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To ask whether anyone here has ever been investigated by DWP for “living with a partner”?

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Labradorlover987 · 22/09/2025 13:11

My friend has just been asked to attend a compliance interview at the job centre - she claims universal credit as a single mother to 2 kids, and single person council tax discount she has a boyfriend but they don’t live together full time - he lives with his father - he obviously stays over 3/4 nights a week.

Just wondered what the process was etc

OP posts:
TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:38

Deliciouslyfree · 23/09/2025 15:35

Why don’t you mention it at your next meeting then you’ll know for sure either way

I dont have meetings at the job centre because I am in the LCWRA group.
I will ask my support worker when I next see her.

Looploop · 23/09/2025 15:37

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:21

That’s only if someone can ever earn enough to come off of it or not have to claim in the first place.
You are fortunate then that you earn enough to pay for everything on your own.
Is that a mortgage or private rent, for example in London. Because for a 2 bed flat it can cost btw £1600/2000 a month.
Many don’t earn alot more than that for a full months work, which yes they should be able to live on.
Which is a country/government problem then. And exactly why they top people up who work and are still entitled to something.

So you never received child benefit? You never received single persons council tax before your son was an adult?
So you worked full time since he went to nursery? Paid all childcare costs yourself?
I mean bearing in mind when your son was little there wouldn’t have been the 15/30 free hrs for nursery etc. So you paid for 5 days a week at nursery, you never claimed child tax credits or working tax credits. So a full day 8/8.30-6pm.

And then when he went to school you paid for after school care and for during the holidays when you couldn’t take leave.

I mean if you earn a high salary okay you have earnt deservedly working hard study wise/being academic, etc, so then with a high salary is it only then possible to pay it all.

Yes, did all that. I was married initially so we both paid towards costs at that stage. To sum up the divorce, I had to pay my ex to go away!

I have a decent salary but I have also had a lot of childcare costs - paid by me. At one stage I needed to have an au pair for childcare to cover my antisocial hours so didn’t get the single person council tax discount as she lived in. I never claimed it.

We did get child benefit as a family when it was paid to all. But not since means testing.

I am not paid megabucks but yes I do have a degree and a vast amount of professional experience. I have always worked, including when kids were small, and paid a lot for nursery, childminders, after-school clubs etc. I’ve paid for every type of childcare. It was the only way to have a decent standard of living.

This is how taxpayers live. Net contributors to the system.

highlandponymummy · 23/09/2025 15:36

There is no minimum stay allowed apparently. A friend of mine was visited by the DWP, who told her that the 2 night stay allowance is a myth.

Deliciouslyfree · 23/09/2025 15:35

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:35

Am I committing fraud? I am getting really worried now.
I cant afford to live with no money.

Why don’t you mention it at your next meeting then you’ll know for sure either way

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:35

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:25

Watching TV together is not the point.
Someone can’t expect the benefits to pay them rent etc and anything else as a single person, and then want their bf overnight as much as they like, but it’s okay because he has somewhere else to go.
It seems mostly only the people who do it don’t want to see it as it is.

Am I committing fraud? I am getting really worried now.
I cant afford to live with no money.

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:33

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:23

Mums not the same as a partner lol.

Please can you tell me if I have to inform the job centre about a boyfriend that I do not live with. We have our own homes and own bills and all of this can be proven. He buys me meals when we go out.
I am getting worried now.

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:25

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:17

He does not live with me though. So my UC claim is as a single person because I live alone. Him watching TV with me is not living with me.

I am getting so confused. Do we have to do a joint claim even though we dont live together?

Edited

Watching TV together is not the point.
Someone can’t expect the benefits to pay them rent etc and anything else as a single person, and then want their bf overnight as much as they like, but it’s okay because he has somewhere else to go.
It seems mostly only the people who do it don’t want to see it as it is.

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:23

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:14

He stays at mine 1 or 2 times a week usually weekends. His job is WFH so he sometimes works at mine.
So do I need to tell the job centre about him because this thread is confusing me. My mum buys me food sometimes. Do I need to tell them about her too?

Mums not the same as a partner lol.

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:21

Looploop · 23/09/2025 13:22

The state has no money of its own. Do you realise that? It comes from taxpayers. From your neighbours and friends. From me.

I am a lone parent. I work full time and pay my taxes. Never claimed benefits. I don’t get a single person discount on council tax as my adult son, also working, lives with me. He can’t afford his own place yet as he is saving up and wouldn’t be housed by the state either.

