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Mrsmunchofmunchington · 2025-09-22T19:10:32+00:00

I went out for lunch today with a friend. Well, at least we tried to have lunch. All three places, two pubs and one cafe, were not suitable for women because you needed a penis to get into them or to use the toilet. We ended up coming back to my home instead. AIBU to think that everywhere should offer equal service to women? Or is it my fault for not checking in advance that I could eat there without a penis? Should I have researched on tripadvisor? Am I too entitled expecting businesses to ensure non penis having people can pay to eat lunch at their establishment? Day in the life of a disabled person.

SerendipityJane · 23/09/2025 16:46

CharlieKirkRIP · 23/09/2025 16:39

Why not just say you meant disabled instead of lying and saying it was because you are a woman that you were not catered for?

🙄

Because generally people aren't interested in disabled issues (just read the press). However they are obsessed with gender.

SerendipityJane · 23/09/2025 16:45

SweetTalkinWookie · 23/09/2025 16:36

...not really the point. And the more I think about it, it's probably far fewer than half that would be able to accommodate my chair to sit and eat at a table.

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The PP totally ignored the question of actually wheeling up to any of these 15.

Sidebeforeself · 23/09/2025 16:40

Op - you’ve spoilt your very valid point by making an unnecessary comparison and then sneering at people who didnt immediately understand it. No need to take your frustrations out on people on here

CharlieKirkRIP · 23/09/2025 16:39

Why not just say you meant disabled instead of lying and saying it was because you are a woman that you were not catered for?

🙄

SweetTalkinWookie · 23/09/2025 16:36

incognitomouse · 23/09/2025 16:28

But there's still a choice of 15 you could go to?

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...not really the point. And the more I think about it, it's probably far fewer than half that would be able to accommodate my chair to sit and eat at a table.

rwalker · 23/09/2025 16:35

So basically 3 places didn’t gave disabled access

nothing to do with penises

StinkyCheeseMoose · 23/09/2025 16:31

Years ago, I accidentally walked into the men only bar in a golf club. It was a bit awkward, but I quickly left and no harm was done.

Since then, I have literally never had a problem...

Boomer55 · 23/09/2025 16:30

VickyEadieofThigh · 22/09/2025 20:15

I'm 67. This has NEVER happened to me.

Nor me. I must, as a woman with disabilities, have led a sheltered life. 🙄

incognitomouse · 23/09/2025 16:28

SweetTalkinWookie · 23/09/2025 13:32

My plans changed today, and I need to grab some lunch in town.

From my office, I can see 30+ places to do that. But at least half of them were inaccessible when I was a wheelchair user.

But there's still a choice of 15 you could go to?

SerendipityJane · 23/09/2025 16:17

Things only change when you have money make noise.

SerendipityJane · 23/09/2025 16:16

All public pavements have dropped kerbs to allow wheelchairs to cross the road easily.

No they don't.

And where they do, what happens when it's blocked by a car "for a few seconds" ?

MissFitss · 23/09/2025 16:11

nomas · 23/09/2025 14:35

The thread is about disabled people.

Why don’t you start your own about the challenges of being intolerant?

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The thread is about disabled people.
Why don’t you start your own about the challenges of being intolerant?

Why don't you start behaving reasonably and accepting that hidden health issues can cause the same issues- not being able to eat lunch wherever you fancy?

There are several posters here who are coeliac or can't eat 'normal food.

They have exactly the same issues as the OP, namely they cannot eat in some pubs and cafes. Yes, they can walk in but if the menu is off limits they will have to leave.

I don't know if you simply can't see the similarity or what.

MissFitss · 23/09/2025 16:06

All public pavements have dropped kerbs to allow wheelchairs to cross the road easily.

They don't.

Maybe in large towns but if you go small villages they do not all have dropped kerbs

moresoup · 23/09/2025 16:05

LillyPJ · 23/09/2025 15:56

No, of course not. But, for example, if someone's in a wheelchair they can't go up kerbs or a road gravel or over a stile. Do you suggest that we get rid of all kerbs, gravel and stiles? No matter how hard we try, we will never be able to remove all obstacles or enable wheelchair users to be able to do everything that everyone else does. The same goes for people with other disabilities. With the best will in the world, it is impossible to make everything accessible to all.

