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Trump on autism

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BeHappySloth · 22/09/2025 21:59

Sorry if there is another thread - I did look.

I mean, wtf??!!

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NewWin · 23/09/2025 08:03

I can't bear him. Why is it the women's 'fault' every fucking time!!!

I have 2 kids with 2 different dads. Took paracetamol in both pregnancies. Both vaccinated to the hilt 😁 My ex husband is most definitely autistic, and my eldest is AuDHD. My youngest is NT. Me and my husband and NT. It is genetic. It's no one's fault.

My eldest is amazing, both my kids are, but we had a rough road at times. We didn't, and don't, need a cure for him. He doesn't need to be cured. We needed some understanding from school, some useable support strategies, a diagnosis before the age of 20 (that I didn't have to pay for), access to ADHD meds on the NHS, a wait list that is not 4 years long, mental health support, and a society that accommodate difference.

Fuck Trump

ChristmasMiracleBaby · 23/09/2025 07:55

Really hope this doesn't prevent women taking paracetamol for fever in pregnancy, fever is much more dangerous to your baby than a few doses of painkiller.
I'm neurodivergent and my son is an exact copy of me as a child in behaviour so pretty sure it's genetic..

LillyPJ · 23/09/2025 07:53

Treeeep · 23/09/2025 07:43

I think it’s also the environment which is making autism more noticeable.

For example, classrooms are overwhelming, there’s too much stimulation, bright colours, transitions, school trips, screens, expectations for group work etc. It was a lot easier when you just sat individually at a desk and listened to the teacher.

Good point. I used to teach and went to a training day once. The teacher there set up a lesson designed to stimulate and inspire everyone in a class. There were tactile objects on the table, background music, visual displays and things to read. She was also moving around, talking, giving instructions and encouragement etc. I felt so overwhelmed I could have cried. I'm not autistic.

TooTooMuchEverything · 23/09/2025 07:50

Slipperfairy · 23/09/2025 07:08

It's a shame they haven't found a link between men who take painkillers and their autistic offspring. Then it wouldn't just be pregnant women who have to be in pain.

Oh, wouldn’t it be wonderful!

LillyPJ · 23/09/2025 07:46

Westfacing · 23/09/2025 07:27

I can't bear to see or hear more than a few seconds of Trump so didn't watch the whole news item - did I hear him say that women should "tough it out" in relation to having a fever?

Probably. I turned over for the same reason you did. His face and his voice turn my stomach. And what he says is sickening too.

Robotindisguise · 23/09/2025 07:45

TigerRag · 23/09/2025 07:42

I thought the older father theory was because they usually have Autism themselves

Not heard the old sperm theory

Oh that one’s well understood:

www.kcl.ac.uk/archive/news/ioppn/records/2013/march/older-grandfathers-autism-risk

KimberleyClark · 23/09/2025 07:43

BeHappySloth · 22/09/2025 22:38

I agree. The Democrats were far from perfect but the mind boggles at the idea that anyone could genuinely believe that Trump would make a better president than Harris.

Especially as he ‘d already been President once and was so bad that a senile old man was elected to replace him.

Treeeep · 23/09/2025 07:43

I think it’s also the environment which is making autism more noticeable.

For example, classrooms are overwhelming, there’s too much stimulation, bright colours, transitions, school trips, screens, expectations for group work etc. It was a lot easier when you just sat individually at a desk and listened to the teacher.

TigerRag · 23/09/2025 07:42

Tigerhoods · 23/09/2025 06:17

Its obvious to anyone who notices stuff that autism runs in families. There may also be a link to paracetamol. I believe there is also a proven link to older fathers ... funny that the old sperm theory does not seem to appeal to these wrinkly old republicans!

I thought the older father theory was because they usually have Autism themselves

Not heard the old sperm theory

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 23/09/2025 07:40

Angryhag · 22/09/2025 22:17

The cause of autism is complex genetic. I have an autistic (adult) child and I didn’t touch any paracetamol or ibuprofen or indeed any drug at all during pregnancy.

Only yesterday I saw an article where scientists said they'd found gene markers for several 'psychiatric conditions', including ADHD and ASC. Anecdotally, it's patently related to genes as it runs in families and is far more common in babies born to older fathers, in particular.

I had flu in my first trimester and alternated both drugs for about 2-3 days. My DS does not have ASC. I would suggest he'd have come to more harm if I'd allowed myself to stay up at the 103/104 degrees my body was running at!

