Page 6 | Tried three places for lunch today and none cater for women

Muffinmam · 23/09/2025 19:30

sosorryimnotsorry · 23/09/2025 19:17

But it made you read it! When lots wouldn’t have bothered if it had been clear from the start. Whether you like it or not it the truth. Therefore it has indeed worked.

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I’m pretty desperate and read anything. It didn’t need to draw me in.

Bernardo1 · 23/09/2025 19:30

Wetherspoons have changed the whole pub culture. Women are welcome, no bother. I know older ladies who meet up for lunch. You don't have to buy alcoholic drinks. I now and then have a traditional breakfast and unlimited tea/coffee for less than £7

GiveDogBone · 23/09/2025 19:30

Very strange. The only places I have ever been that are awkward for disabled people - I wouldn’t even say necessarily inaccessible - are buildings that are hundreds of years old. Any modern establishment - certainly if built within the last 50 years - is wheelchair accessible, if that’s what you mean?

Muffinmam · 23/09/2025 19:30

Mrsmunchofmunchington · 22/09/2025 20:14

I honestly thought it was clear enough but replace not catering for women with not catering for disabled people.
I substituted women to try and give some insight into the injustice to a wider audience.

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Is that intellectually disabled? ….because your post was not clear - it was all over the place.

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 23/09/2025 19:29

No. Content remains gibberish. Would have been better to just say in OP what issue is. As opposed to a convoluted reveal and subsequent explanation and attempts at justification @sosorryimnotsorry

sosorryimnotsorry · 23/09/2025 19:17

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 23/09/2025 18:58

The op was convoluted and obtuse. Purposefully so. Waffle about penises,men,and exclusion We were expected to guess the nuances and actual message.

But it made you read it! When lots wouldn’t have bothered if it had been clear from the start. Whether you like it or not it the truth. Therefore it has indeed worked.

Idontpostmuch · 23/09/2025 19:12

Mrsmunchofmunchington · 22/09/2025 20:14

I honestly thought it was clear enough but replace not catering for women with not catering for disabled people.
I substituted women to try and give some insight into the injustice to a wider audience.

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Clear enough? Clear as mud. But yes, terrible that there was no provision for disabled access.

PastaAllaNorma · 23/09/2025 19:04

MissFitss · 22/09/2025 22:14

It doesn't make sense.

She could buy lunch. She could eat lunch. She could sit there and eat all day.

The issue is that she couldn't access a toilet.

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Not true - the OP hasn't mentioned toilets at all.

Often it's a couple of steps up, no one can remember where the last manager put the ramp, th doors won't open wid enough for a wheelchair, there's a step between the entrance and the tables, they've crammed so many tables I to a small spac you can't manoeuvre a wheelchair through it, the stools are bolted to the floor so you can't remove one to roll up to tt table or it's counter service and no way to carry your tray with a wheelchair or crutches, or the seats are bar stools you can't get to from your wheelchair etc etc ad nauseum.

Not Accessible is rarely about a toilet.

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 23/09/2025 18:58

The op was convoluted and obtuse. Purposefully so. Waffle about penises,men,and exclusion We were expected to guess the nuances and actual message.

dadofone24 · 23/09/2025 18:58

Mrsmunchofmunchington · 22/09/2025 20:10

I went out for lunch today with a friend.
Well, at least we tried to have lunch.
All three places, two pubs and one cafe, were not suitable for women because you needed a penis to get into them or to use the toilet.
We ended up coming back to my home instead.

AIBU to think that everywhere should offer equal service to women?
Or is it my fault for not checking in advance that I could eat there without a penis?
Should I have researched on tripadvisor?
Am I too entitled expecting businesses to ensure non penis having people can pay to eat lunch at their establishment?

Day in the life of a disabled person.

Never in my life heard of a place only offering for men?

Ebeneser · 23/09/2025 18:54

Mrsmunchofmunchington · 22/09/2025 20:14

I honestly thought it was clear enough but replace not catering for women with not catering for disabled people.
I substituted women to try and give some insight into the injustice to a wider audience.

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Sorry, thought you were describing being on holiday as a woman in the Middle East. My bad.

Shellyash · 23/09/2025 18:47

Sounds like you infer that everyone with a penis is disabled.
Ok it's obviously a weakness but not a disability.