If everyone lives on benefits who is going to be funding them?? Jobs should pay enough for people to live on - I personallt believe UC subsidises some cheapskate employers. The welfare state should be a safety net and not a way of life!

That’s only if someone can ever earn enough to come off of it or not have to claim in the first place.
You are fortunate then that you earn enough to pay for everything on your own.
Is that a mortgage or private rent, for example in London. Because for a 2 bed flat it can cost btw £1600/2000 a month.
Many don’t earn alot more than that for a full months work, which yes they should be able to live on.
Which is a country/government problem then. And exactly why they top people up who work and are still entitled to something.

So you never received child benefit? You never received single persons council tax before your son was an adult?
So you worked full time since he went to nursery? Paid all childcare costs yourself?
I mean bearing in mind when your son was little there wouldn’t have been the 15/30 free hrs for nursery etc. So you paid for 5 days a week at nursery, you never claimed child tax credits or working tax credits. So a full day 8/8.30-6pm.

And then when he went to school you paid for after school care and for during the holidays when you couldn’t take leave.

I mean if you earn a high salary okay you have earnt deservedly working hard study wise/being academic, etc, so then with a high salary is it only then possible to pay it all.

Labradorlover987 · 23/09/2025 15:20

Deliciouslyfree · 23/09/2025 15:06

Goodness you have a lot on op… another thread on the go today about whether or not you should report something to SS!

It’s the same friend actually - if you scroll up you will see my comment from yesterday regarding TikTok, but thank you for your patronising advice - much appreciated

OP posts:
TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:17

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:12

They can’t you are right.
But the bf can’t spend 1 night a week or fancy being there 5 or even 7 days/nights of the week, but oh he doesn’t have to pay because he doesn’t live there, and the state must still pay too, because oh you are single and live alone.

He does not live with me though. So my UC claim is as a single person because I live alone. Him watching TV with me is not living with me.

I am getting so confused. Do we have to do a joint claim even though we dont live together?

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:14

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:09

True, and I’m not saying this in your case. But overall, just because people have their own places and paying things in those places, but then choose to spend most of it at the other persons place, where by the state are paying towards it, then that person could just pay for there too, so rather you can’t have your cake and eat it.

He stays at mine 1 or 2 times a week usually weekends. His job is WFH so he sometimes works at mine.
So do I need to tell the job centre about him because this thread is confusing me. My mum buys me food sometimes. Do I need to tell them about her too?

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:12

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 14:53

Some people are on benefits for life as they are disabled or are only capable of low paid jobs.
Some couples never live together. Some even get married but find living apart is what works for then.
Me and my boyfriend have been together for a few years and have no plans to live together. We are both autistic and need our own safe spaces. He works but does not get offered promotions as working is hard enough for him already without more demands. He salary covers the life he wants to live so sees no point in pushing himself and getting ill and ending up on benefits.
Living apart is what works for us. He lives a very short walk from me so we spend a lot of time together anyway. If we lived together then my benefits would stop. The state cannot say that a couple must live together after a certain amount of time and neither can they say a partner that does not live with you has to financially support you.

They can’t you are right.
But the bf can’t spend 1 night a week or fancy being there 5 or even 7 days/nights of the week, but oh he doesn’t have to pay because he doesn’t live there, and the state must still pay too, because oh you are single and live alone.

Deliciouslyfree · 23/09/2025 15:10

Labradorlover987 · 22/09/2025 13:28

It’s a fairly newish relationship - he isn’t the father of the kids - but yeah I think he stays a good few nights - guessing one of the neighbours reported her 🤷‍♀️

Well you did op according to another thread 😆

Redruby2020 · 23/09/2025 15:09

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:07

Yes I am on UC. My boyfriend does not pay for anything except when we eat out or make a meal at my place. No shared finances at all and we have separate households and bills council tax.

Subsidising what exactly? As far as I know the DWP will not be concerned with me having a boyfriend that I do not live with so neither should you. We can not be made to live together.

True, and I’m not saying this in your case. But overall, just because people have their own places and paying things in those places, but then choose to spend most of it at the other persons place, where by the state are paying towards it, then that person could just pay for there too, so rather you can’t have your cake and eat it.

Deliciouslyfree · 23/09/2025 15:09

The OP on another thread

What happens if someone is claiming as a single partner but has a new partner living with them? I know someone who is clearly milking the system - brand new housing association house, works part time (but just over the UC band) and has two children but claims partner doesn’t live with her (he very much does!!)

so you do know she’s committing fraud op?

