To realise very few people care about road rules or the Highway Code any more

I was actually going to use this as an example that so many people don’t seem to know and then get angry and try and force their way through, even though they were nowhere near the row of cars when you started to go through!!

But it takes literally next to no physical energy to change lanes. Imagine being so pleased with yourself for breaking the law and inconveniencing everyone else because you’re simply too lazy to look, indicate and tilt your steering wheel a little bit.

I’m not convinced it’s a new thing. Remember we had TV adverts telling us to wear a seatbelt?

Also, in standing traffic,if an emergency vehicle needs you to move to create an extra lane for them to get through... don't move back into your old position afterwards because rheres likely to be more following. The sooner the emergency vehicles get through, the sooner the accident will be cleared.

The beeping thing drives me mad.

If you time to beep you have time to brake and you should only beep if someone is going to actually drive into you.

The other day I sw a van driver beep a car that went across the roundabout in front of him. He wouldn't have even needed to take his foot off the gas. But he was able to beep for no reason of course.

Yep this one. And pedestrians need to know what you are doing too, thought he magic indicator doesn't mean they can disappear if they are already in the middle of a road you want to cross.

On the indicating at roundabouts point, I find that a lot of people do indicate, but they indicate right - but then keep indicating right as they go round, rather than switching to left as they approach their exit. I think I'd actually prefer the no indicating and then indicating left!

The ones that annoy me are people who overtake cyclists when a car is coming towards them. And pavement parking. When I am Queen people who park on pavements will have their SUVs crushed and will be made to drive Smart cars instead. On The Roads.

Can't say I've noticed it getting worse. I passed my test in the 70s.

It's literally illegal to lane hog. What other laws do you break because you think you're exempt?

It’s seemed that Covid caused everyone to forget what indicators were for and oh dear lord the third lane hoggers have got so bad, there is talk of it being clamped down on as it is dangerous. We can only hope!

Rest my case

The car on the inside is the one in the right here though. The one in the outside lane is overtaking no one so needs to move in.

I don’t deliberately overtake but drive on the inside as you are supposed to and go 70 there if the road is clear. If someone is in lane 3 going slower than me I hardly think I’m ‘undertaking’.

I agree with you 100%, OP.
Driving standards are appalling. It’s as if people think they are indestructible.

This is a big issue to us locally. I commented to dh the other day it's a good job we know where we're going!

my big bug bears are:

lane hoggers
people who drive up the slip road slowly
people who break before the slip road (someone in front of me today slowed to 50 before they even got on the slip road)
people who go left on a roundabout but don't indicate so I'm sat there like an idiot when I could have gone.

Oh and I've seen a lot of people oblivious to emergency vehicles with twos and blues going recently. I even watched someone dawdle across a crossing the day whilst ambulance sat waiting for them!

People out there own interpretation on it

like undertaking
the reality is if your CREEPING along you can undertake the slower moving traffic
but people’s take on that is if someone is doing 69mph in the middle lane and your doing 70 in the slow lane you can undertake

You've missed the one about people using fog lights as normal headlightswhen there's absolutely no sign of any fog!

When waiting to join a dual carriageway where there's no slip road most drivers don't think to move over into the empty second lane so I can join, it's pretty much only lorry drivers who will move over.

Also annoys me when drivers don't say thank you if you let them out of a junction or give way if there are parked cars both sides of the road and it's only middle section free.

But I silently cheered when a pick up truck did number 4 on your list when a lane was closed on the motorway the other day and most people got over before the count down signs finished and lane closed that yes does involve a bit of queuing but if you have a performance type car-audit, bmw etc you are exempt from queuing and will go aloneg the lane that's been closed at 60mph until right at the last minute and expect the driver, whose been in stationery queuing traffic for a while to just let you in front of them them.

a slight delay of a few minutes doesn't trump rudeness

Correct road use and safety trumps everything. Use the road correctly. Forget what is nice / fair - you may think you're doing a good thing but what you're doing in reality is creating a hazard. This is why you're not supposed to flash others out of side roads, for example.

push in front when they can't go any further expected to be let through as soone as the car in front moves.

This is what merge in turn IS. You take turns. The car in front goes, then it's the turn of the person in the other lane. Then your turn.

You are interpreting correct road use as rudeness. Emotion has no place behind the wheel of a car. You need to refresh yourself on the highway code and perhaps take a few refresher driving lessons.

I attempt to be a good driver & rider

However, I agree that I have seen lots of poor driving, in particular
speeding
usage of mobile phones
Over taking on bends
Poor diving in bad weather conditions

I believe that AI cameras will in the future? generate lots of automatic driving fines

my issues with merge in turn are that obnoxious people seem to miss the IN TURN part! I have no issue at all letting one person at the front in. I do however take issue with letting five people in who are all trying to shove to the front and not wait their turn. It should be one in, then the car from the original queue proceeds, then another in etc. but this rarely happens! I agree it is silly to queue for 3 miles back, but there is also no need to be pushing!

I am however embarrassed to admit I was actually taught by my driving instructor to only indicate right on a roundabout if using the very last exit. If not using the last exit I was taught to not indicate til I have passed the exit prior to leaving and then to indicate left. I am honestly shocked to learn this is not accurate guidance!

The rules are the law @Ace56 - they are there to be followed! Imagine if we took your advice in other areas of life?!

As a new driver I don’t proclaim to be perfect and have definitely made mistakes, but I’ve been astounded by just how dangerous other drivers can be. Have had people nearly cause a collision to overtake me when I’m doing 20 on a 20 road by a busy high street/school area only to end up sat next to me at the same red light 🤨

The lack of indicators on roundabouts is another one that drives me barmy. Equally when the car behind you beeps because a car you’re giving way to at a roundabout hasn’t got their indicators on so you hold back and it turns out to be unnecessary because they take the first exit. Why are you beeping me?!

On the other hand, I was indicating right to go the whole way round a roundabout the other day. Roundabout was clear when I got there, however a speeding motorbike appeared once I was already on it and flew down the hill through the give way of the exit I was passing and thankfully I was able to slam my brakes on. He did put his hand up and mouth “sorry”, but for the love of god, when people ARE signalling at roundabouts… check them before you go 🤦‍♀️

You may not want to @Ace56 but it is the law. As well as being fined you can actually be given penalty points on your licence too for this offence. Whether that ever happens, I have my doubts, but it could.

On the ‘don’t indicate…’ point, it does the opposite of getting into bad habits, it makes you do proper observations. Bad habits include indicating then changing lane without having checked if anyone is going to be impacted by your manoeuvre. “But I indicated, why didn’t you move out of my way?” Whereas if you’d looked, you would have seen that the road wasn’t clear for you to just pull out. It costs nothing to look properly and can save lives.

I think many people these days simply drive to their own set of rules and say fuck it to the highway code.

I've been teaching my DD to drive since May, you really notice this when you have L plates on, people don't give a shit there's a young person just starting out on the roads- after 35 years of driving I've come to the conclusion most drivers are knobheads.

No weaving required, don’t be ridiculous. The inside lane is the driving lane, all the other lanes are overtaking lanes. If you’re not overtaking, drive on the left. If you’ve just overtaken one vehicle and another vehicle is coming up you will need to overtake, of course you don’t swerve back into the left lane then swerve out again immediately.

You are a mid lane hogger!!! It’s you!!!

On the ‘Don’t indicate if there’s no one to indicate to’ point, why not? It’s costs nothing. It stops you getting into bad habits