment here that suggests applying the same common sense.

BreadInCaptivity · 24/09/2025 18:43

All above points considered what about the scenario his nomad dream isn’t what he thought it was cracked up to be and wants to return after 3 months?

Or if he and his GF split up?

A year is not actually that long and the costs of renting plus the risks may well mean he makes little to no money. Given awful tenants he could end up out of pocket plus have his year out totally screwed up by dealing with the fallout.

It’s a very different proposal to rent your own home in comparison to owning a rental property.

Does he leave his stuff there and risk it being trashed/stolen or pay to move it into storage?

OP I think you are being very naive about the costs/risks/financial rewards of renting in this scenario.

In your DS’s situation it’s not something I would consider either.

Flippertyfloppertyflip · 24/09/2025 18:41

An empty property requires special insurance. Part of the terms of empty property insurance is that someone checks the property weekly and provides evidence that this has been done.

MummaMummaMumma · 24/09/2025 18:39

He's an adult. None of your business

MuttsNutts · 24/09/2025 18:38

@Tedsabear It’s absolutely none of your business what he does with his flat. He’s a grown man and if he doesn’t want a stranger living in his home for a year (I wouldn’t either), that’s his prerogative.

No wonder your relationship is strained. Back off and keep your neb out is my advice.

Greedybilly · 24/09/2025 18:38

And this is exactly why we have a housing crisis!

InterIgnis · 24/09/2025 18:37

Charredtea · 24/09/2025 18:33

This is obscene. He sounds incredibly blinkered. Get a decent letting agent

Lol. Not at all.

That said, even if he was blinkered (he isn’t), he’s fully entitled to be. It’s his property and he’s said no. Op can’t force him into it, so not sure what getting a letting agent would achieve.

landlordhell · 24/09/2025 18:37

I get what you mean but they’re not exactly sh sort of cash are they now? They want the convenience. His flat, his choice. You could go and stay and have weekends in London while he’s away and check on the place.

blueliner · 24/09/2025 18:36

By the time he’s paid tax on the rental and paid for a company to maintain it, he’ll have not much left. Honestly it’s not free money renting out a flat, it’s full of taxes, costs and headaches.

InterIgnis · 24/09/2025 18:35

Team DS. It’s not worth it to rent it out for a year, and it could cost him more than he would make it in rent. Plus, it’s his home, it’s totally reasonable that he wouldn’t feel comfortable having someone else living there and using his things.

If your relationship is always strained, perhaps it isn’t the best idea to second guess his decisions and make your disapproval known. It may not be the choice you would make, but it’s not your choice. It’s his. Respect that.