Violet Affleck and mask mandates

Sorry, I meant officially, like WHO.

Plenty of celebs' children are doing worthwhile things, we just don't hear about them, because they are doing rather than talking.

Bruce Springsteen's son is a firefighter. Willem Dafoe's son is an environmental researcher. Anna Wintour's son is a doctor. Jamie Oliver's daughter is a student nurse. Rowan Atkinson's son is in the army. Gordon Ramsay's daughter is a police officer and his son is a royal marine.

There must be loads more. They just aren't making a big song and dance about it, which is the point.

It depends. There are probably alot more cases now than there were at some points in 2020 or 2021. I would have more faith in my doctor not having covid whilst treating my newborn earlier in the pandemic than I would do now.

I have no idea how university works (as i never went) and even less knowledge of the American university system so I can't really say if she is "qualified" enough to speak but I have seen occasions where university students give speeches or presentations before.
I doubt Violet Affleck is the first Yale student to speak at the UN or other similar organisations.

When the generation who are now children grow up, they're not necessarily all going to feel particularly warmly towards the generation who decided that covid was too depressing, boring and expensive to do anything about, so those children all had multiple covid infections before they even left school. They'll know there were plenty of mitigations other than masks that could have been tried, and that governments didn't even try.

So those who are advocating these masks. Are you also for the facial recognition that more and more shops are using? Sainsburys are currently trialling it in London and Bath and if its successful will be rolling it out to other stores.

I'm torn. I despise mask mandates. On the other hand, it is nice to see a celebrity offspring interested in something other than modelling or acting (poorly) I hope she will learn more as she grows up, and realises that authoritarianism isn't the answer.

No.

I remember how the ppl who were exempt were treated.

Violet was introduced to the panel as "a youth advocate, [the] voice of gen Z, [a] climate champion and [a] clean indoor air advocate".

Maybe it’s the post Greta Thunberg world we live in, just allowing unqualified but passionate youths in to talk to them. I’m sure MN could field an army of passionate if rather unknowledgeable people to talk on a variety of topics. We used to have someone who used to pop up regularly to post very passionately about prions. We could send her first. 👍

Yep. Sorry that wasn't aimed at you but the PP who said they hate people wearing masks. Like why? How does someone else's choice to mask up affect them. As I said we know someone who masks up because they're a carer for a family member with cancer on chemo. I've no doubt they've had people tut at them for being paranoid over covid when they don't have the first clue why they wear one. It's just bizarre. If someone is doing something that doesn't impact you in the slightest. Keep moving.

Unfortunately the scientific reality of covid is that it is something significantly more than just a cold. As someone generally focused on reality over feel-good ideology, I find that hard to ignore. I think children in particular should have clean air in schools in the same way they have clean water and buildings without asbestos or mould.

The sorts of bugs that are good for us are not the same ones that make us ill. And even if they were we would clearly need to draw the line somewhere - no one would suggest tetanus or polio are good for the immune system. Covid is not really on the 'just a cold' side of that line, even if the short-term symptoms are like a cold. It's the damage it does underneath that's the concern, so even if we never have another mask mandate outside of medical settings we are making a mistake as a society doing nothing about it at all.

Me and my husband have both had shingles. 0/10 would not recommend.

She’s still an undergraduate student with no clout on the topic. I’m sure they could listen to an actual expert in the field if they needed someone. Why are they indulging her?

One of the reasons we did the same. I also wasn't very keen on the idea that my DC ought to be collateral to reduce the risk for other people, even though I caught wild CP myself and am therefore one of that group.

I mask in supermarkets/crowded places before Christmas - see above, nothing enrages me more than being ill when I'm off work. I'm not scared of dying, my immune system is robust - I just want to be able to host my family without feeling doggo/infecting them, then enjoy a break.

I'm all for normalising people taking really simple measures to protect the stuff that matters to them - be that their health, their loved ones, their time off work... I would never judge anyone for wearing a mask.

OP, I've just read all your posts in this thread on the trot, and your argument is all over the place. It's not even cogent enough to be inconsistent.

What are you actually trying to get over here?

Minor point, but aren’t we still in a pandemic?

It’s actually why we privately vaccinated ours against chicken pox. I figured it was only a matter of time before the UK added it to the schedule and I didn’t want the higher long term risk of shingles for them.

Yes, I think that's why France hasn't added it to the vaccination schedule.

Interestingly in countries that give the MMRV, there’s worries about the cohorts who have caught wild chickenpox as vaccination rises.

With wild chickenpox, the virus remains dormant in the body. For those people, there won’t be naturally high circulating levels of chicken pox to boost their naturally acquired immunity putting them at greater risk of shingles.

When I am Queen, I will issue a mask mandate annually from 1 December until Christmas Day, so I don't end up spending the two precious weeks of the year when my whole business shuts down and there are no work pressures, laid up with a fucking cold/covid/the flu.

So I'm with her for 24 days of the year.

Bit muchy for the remaining 341 days but it's a free world and she can say, do and wear what she likes. We don't have to agree or listen.

Why? How does it affect you in any way?

No I don't mask. Just find it intriguing why the sight of a mask on someone else who's private medical details you don't know triggers some people so much.

Why would he assume we were both COVID free in the middle of a pandemic? Makes far more sense to assume people are COVID free and don't need to wear masks now than it did in 2020.

Erm, yes? They literally let toddlers suffer from chicken pox in order to care for other groups by exposing them to low levels of the virus to boost their immune systems. This policy is for the benefit of elderly and clinically vulnerable people, not for the benefit of the children themselves. (Which I discovered only after both mine had a nasty bout of chicken pox.)