LillyPJ · 23/09/2025 18:45

moresoup · 23/09/2025 16:05

I don't expect these changes to happen overnight to make everywhere accessible. But of course I expect that when things are constructed or repaired then designing them for accessibility is factored in

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I have not said anything to the contrary.

sosorryimnotsorry · 23/09/2025 18:44

ginasevern · 23/09/2025 14:07

@sosorryimnotsorry "A lot of things can be done in the vast majority of buildings, including listed buildings, which would be massively beneficial. But people don’t want to because it doesn’t affect them."

I think you're being harsh and judgemental. To say that "people don't want to to because it doesn't affect them" is rarely true and completely overlooks the matter of cost. A close relative runs a venue in a listed building with winding corridors and twisting staircases. They've looked into every possible option to instal accessible facilities but the lowest quote they've had is for £675,000 - plus VAT. They simply don't have anything even close to that sort of money and never will, unless they win the lottery. The building isn't even worth that much. What are they supposed to do? I guess you'd say they should just pack up, sack their loyal staff and leave behind all their hard work as well as their home.

As someone with 15+ years of working with the disabled community I don’t think I am being remotely harsh. There are a huge number of businesses that could do a hell of a lot more to make their businesses accessible. But until they are forced to or find themselves in the situation they don’t bother. There are plenty of things that can be done for far cheaper than the figure you quote. But it often takes some out of the box thinking and an open mind to work through the challenges.

LillyPJ · 23/09/2025 18:44

nomas · 23/09/2025 16:02

All public pavements have dropped kerbs to allow wheelchairs to cross the road easily.

Why do you think don't?

And why should disabled people just accept that it's 'impossible to make everything accessible to all' when they can keep flagging it to the businesses?

Things only change when you make noise.

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Why accept something that's impossible to change? Errr... because some things are impossible to change. I've said we should keep improving and making people aware of the need to be as accessible as possible. I don't know what else you can expect.

MyTwinklyPanda · 23/09/2025 18:42

Stupid post. Just write for disabled people. Drama for drama sake!

Holdingthem · 23/09/2025 18:34

Your example is ridiculous!!

There will always be buildings that aren’t suitable for wheelchairs etc.

Worndownbyit · 23/09/2025 18:33

What??? This sounds utter nonsense!

Jupsie · 23/09/2025 18:30

No you are not being unreasonable all establishments should cater for both sexis the places you visited are discrimatry

Disdo · 23/09/2025 18:24

I get it, my Dad had a stroke four years ago, lost the use of his legs and left arm. Opened my eyes to how inaccessible most places are to a wheelchair users even when they make out they are.

Khayker · 23/09/2025 18:20

Mrsmunchofmunchington · 22/09/2025 20:14

I honestly thought it was clear enough but replace not catering for women with not catering for disabled people.
I substituted women to try and give some insight into the injustice to a wider audience.

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Well that didn't work did it?

Dugongs · 23/09/2025 18:15

Mrsmunchofmunchington · 22/09/2025 20:14

I honestly thought it was clear enough but replace not catering for women with not catering for disabled people.
I substituted women to try and give some insight into the injustice to a wider audience.

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I'm even more confused by the post, let alone the first one ?!?

HollyGolightly4 · 23/09/2025 18:14

SpryLilacSnake · 23/09/2025 12:08

"I went to a restaurant but couldn't eat anything because nothing was gluten free".

People seem to find that absolutely acceptable all the time and whilst I wouldn't personally call coeliac disease a disability it does actually meet the legal criteria and has been counted as a disability in historic employment tribunals.

I actually think it's fair enough that not everywhere can cater for me. I think it's a bad business decision because being gluten free is so common (more than 1/100 people and those people typically eat with friends/family) but that's their choice.

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I don't know anyone who would think that's ok, nor would I expect it to be an issue in 2025. I might be biased as I'm from a diverse city. Totally respect it might be your experience though, and agree it's terrible business sense.

Jonnybigwallet · 23/09/2025 18:05

Maybe a male pal could lend you his penis for a couple of hours?

AIBU5 · 23/09/2025 18:05

Mrsmunchofmunchington · 22/09/2025 20:19

When people have posted in a straight forward manner about lack of accessibility there have been suggestions of calling ahead, maybe checking with disability organisations.
Well meant but why should we have to?
Imagine the outrage if women had to ask in advance if they could get into a pub or cafe?

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You were not refused access as you were suggesting in you post OP, you couldn't access the places which is frustrating but with all due respect there's a difference. Whilst restaurants and cafes should make reasonable adjustments to cater for disabled people it is not an absolute obligation to make every possible adjustment.