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 15:07

Looploop · 23/09/2025 15:03

Have whatever living arrangement suit you but don’t expect me to pay for it. Are you claiming benefits? If so, my taxes are subsidising this.

Yes I am on UC. My boyfriend does not pay for anything except when we eat out or make a meal at my place. No shared finances at all and we have separate households and bills council tax.

Subsidising what exactly? As far as I know the DWP will not be concerned with me having a boyfriend that I do not live with so neither should you. We can not be made to live together.

Deliciouslyfree · 23/09/2025 15:06

Goodness you have a lot on op… another thread on the go today about whether or not you should report something to SS!

Deliciouslyfree · 23/09/2025 15:05

Labradorlover987 · 23/09/2025 11:13

As I’ve said I really don’t know - I think the overnight stays started around 3 months ish ago but I really don’t know whether this means most nights or occasionally - she has said occasionally to me but someone has obviously reported her for living with him so maybe it’s more?

If you “don’t really know”

I am shocked you’re even considering getting involved with this op in any shape or form

Looploop · 23/09/2025 15:03

Have whatever living arrangement suit you but don’t expect me to pay for it. Are you claiming benefits? If so, my taxes are subsidising this.

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 14:53

Looploop · 23/09/2025 09:42

You are not meant to be on benefits for life! If a couple seriously spend time getting to know each other then the point must come when you consider sharing households, the costs of it and the cost savings from two living as cheaply as one. And over time then surely you would also hope to increase earning power? Kids grow up and don’t need childcare 24/7, people get promotions. You don’t just stay stuck on benefits for years. Likewise if you get a boyfriend and it’s serious then eventually you DO move in together.

Some people are on benefits for life as they are disabled or are only capable of low paid jobs.
Some couples never live together. Some even get married but find living apart is what works for then.
Me and my boyfriend have been together for a few years and have no plans to live together. We are both autistic and need our own safe spaces. He works but does not get offered promotions as working is hard enough for him already without more demands. He salary covers the life he wants to live so sees no point in pushing himself and getting ill and ending up on benefits.
Living apart is what works for us. He lives a very short walk from me so we spend a lot of time together anyway. If we lived together then my benefits would stop. The state cannot say that a couple must live together after a certain amount of time and neither can they say a partner that does not live with you has to financially support you.

TheSpiritofDarkandLonelyWater · 23/09/2025 14:43

Gymbunny2025 · 23/09/2025 06:49

But as a pp pointed out, if he’s staying over half the week and NOT contributing financially, then she is supporting him (hot water, electricity, internet, food etc aren’t cheap) so obviously doesn’t need the benefits she is getting! Why should taxpayers money be housing and feeding her recent boyfriend?! And as for her poor kids…

When my boyfriend stays over it costs me nothing more in anything. My TV does not use more electricity because he is watching it with me and my internet is a fixed price. We eat out together and he comes to mine or comes to mine after we have had our own meals.. Showers at his own home as he lives very close and washes his clothing at his own place.

He does not contribute financially as he is not costing me any money having him here. If we eat together in my house then we go shopping together for the food and split the cost.

PencilsInSpace · 23/09/2025 13:48

Iamfree · 23/09/2025 12:14

I’ll say one thing. I have reported MANY benefit cheats (and people to HMRC). I see it as my civic duty. Shame I never know how it ends - my cleaning lady was saying how she had a rich boyfriend but even if she moved in with him, she would keep her council house (or whatever they are called). I reported her within 2 minutes of hearing that, asked her for her address to send her a present. Sorry not sorry. So I hope you “friend” gets prosecuted I am tired of seeing my taxes go on these cheats

What exactly did you report her for?

Iamfree · 23/09/2025 13:42

@Labradorlover987I have never heard back also because I report anonymously but I always do - sorry every time a benefit cheat gets a £ he/she is not owed, they are getting my money

Looploop · 23/09/2025 13:22

The state has no money of its own. Do you realise that? It comes from taxpayers. From your neighbours and friends. From me.

I am a lone parent. I work full time and pay my taxes. Never claimed benefits. I don’t get a single person discount on council tax as my adult son, also working, lives with me. He can’t afford his own place yet as he is saving up and wouldn’t be housed by the state either.

If everyone lives on benefits who is going to be funding them?? Jobs should pay enough for people to live on - I personallt believe UC subsidises some cheapskate employers. The welfare state should be a safety net and not a way of life!