Tried three places for lunch today and none cater for women

But it’s a stupid analogy because so many old buildings can’t be adapted for wheelchair access at all, and others without massive funding which simply isn’t available.
It’s not as simple as refusing entry based on favouritism.

That is really rubbish OP, you absolutely shouldn't have to call ahead either.

Did you have a liquid lunch?

Clear as mud actually. To quote a mumsnet classic are you on glue ?

Too confusing...just say what you want to say not make it too confusing with your mixed messages.

Re disabled toilets...I never forgot taking my mum to them and seeing the two steps down to the disabled toilets...mum had to get out of the wheelchair and go on to her bottom to get to the toilet. Disabled access is awful. Don't get me on disabled parking ...so many are on hills...I remember helping mum out of the car to see the chair still with brakes on sliding down the hill...in that case another member of the public rushed to help me and rescue the chair. When I finally got mum Into the chair safely I then had the biggest step ever to get from the disabled parking into the shopping center. I put mum safe and returned to get the bag...I was juggling mum and the chair the car door and my keys and handbag...to find a member of public standing behind me when I reached into the car to get the bag to say you are not disabled...I pointed at mum, shut the car door and tbh was so worn out at that point mum and I just went for a coffee then back home. However we got out which was a huge step....was a few weeks until I attempted it again...it gets easier...

I doubt anyone cares what you have in your pants. Cool story anyway babe.

The OP is not actually making a point about men - she is making the point that as someone who is disabled without a certain body part (in this case legs) she hasn't been able to go somewhere for lunch.

She is using men and women as the point that if several places wouldn't cater for women because they didn't have a certain body part (penis) then there would be uproar.

It was very clear to me. It's also clear why you posted it. Women would be appalled at being excluded from 3 places. Not so many people care about the exclusion of disabled people.

I don’t understand. Do you realise that men have disabilities too? So by your post, would you agree that men also would not have made it to the lunch?

Exactly.

Or like pp has brought up too, you have to be so careful booking accessible rooms because they might claim it's accessible because they have a grab rail in the bathroom which is completely useless if it has a step in shower or a few steps down to the hotel room in the first place.

Not to mention the fact that accessible rooms are usually more expensive too.

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This was probably the wrong website to use that analogy on... in the context of this place I thought it was some sort of complaint about unisex loos as there are some posters who obssess about that kind of thing.

I'm sorry you had such a rubbish experience and that access is so lousy for people with disabilities.

It’s not just the toilet that need to be accessible

Your posts are incoherent and incomprehensible, that’s why vast majority don’t understand what convoluted point you’re making

I think its small things that arent part of the usual understanding of accessible. For me, I struggle to open and shut doors, due to the weight and muscle control, some doors are really heavy, turning on and off certain styles of taps. And dont get me started on fancy low lighting in some bog standard restaurants now, mkaing out they're some sort of night club. I cant see a bloody thing in the toilets. And talking of toilets I often dont have the strength to push the flush on those ones you push in.

Im not disabled, these things cause lots of people problems although obviously I can still use them

Do you live in Bath @Mrsmunchofmunchington ?

Because if you just ask if its accessible, you'll often be told yes - and not told that this is on the basis that someone with a child in a tiny manual chair got in there once, five years ago... and they have forgotten that this was a tiny chair, or that they had to be lifted over a lip in a doorway, or that one half of the double doors does not in fact open..

So then you show up and the door is not wide enough and there is a lip that will either damage you or your chair..

Or you show up and yes, its accessible.. if you can just levitate down these three steps.. then through this narrow fire door, then up three more steps (that was an accessible hotel room! So called because it had a grab rail in the loo)...

Or its accessible but only if the manager who holds the key to the double doors is there, otherwise they only open the one half...

I have turned up and latterly, rung back to double check, on so many occasions now to find that what i was told was not the truth, I have lost count!

Life as a disabled person is tougher. I had no idea until a relative has little mobility and use walking aids but cannot walk very far or do steps.
We ring ahead everywhere to check toilets, parking, seating availability even then plans falls apart.

Did you end up just sitting in the park drinking cans of cider instead op😂

I’m sorry you had that experience OP and wonder where it was? It’s a while since I’ve been in a pub without an accessible loo. A small local cafe perhaps.

Sounds really shit. Are there no regulations?

Please edit your original post so we know what your analogy is actually about

Clear as mud

Very good point. People with food allergies have to check in advance, it’s a phone call - most places need a phone call to make a reservation anyway 🤷🏻‍♀️

Because people seem to have a different idea of what ''accessible'' means. OP has probably had similar experiences to me, asking if somewhere is accessible, saying yes and then turning up to find that it isn't very accessible at all.

I'm not talking about obvious things such as steps or no lifts, less obvious things that aren't always thought of when the majority of people aren't disabled.