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To think that West End Theatre is going to perish due to over pricing?

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VanCleefArpels · 24/09/2025 12:43

Elf the Musical is back for the festive season. Fabulous! Let’s book……

Stalls seats £295/300
Circle seats £200 / £250

With train fares (not far away commuter belt) plus maybe a quick pizza afterwards a family of four will be spending a four figure sum for a night at the theatre. The best part of a month’s salary for many ordinary people.

How can this be sustainable?

IABU - suck it up, it’s not compulsory
IANBU - this kind of pricing will be the death of West End Theatre

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DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 25/09/2025 08:13

VanCleefArpels · 25/09/2025 07:56

Great discussion everyone thanks for all the different perspectives. I bought the tickets just to be clear, prior to posting. Still think it’s shame that theatre is becoming an elitist pursuit on the whole, or one limited to those who can take advantage of last minute deals ie people in and close to London

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Worth pointing out there are decent budget options in big regional cities too. I'm not too far from Manchester and feel quite well provisioned. It's not the West End but there's lots of great stuff on. The Palace and Opera House have a lot of seats at £15 and £25. Granted, the former are restricted leg room- I'm five foot five so not a particularly large human and it's still a bit of a squeeze. But the option is there.

You will pay more for the really big names, was about £80 for one of the cheapos at Hamilton, for example. But if you want to go to the theatre for £15, there'll be options. I'm looking at some ballet tickets for that right now. What really is a shame is that some people can't even run to that.

skippy67 · 25/09/2025 08:05

It's not "elitist". If there's a show I want to see, I plan ahead, start saving and go when I can afford to. It's not that deep.

Swimmum1206 · 25/09/2025 08:00

You definitely do not need to pay hundreds of pounds for a good view. We recently went to see Moulin Rouge. Tickets were £25 each. Yes we were up high, but they were fantastic seats without any sort of restricted view. We paid the same for Cabaret last year and again they were fantastic seats.

VanCleefArpels · 25/09/2025 07:56

Great discussion everyone thanks for all the different perspectives. I bought the tickets just to be clear, prior to posting. Still think it’s shame that theatre is becoming an elitist pursuit on the whole, or one limited to those who can take advantage of last minute deals ie people in and close to London

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TheCheeryTurtle · 24/09/2025 23:39

VanCleefArpels · 24/09/2025 13:16

You missed the bit where I said I have paid £200 for Hamilton in the past - completely aware. Neither did I say I hadn’t actually bought the tickets. My point was that a traditional family outing at Christmas to see a West End festive show now costs the thick end of an average monthly salary. That’s sad and I’d argue not a sustainable way to run an industry

how is that not sustainable?

Tickets sell, most nights are full booked. It's hard to book last minute because it's usually too late to get a seat. That sounds like a successful industry?

Horsie · 24/09/2025 23:33

VanCleefArpels · 24/09/2025 22:37

It’s for our traditional (20 years plus) Christmas outing…

Yes, I got that you wanted to go at Christmas, but going end of October is a way to avoid those prices and get the seats you want. Call it a holiday-season kick-off. And then do something cheaper in London around Christmas.

Squirrelsnut · 24/09/2025 23:13

Try Central Tickets.

MasterBeth · 24/09/2025 23:02

ClareBlue · 24/09/2025 22:51

There's plenty of really good theatre outside London that won't cost anywhere near to those prices. I agree that it's not sustainable but they will be bleating for tax payers help when they price themselves out of the market.

The producers of Elf The Christmas Musical will not ask for or expect government subsidies. They will make a nice amount of money.

ClareBlue · 24/09/2025 22:51

There's plenty of really good theatre outside London that won't cost anywhere near to those prices. I agree that it's not sustainable but they will be bleating for tax payers help when they price themselves out of the market.

stovokor · 24/09/2025 22:50

It is completely elitist, and yes, ultimately it will be the death of the theatre.
It’s ‘dynamic pricing’ and I loathe it.

DublinLaLaLa · 24/09/2025 22:49

BigHouseLittleHouse · 24/09/2025 13:13

Yabu.

The theatre is now for rich people and people with an NHS/teachers discount code.

the rest of us can go fish.

What are these teacher discounts you speak of? 🧐

everyoldsock · 24/09/2025 22:45

zaxxon · 24/09/2025 17:34

Agree, it's eye-watering what they charge. I'd go to the theatre a lot more if it weren't so expensive. Even the off-West End places like the Almeida or the Bridge or the Donmar are very pricey.

The cheap seat deals are rarely worth it imo. I've done a few and usually had a rotten view. Operation Mincemeat would have been a lot more fun if I hadn't been looking straight down at the crowns of the actors' heads.

Bring back the days when you could queue up at the National in the morning to get a front-row ticket that evening for £10 ...

You can get £10 tickets every Friday at the National for performances the following week, which is one of the best bargains I’ve heard of for a long time. They also do reduced price standby tickets an hour before the start of each performance.