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I don't expect these changes to happen overnight to make everywhere accessible. But of course I expect that when things are constructed or repaired then designing them for accessibility is factored in

nomas · 23/09/2025 16:02

LillyPJ · 23/09/2025 15:56

No, of course not. But, for example, if someone's in a wheelchair they can't go up kerbs or a road gravel or over a stile. Do you suggest that we get rid of all kerbs, gravel and stiles? No matter how hard we try, we will never be able to remove all obstacles or enable wheelchair users to be able to do everything that everyone else does. The same goes for people with other disabilities. With the best will in the world, it is impossible to make everything accessible to all.

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All public pavements have dropped kerbs to allow wheelchairs to cross the road easily.

Why do you think don't?

And why should disabled people just accept that it's 'impossible to make everything accessible to all' when they can keep flagging it to the businesses?

Things only change when you make noise.

LillyPJ · 23/09/2025 15:56

nomas · 23/09/2025 14:33

I think you’re missing the point, disabled people
shouldn’t have to rely on the kindness of strangers.

They should be able to be independent.

Would you want to look for stranger to help you everywhere you went?

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No, of course not. But, for example, if someone's in a wheelchair they can't go up kerbs or a road gravel or over a stile. Do you suggest that we get rid of all kerbs, gravel and stiles? No matter how hard we try, we will never be able to remove all obstacles or enable wheelchair users to be able to do everything that everyone else does. The same goes for people with other disabilities. With the best will in the world, it is impossible to make everything accessible to all.

nomas · 23/09/2025 14:46

TallulahLikesHoola · 23/09/2025 14:45

Really? It's my responsibility to check hotels are meeting fire regulations? Since when!?
Do I get a clip board and a hat and badge?! 😆

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What on earth are you on about? Who said you have to do anything?

MeatballMenu · 23/09/2025 14:45

Coffeetime25 · 23/09/2025 14:13

is this a joke thread or something seriously

Gosh, if only there was some way you could find that out?

Did you not think that there might be some sort of clue in the 300+ comments before yours?

TallulahLikesHoola · 23/09/2025 14:45

nomas · 23/09/2025 11:53

They can email back and explain can't they?

If it were left to you, things would never get better.

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Really? It's my responsibility to check hotels are meeting fire regulations? Since when!?
Do I get a clip board and a hat and badge?! 😆

nomas · 23/09/2025 14:35

MissFitss · 23/09/2025 14:32

Not everything has to be about everyone.

Can you see the irony in that?

If other people post with their own challenges when eating out you're saying that doesn't matter . Well, it does, because we're talking about the same thing- people not being able to access food at all venues for different medical reasons.

My post It wasn't 'nullified'.

It was balanced.

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The thread is about disabled people.

Why don’t you start your own about the challenges of being intolerant?

nomas · 23/09/2025 14:33

LillyPJ · 23/09/2025 14:10

By 'we' I meant society in general, from the government making laws down to individual venues, who obviously want to maximize the number of customers. Also individuals - if I saw somebody in a wheelchair struggling to get up a ramp or through a doorway, I'd ask if they'd like help and I suspect most people would.

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I think you’re missing the point, disabled people
shouldn’t have to rely on the kindness of strangers.

They should be able to be independent.

Would you want to look for stranger to help you everywhere you went?

MissFitss · 23/09/2025 14:32

nomas · 23/09/2025 13:32

I did but it was kind of nullified by the rest of your post in which you sighed and moaned that you can't just pop to restaurants to yourself.

If you mean that every place serving food has to be able to cater for a huge range of food intolerances, that's not realistic.

No, I don't mean that. I am just addressing's OP issue, which is about accessibility not food intolerances. Not everything has to be about everyone.

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Not everything has to be about everyone.

Can you see the irony in that?

If other people post with their own challenges when eating out you're saying that doesn't matter . Well, it does, because we're talking about the same thing- people not being able to access food at all venues for different medical reasons.

My post It wasn't 'nullified'.

It was balanced.

SerendipityJane · 23/09/2025 14:26

Your point was lost because 'women' and 'the disabled' aren't really comparable groups for the simple fact that women make up 51% of the population.

I would suggest the hierarchy goes:

Able-bodied men
v
Able bodied women
v
Able bodied children
v
Disabled men and women
v
Disabled children

Notice how both able bodied women and the disabled sit below men.

Coffeetime25 · 23/09/2025 14:13

is this a joke thread or something seriously

LillyPJ · 23/09/2025 14:10

nomas · 23/09/2025 13:11

Who is 'we'?

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By 'we' I meant society in general, from the government making laws down to individual venues, who obviously want to maximize the number of customers. Also individuals - if I saw somebody in a wheelchair struggling to get up a ramp or through a doorway, I'd ask if they'd like help and I suspect most people would.