Ughtrxingtogetbetter · 23/09/2025 07:35

RayonSunrise · 22/09/2025 22:11

I have found it curious that the Trump administration is referring to a specific brand name (Tylenol), not the American generic name (Acetaminophen).

Has Johnson & Johnson done something to piss Trump off? Maybe they’ve not raised their overseas drugs prices enough for him?

He made several attempts to pronounce the generic name and couldn’t. So then went with a brand name. Mind boggling not to sort it out before.

The FDA has warned of a possible association. That would obviously warrant more research.

AliceMaforethought · 23/09/2025 07:32

Ablondiebutagoody · 22/09/2025 22:17

Because the Democrats put up a senile old man and then tried to gaslight the American people that everything was fine.

Trump is also a senile old man, so your point makes no sense. Also, the Americans could have voted for Kamala. People get the government they deserve.

Westfacing · 23/09/2025 07:27

I can't bear to see or hear more than a few seconds of Trump so didn't watch the whole news item - did I hear him say that women should "tough it out" in relation to having a fever?

LillyPJ · 23/09/2025 07:20

I hope he gets sued. The trouble is that even if/when he's proved to be wrong, loads of his supporters will still believe him and claim it's all a conspiracy. Trump is an ignorant and dangerous man with too much power and he's determined to become even more powerful. It was a sad day for us all when he got elected .

Greysowhat · 23/09/2025 07:17

Slipperfairy · 23/09/2025 07:08

It's a shame they haven't found a link between men who take painkillers and their autistic offspring. Then it wouldn't just be pregnant women who have to be in pain.

That's because there isn't any link between anyone taking pain relief and autism.

Lourdes12 · 23/09/2025 07:15

Croakymccroakyvoice · 22/09/2025 22:15

Oh no, just seen him saying something incomprehensible about vaccines too.

He did blame it on vaccines too, at the very end of the interview

Bruisername · 23/09/2025 07:12

bluewanda · 22/09/2025 22:58

i had a chest infection when pregnant and took antibiotics and paracetamol. I feel terrible taking them at the time and even now I wonder if my son’s troubles are my fault.

@Bruisername kindly, why would it be your fault? Those are both safe medications to take when pregnant and millions of women do!

Mothers guilt! My rational mind knows it’s nothing I did

typicaltuesdaynight · 23/09/2025 07:09

A very very dangerous man, I believe he hates women

Slipperfairy · 23/09/2025 07:09

PrissyGalore · 23/09/2025 07:06

What do you mean? The effect on the immune system is an immune response-similar to the illness which means it has a protective effect on subsequent infections. .

I'd ignore. Trump has all the anti-vaxxers wetting themselves with excitement today

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 23/09/2025 07:08

MySweetMaggie · 23/09/2025 06:35

I see your point. It will be so interesting to see the effect on the immune system from vaccinations and what, if any, side effects there are. I'm excited to have all the information.

Oh, no fear of that, they will stop keeping statistics on the effects of vaccinations, saying they are a waste of time and money, just like they have stopped keeping statistics on hunger in Americans in 2025, or on current inflation rates, for example, because they don’t want the facts to be known. Who needs experts and facts when you’ve got ignorant toadies?

CanadaNotAMum · 23/09/2025 07:08

MySweetMaggie · 23/09/2025 04:38

It's ok to disagree. There is a lot of deliberate misinformation about him out there, so I get your opinion and know it is common. We will only know when these studies have been done and the results shown, I guess. I don't have to be right, you can still be correct and that's ok too. I'm not trying to convince anyone. I wanted to throw out a difference of opinion on here that's all. These things become an echo chamber and I have a different view.

When someone expresses an opinion on a thread like this, it’s normal to talk about why you have that opinion. That’s what the poster seems to be asking you.

Slipperfairy · 23/09/2025 07:08

It's a shame they haven't found a link between men who take painkillers and their autistic offspring. Then it wouldn't just be pregnant women who have to be in pain.

PrissyGalore · 23/09/2025 07:06

MySweetMaggie · 23/09/2025 06:35

I see your point. It will be so interesting to see the effect on the immune system from vaccinations and what, if any, side effects there are. I'm excited to have all the information.

What do you mean? The effect on the immune system is an immune response-similar to the illness which means it has a protective effect on subsequent infections. .

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 23/09/2025 07:01

vodkaredbullgirl · 22/09/2025 22:37

As useful as a chocolate teapot

But far, far, far more dangerous.

Thegreyhound · 23/09/2025 06:55

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Calling autism an epidemic implies that it is a disease- extremely offensive and way off base.