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Violet Affleck and mask mandates

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aold · 24/09/2025 09:44

AIBU think that this shouldn’t be encouraged? Violet Affleck advocating for mask mandates. Daughter of Jennifer Garner and Ben Affleck. Speaking about the importance of masks. Says we should still be wearing them to curb the spread of Covid 19.
Shouldn’t a young privileged woman be enjoying her youth? Is there a reason for fit healthy people like her to still walk around in masks?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15127909/violet-affleck-mask-mandates-long-covid-ben-jennifer-garner.html

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GPproblems · 24/09/2025 14:04

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/09/2025 14:02

I was pregnant during the first lockdown and during every pregnancy appointment my doctor invited me to remove my mask as soon as the door was closed because he thought they were absolutely pointless.

Ah so this one experience means masks mean nothing.

Not because he assumed you were both Covid free, in a sanitised environment and safe for the short appointment. Definitely not

applegingermint · 24/09/2025 14:03

GPproblems · 24/09/2025 13:55

You cannot “train” your immune system by repeatedly getting poorly.

Isn’t that precisely how the immune system works?

Your immune system is constantly in defensive mode against pathogens you encounter daily. You won’t notice it most of the time apart from the occasional “fighting off something” feeling.

The absence of exposure to circulating pathogens is one of the reasons there’s been spikes in RSV and flu since Covid.

Ddakji · 24/09/2025 14:03

Well, once you get away from the DM headline and the MN frothing. She makes an interesting point that’s worthy of discussion - but of course that can’t be allowed because she has famous parents.

As for all the Luddites on this thread. What an embarrassment you are. We’d still be living in mud huts the way some of you seem to think. Terrified of progress and that a future generation might have things better because of filtered air in hospitals. You can’t bear that idea, can you? Prevention being better than cure.

A prime contender for “thread showing the worst of MN”.

GPproblems · 24/09/2025 14:02

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/09/2025 14:00

That literally the rationale for not vaccinating children against chicken pox in France. Because having children infected with the chicken pox virus roaming around boosts immunity in older and weaker populations.

Okay? That doesn’t mean that we all need to be catching every virus and infection going! Maybe if we all cared more for others we’d have a better society.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/09/2025 14:02

I was pregnant during the first lockdown and during every pregnancy appointment my doctor invited me to remove my mask as soon as the door was closed because he thought they were absolutely pointless.

Dopeydoraz · 24/09/2025 14:01

I intensely dislike people who wear masks. I hated the mask wearing during Covid.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/09/2025 14:01

Turningworld · 24/09/2025 13:59

people can change to clear masks when needed.

Or they can just not wear masks because there is no pandemic.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/09/2025 14:00

GPproblems · 24/09/2025 13:57

You’re trying to suggest that exposure to germs makes your immune system stronger. That’s not the case.

That literally the rationale for not vaccinating children against chicken pox in France. Because having children infected with the chicken pox virus roaming around boosts immunity in older and weaker populations.

Turningworld · 24/09/2025 13:59

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/09/2025 13:57

How does this work if you need everyone to not be wearing a mask if you are to be able to communicate with them?

people can change to clear masks when needed.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/09/2025 13:59

GPproblems · 24/09/2025 13:57

It’s “health anxiety” to have chronic health issues and an immunocompromised father?

Lots of people are in this position and were so long before the pandemic. It's only since the pandemic that some people seem to think they'll be at extra special risk of dying if everyone else doesn't mask up, even now the pandemic is thankfully over. So, yes.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/09/2025 13:57

Turningworld · 24/09/2025 13:56

Mask mandates have always had exemptions for people who cannot wear masks or need others to take them off to communicate. There are also clear masks. I have a severe hearing impairment myself I still support mask mandates in hospitals.

How does this work if you need everyone to not be wearing a mask if you are to be able to communicate with them?

GPproblems · 24/09/2025 13:57

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/09/2025 13:57

The rest of us aren't responsible for alleviating your health anxiety.

It’s “health anxiety” to have chronic health issues and an immunocompromised father?

GPproblems · 24/09/2025 13:57

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/09/2025 13:55

That's...not what I said.