RubyFlewToo · 24/09/2025 22:45

VanCleefArpels · 24/09/2025 22:35

Not terribly festive in November!! I take your point but if we are getting to the point of saying £180 is a bargain then we’re in trouble!!

£180 isn’t a bargain (to me) at all, but a few tickets sold at that price to those who can afford them will help to pay for the production. The vast majority of seats there are £88 too, which probably is a bargain considering how many people are involved and the cost of the project. If you assume there are 20 actors then you’re paying them £4.40 each for their performance

Wkanznjs · 24/09/2025 22:40

Plus lots of people are fed up with too many toys so may get such tickets as a christmas experience.

Wkanznjs · 24/09/2025 22:39

I don't know - people come from all over the world to visit London year round. Perhaps they will buy the tickets as a blow out expenses as they're on holiday. Plus there are plenty of grandparents with cash swilling around-perhaps they will buy tickets for their GC. I imagine the people who have put the prices up so high have done so because they have some sort of algorithm or market analysis. All they need to do if they want more people in is to drop the price a bit anyway.

everyoldsock · 24/09/2025 22:37

VanCleefArpels · 24/09/2025 17:10

I think you are reading a bit too much into my original post! I’m not expecting a theatre to take into account other costs. And I’ve said that I have paid huge amounts for shows previously. I’m not unaware of what things cost and am privileged enough to be able to afford it.

My point was that this type of show is beyond the reach of people on average incomes even as a one off treat - I think that has changed in recent years and is a shame. Yes of course there are last minute cheap options available but that just isn’t practicable when you have to organise travel, other people etc - we can’t all be spontaneous!

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No, I still don’t agree with you so to add to my post earlier, in the early 00’s pretty much up until Covid, west end tickets were expensive for the good seats: £70 - £200. It’s never been a cheap activity, although there’s always been deals. As wages have gone up and will continue to go up it will always be an affordable treat to those of us on average incomes who love the theatre experience so I don’t think there’s been a change.

VanCleefArpels · 24/09/2025 22:37

Horsie · 24/09/2025 21:56

Seats in the last few days of October are much cheaper. I just checked.

It’s for our traditional (20 years plus) Christmas outing…

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VanCleefArpels · 24/09/2025 22:35

RubyFlewToo · 24/09/2025 22:10

I’ve just looked and can’t see a ticket over £182. 🤔 and most stalls seats are £88. Can you look at different dates maybe?

Not terribly festive in November!! I take your point but if we are getting to the point of saying £180 is a bargain then we’re in trouble!!

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RubyFlewToo · 24/09/2025 22:10

VanCleefArpels · 24/09/2025 12:43

Elf the Musical is back for the festive season. Fabulous! Let’s book……

Stalls seats £295/300
Circle seats £200 / £250

With train fares (not far away commuter belt) plus maybe a quick pizza afterwards a family of four will be spending a four figure sum for a night at the theatre. The best part of a month’s salary for many ordinary people.

How can this be sustainable?

IABU - suck it up, it’s not compulsory
IANBU - this kind of pricing will be the death of West End Theatre

I’ve just looked and can’t see a ticket over £182. 🤔 and most stalls seats are £88. Can you look at different dates maybe?

To think that West End Theatre is going to perish due to over pricing?
To think that West End Theatre is going to perish due to over pricing?
MasterBeth · 24/09/2025 22:04

Those prices are ridiculous, but they'll sell.

So, no, they're not going to perish. They going to make a whole heap of money from a short season of a Christmas show.

But there'll be loads of other great Christmas shows you can go and see for far less money.

Horsie · 24/09/2025 21:56

Seats in the last few days of October are much cheaper. I just checked.

SpottyAardvark · 24/09/2025 21:55

The people who run these businesses are not stupid. As with hotels & airlines, they set their pricing at levels which their analysis indicates their customers will be prepared to pay. This pricing will be based on data not guesswork. And if they get it wrong and the theatre is half empty, they will soon change their prices.

Clearinguptheclutter · 24/09/2025 21:52

It’s ridiculous but it won’t be the death of the industry as there are plenty of people willing to pay. Unfortunately the vast majority of us will be priced out

CoffeeCantata · 24/09/2025 21:44

VanCleefArpels · 24/09/2025 21:05

The showing of theatre productions in cinemas is a brilliant democratisation of drama.

I agree. I saw a streaming of A Woman of no Importance from the NationalTheatre and not only did I get the most perfect view of the whole production, but there’s always a great interval feature too - interviews or a historical topic connected with the play. Beats struggling to the bar!

And I’ve loved the streamed operas too. All this for £15 pre Covid!

VanCleefArpels · 24/09/2025 21:05

CoffeeCantata · 24/09/2025 18:55

Me neither!

I just cannot get my head around paying a hundred quid per person for a theatre ticket. And I say 5hat as an Eng Lit graduate.

I love drama, but I’d watch a film, dvd or something o iPlayer. I live on a different planet to people who can afford theatre prices.

The showing of theatre productions in cinemas is a brilliant democratisation of drama.

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