Tried three places for lunch today and none cater for women

Its no different than someone with allergies having to check out restaurants first, to make sure its safe.

How are disability and penis connected ? We're you refused entry because you are disabled ? Or did you just decide not to go in ,?

You're determined not to read my post probably aren't you. If you did you would plainly see that this particular business has obviously not made any "assumptions" and has done nothing but seek out proper solutions! They've called in 5 lots of special consultants to draw up accessibility plans which has cost them a lot of money. A few small adjustments or a "quick fix" here and there is impossible in this particular building. And I think it's breathtakingly rude of you to call anyone "narrow minded" for trying to do their best to get things right.

The point she is making is that she shouldn’t have to plan in advance just to go out to lunch!

When people have posted in a straight forward manner about lack of accessibility there have been suggestions of calling ahead, maybe checking with disability organisations.
Well meant but why should we have to?
Imagine the outrage if women had to ask in advance if they could get into a pub or cafe?

I honestly thought it was clear enough but replace not catering for women with not catering for disabled people.
I substituted women to try and give some insight into the injustice to a wider audience.

My gran has both, the electric one isn’t much bigger than her other one. I also appreciate that that are many different kinds.
My friend has a teenage child who is severely disabled and his chair is massive. So they do have to check places to make sure they have room.

Electric wheelchairs can be huge (and heavy) too. Not all wheelchairs are manual, even then, adult ones are hardly small.

I think the sheer number of comments shows that you get far more responses from a thread about women being disadvantaged than disabled people which rather supports my use of an analogy even if some people don’t understand.

Thanks to all who have liked, loved and clapped and those who posted in support.

Off out now and will be trying to avoid being mown down on my mobility scooter.
Last week I was told to “get off the road you crippled cunt” by one absolute prince in his boy racer car.
Fingers crossed for more consideration today.

I think the sheer number of comments shows that you get far more responses from a thread about women being disadvantaged than disabled people which rather supports my use of an analogy even if some people don’t understand.

Thanks to all who have liked, loved and clapped and those who posted in support.

Off out now and will be trying to avoid being mown down on my mobility scooter.
Last week I was told to “get off the road you crippled cunt” by one absolute prince in his boy racer car.
Fingers crossed for more consideration today.

I honestly thought it was clear enough but replace not catering for women with not catering for disabled people.
I substituted women to try and give some insight into the injustice to a wider audience.

@ginaseverndid you miss the bit about the fact I work in the industry. I dare say I know a thing or two about this. And yes there are many many more things that can be done to make many spaces more accessible. The trouble is mainly narrow minded thinking and trying to make everything perfect. But the reality is that many businesses don’t actually seek out solutions they make an incorrect assumption that nothing can be done and then move on.

You think u have been clear but yet no one else does!

If it was as simple as "out of the box" thinking and open mindedness the business owner would have done it. Perhaps he could just use "the force". You are talking absolute nonesense. This is a labyrinth of a listed building with twisting old stone steps and corridors everywhere. The place would have to be essentially re-built with 2 specialist lifts fitted to the outside of the building. This isn't a case of installing a few portable ramps and putting handrails in the toilets. Besides, you can't just put in some "make shift" arrangements. Accessible facilities have to meet strict criteria and safety standards. Not everywhere can accommodate wheelchair users and I don't see the value to anyone in those places closing down. The disabled still wouldn't be able to use the venue if it ceased to exist!

I was very confused. I thought the OP had visited a restaurant that served food only men would eat, and wondered how I had managed to miss demarcation of dishes based on sex eg Men: steak, cooked breakfast, pork pie, fish and chips. Women: Prawn cocktail, grilled lemon sole, trifle, cake.

You think u have been clear but yet no one else does!

There is a big difference with being wheelchair friendly and mobility scooter friendly. They are huge. How are cafes meant to waste such huge amounts of space to accommodate them. That will be so many places couldn’t fit you in. Nothing to do with being disabled.

And you shouldn’t be riding them on the road, it’s dangerous and could cause a crash.

They should be ridden on the road if they are being ridden above a certain speed (can't remember what that speed is). Riding them on the road isn't dangerous, it is careless/gormless drivers that are dangerous and should be called out, and this sort of victim blaming needs to be stamped out now. We wouldn't say dressing sexily is dangerous because you might get raped.

There was a sheers number of comments about being totally confused not men v women

I think the sheer number of comments shows that you get far more responses from a thread about women being disadvantaged than disabled people which rather supports my use of an analogy even if some people don’t understand.

Thanks to all who have liked, loved and clapped and those who posted in support.

Off out now and will be trying to avoid being mown down on my mobility scooter.
Last week I was told to “get off the road you crippled cunt” by one absolute prince in his boy racer car.
Fingers crossed for more consideration today.

There is a big difference with being wheelchair friendly and mobility scooter friendly. They are huge. How are cafes meant to waste such huge amounts of space to accommodate them. That will be so many places couldn’t fit you in. Nothing to do with being disabled.

And you shouldn’t be riding them on the road, it’s dangerous and could cause a crash.

There is a big difference with being wheelchair friendly and mobility scooter friendly. They are huge. How are cafes meant to waste such huge amounts of space to accommodate them. That will be so many places couldn’t fit you in. Nothing to do with being disabled.

And you shouldn’t be riding them on the road, it’s dangerous and could cause a crash.