You’re trying to suggest that exposure to germs makes your immune system stronger. That’s not the case.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/09/2025 13:57

GPproblems · 24/09/2025 13:47

It should be a fine, or refusal to board.

I find anti-maskers hilarious at best and downright childish at worst.

The rest of us aren't responsible for alleviating your health anxiety.

Turningworld · 24/09/2025 13:56

Morningsleepin · 24/09/2025 13:54

Deaf people, like myself, suffer greatly when everyone is wearing a mask and they can be quite awful for asthma sufferers. I presume that there are sound medical reasons for enforcing masks in hospitals

Mask mandates have always had exemptions for people who cannot wear masks or need others to take them off to communicate. There are also clear masks. I have a severe hearing impairment myself I still support mask mandates in hospitals.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/09/2025 13:55

GPproblems · 24/09/2025 13:55

You cannot “train” your immune system by repeatedly getting poorly.

That's...not what I said.

GPproblems · 24/09/2025 13:55

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 24/09/2025 13:53

Ok, what will you do when people take them off once they're on, and how will this fining system work- do you think the driver will take the details? Police on every bus, train and tram? Would there still be an exemption system like last time?

Do remember that the last time we had mask rules in various public spaces in the UK, they often werent being enforced. Various shops said in December 2021 that it wasn't going to be theirs and their staff's responsibility. It imposes a considerable cost, often to private businesses who haven't signed up for it and aren't given resources to enforce it.

Frankly I don’t care. I’m sick of selfish bastards getting everyone else poorly.

GPproblems · 24/09/2025 13:55

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/09/2025 13:54

So does not being regularly exposed to a normal level of germs.

You cannot “train” your immune system by repeatedly getting poorly.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/09/2025 13:54

Turningworld · 24/09/2025 13:53

I'm afraid that isn't how it works. You likely had at least one covid infection, whether you realised it or not, it's not always obvious. It only takes one infection to suppress the immune system for several months after infection and increase susceptibility to secondary infections. Repeat infections cause the same thing to happen again and increase the risk of various long term issues.

So does not being regularly exposed to a normal level of germs.

Turningworld · 24/09/2025 13:54

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 24/09/2025 10:39

So if she’s not advocating for forced masks by saying those quoted words what do you think she is advocating for. How do we access our right to ‘filtered air?’

HEPA air filters in public buildings. They are not masks you wouldn't even be any more aware of them than you are of air conditioning.

Morningsleepin · 24/09/2025 13:54

Deaf people, like myself, suffer greatly when everyone is wearing a mask and they can be quite awful for asthma sufferers. I presume that there are sound medical reasons for enforcing masks in hospitals

Needmorelego · 24/09/2025 13:53

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/09/2025 13:52

Perhaps one of her teachers would be better placed to address the UN about it then.

Maybe it was a group thing? I have no idea. Maybe she was the best from her class at speech giving. I have no idea.
If her name was Jane Smith would this thread even exist? I doubt it.

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 24/09/2025 13:53

GPproblems · 24/09/2025 13:47

It should be a fine, or refusal to board.

I find anti-maskers hilarious at best and downright childish at worst.

Ok, what will you do when people take them off once they're on, and how will this fining system work- do you think the driver will take the details? Police on every bus, train and tram? Would there still be an exemption system like last time?

Do remember that the last time we had mask rules in various public spaces in the UK, they often werent being enforced. Various shops said in December 2021 that it wasn't going to be theirs and their staff's responsibility. It imposes a considerable cost, often to private businesses who haven't signed up for it and aren't given resources to enforce it.

loulouljh · 24/09/2025 13:53

If she wants to wear one she can crack on.

Turningworld · 24/09/2025 13:53

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/09/2025 13:50

I certainly didn't get repeat COVID infections and neither did my husband, but we certainly caught other things more easily after social distancing.

I'm afraid that isn't how it works. You likely had at least one covid infection, whether you realised it or not, it's not always obvious. It only takes one infection to suppress the immune system for several months after infection and increase susceptibility to secondary infections. Repeat infections cause the same thing to happen again and increase the risk of various long term issues.

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