Going into the office 5 days a week!

Add me and my team to those numbers as well.

Sigh, my DH is facilities too and has just been made redundant from a job where he was hybrid. Hate the fact he's likely to have to be in the office full-time when he gets a new role.

Your inability to produce a coherent argument about why working from home is soo productive or an example of a job with a limited, specific number of daily tasks to be completed without resorting to insults and hyperbole is clear.

Your interpretation of what I wrote is poor as well. I didn't say my job was "hard work". I said it wasn't the type of work that fits into the category of "well I've dealt with my daily allotted cases, I'll just stop working now"

My point is I’m no exception to the rule. Plenty of people work from home efficiently, including most of my team and posters on this thread. I don’t know why you find it so hard to believe.

OK, sure. You must be the exception to the rule then.

Or perhaps they've tried WFH and they simply don't like it.

Rubbish. I’m an NHS consultant who works entirely remotely. I also do various policy, teaching and legal work - also from home. I am more efficient at home without office distractions. It certainly hasn’t held me back with career progression either!

It really depends on the job and the person.

I’m not engaging in an argument. I’ve told you what I meant which was not intended to cause any upset or debate at all. You have just misunderstood as I have already explained. God knows what is up with some people on here 🙄

I tend to agree with this too @TottenhamCake although I do think it can depend on the type of job.
if you’re very managerial and client facing then I think being amongst others in your team is good. If you’re in finance or R&D or something where you’re creating a report/ spreadsheet/ piece of copy - then having 6 hours uninterrupted is very productive.

but generally if I had zero commute and the chance to progress I would be jumping at it.

I always laugh at the claim that people are more productive at home. Anyone who has actually worked for a company who allows it and is actually honest, knows that this is absolute nonsense.

I left my job at a local authority (county council) which was fully remote, as I couldn't deal with colleagues who were impossible to reach all the time. It was well known that people were using the time doing housework, shopping or running errands. I also think it is impossible to get the same kind of career development and experience when you aren't working side by side with colleagues and able to talk things through or learn from them.

Its up to you, but if this is a dealbreaker for you I would say that career progression isn't really your thing....

How much difference does it make really? A 2 minute drive ? How long does it take you to set up at home each morning. Better division between home and work life. Popping back home at lunchtime if needs be. Sure you can’t hang out the washing and unload the dishwasher while you work but you could accommodate that if you put your mind to it . Take it and see how your career path develops .

Your disdain for those who aren't licking the boot with 8 hours of performative presenteeism a day is clear in this post. I'm sorry your job is hard work but not every job is, or has to be. That doesn't make people bad at their job.

Whilst I really enjoy WFH, my reluctance to return to the office for more days is mainly financial, and time spent travelling (£7k plus and 3 hours a day). If I could work locally for a similar salary but more days in the office, I would consider it.

Have I?

You said " I hope that the change in work landscape from COVID has really helped disabled people have greater opportunities to work in an environment that works for them."

I am asking your opinion if you think an enforced 5 days a week in the office is the way to do that.

🙄 Are people not allowed to talk about the parts of the job they like without worrying they might upset people who don’t have those parts?

If it’s only a 2 minute drive to the office I hope you’d be walking rather than driving.

I genuinely have a day off today, but I wonder how many of the wfh fans here are working....

So you’re so much more relaxed at home. That’s lovely. What about people in jobs that can’t be done from home - I wonder how relaxed they are. I think you could have worded your post better - you sound not especially interested in being too productive.

I feel the same, worked from home for a few years, thought I would loathe being back in the office but I actually much prefer it now, it’s the demarcation between work and home that I really appreciate now, I don’t have that dread feeling when I pass my old office at home which is now a lovely dressing room for me! and I get that Friday feeling when I get home now, never had that when I walked down the stairs after finishing work.

No, I was answering a specific person who said they wouldn’t take a job that wasn’t WFH even if it was next door and I asked why. They said they were disabled and I said I hoped that they now had more opportunities because WFH is accepted across a lot of employers and certainly more than pre covid.

You have totally misunderstood the comments.

I have noticed an increasing number of friends and colleagues having a lottle slip of the tongue and referring to their wfh days as their "day off". If I'm seeing that, employers are too.

Take the job , I wish all my jobs had had a 2 min drive to and from work. I doubt you will notice the difference in terms of home life and with prospect of career progression is a no brainer.

Unpaid overtime (as and when required by role) and 45 minute (minium) drive to and from work has been my norm.

the only downside I can really see are having to make lunches (but you're that close you could go home for food), and needing to wear work clothes 5 days a week!

I'm a solicitor in private practice (although on holiday today) it would be ridiculous and unimaginable that I would only work on and complete a specfic number of files and not look at anything after that.

I can imagine however that somewhere like the variuous public agencies that I have to interact with that one might get away with only dealing with say 6 cases a day rather than working the contracted hours, and ignore the back log piling up.

Your point about the actual hours is irrelevant and you're missing the point- unless of course your jobs were "make a 100 widgets per day in however long or short a time it takes you to make 100 widgets" in which case fine- make your 100 widgets as fast as you can, then leave or stay, make more and ask for a productivity bonus.

Do you think that a mandatory enforced 5 days a week in the office across the board with no explanation greater than "because the employer said so" is really going to help disabled people have greater opportunities to work in an environment that works for them?