I feel so demoralised

I’ve worked over twenty years in the NHS and if they decide they don’t want me, fine. I don’t understand the sense of entitlement. The UK’s priority is its own citizens.

The current political climate is all very depressing and demoralising op so completely understand your anxiety.

I know it’s a huge effort when you are unwell but I would urge you to look in to citizenship to put your fears at rest. If you can access your NHS pay slips, and tax payments for the past thirty years, that should should be a great start! It will be worth it for peace of mind.

Nigel Farage is enough to tip anyone over the edge. I saw a sm clip by Led by Donkeys which highlighted his racist views stretching right back to secondary school, I can’t link but if you can find it, it makes all the noise around Farage fall away and reveals his real intentions. We knew anyway but this clarifies it without a shred of a doubt. Scary.

I wonder why you think people are incapable of using their own eyes and ears. They’re living with the negative consequences on a daily basis. They see the problems around them. They don’t need to be fed a diet of misinformation, as you put it. They’re not mindless fools operating on bad information. Their own lived experience has led to their conclusions.

The Netherlands doesn't allow dual citizenship UNLESS you acquire the citizenship of your spouse/civil partner. Is that an option for you OP?

In English: "You have acquired your spouse's or civil partner's citizenship"
https://www.government.nl/topics/dutch-citizenship/loss-of-dutch-citizenship/automatic-loss-of-dutch-citizenship
In Dutch: "Zo raken Nederlanders hun nationaliteit niet kwijt wanneer zij vrijwillig de nationaliteit van hun huwelijks- of geregistreerde partner aannemen" https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/nederlandse-nationaliteit/nederlandse-nationaliteit-verliezen#:~:text=Zo%20raken

Alternatively, apply for Irish citizenship so you keep your EU membership benefits. I'm Dutch and have lived here for over 15 years, I've not applied for UK citizenship because I don't have anyone to get married to and my EU privileges are important to me.

That said, Farage is known for coming up with a load of populist nonsense that will never happen. I'm not worried about it. Can you really imagine them kicking out 1 million Europeans? Economic disaster.

I am not OP. You are not the thread police.

I came here as an adult. I have worked almost 30 years in the NHS and continue to do so.

This policy is rooted in incompetence and xenophobia and would be an economic disaster if implemented. If it is, I'll leave and take my financial contribution with me.

it does now
dh is Dutch, and he has ILR since Brexit. Before Brexit nothign was needed, he was an EU citizen living here in and EU country.
Many of the brexit voters we knew were shocked when I said that menat my dh could no longer live here - well that wans't what we wanted (sigh)

Anyway, since then The Netherlands has allowed people to hold dual citizenship. My kids have applied for Dutch passports so they can hold dual citizenship.
the trouble is, it is really expensive to become a British citizen, like £10,000. We don't have that, so at the moment it isn't an option.

I am worried about reform getting in. I do feel that it is like the US - no-one believed Trump woudl get in the first time, let alone the second!

Yeah I wouldn't be so sure about that
There was a by election by me last week - just a local council but reform not only got in but got nearly the same amount of votes as the next 2 put together.

Yes things might change and no people might not be as willing to risk a protest vote for actual mps but just because he doesn't have seats now doesn't mean anything - remember the 2015 election where the SNP went from something like 6 to 56 seats overnight - 833% increase. And lib dems went down almost the same amount.

That's not to say I would worry about it unduly op because even if he did get in (I know I've said above he might win seats but that's not the same as a sufficient majority to be PM) it would take so long and have so many legal challenges to put something like that in place he'd be sick of the actual work expected in actually holding down a job rather than just pontificating about what other people should be doing that he'll step down long before anything is actually ever done.

Also -isn't his wife German? So understand his own rules he'd have to deport her?

Mass low skilled immigration is hurting this country, reducing GDP per capital and incentivizing the local population to become unproductive.

On top, it’s madness for immigrants to be able to claim benefits after 5 years and get public secures for free (many of which are free from day 1).

Low skilled, low paid immigrants will never contribute enough to warrant what they get from the system. And yes, contribution is financial. The fluff around ‘oh but what about low paid workers’ doesn’t add up. You can’t pay for public services in feel good clouds and rainbows, it takes cold, hard cash, earned by people who pay tens of thousands in tax each year.

It is more than reasonable to curb this craziness wi the low skilled migration.

If we are talking about the OP specifically, not having £2k her entire life to pay for this just shows being a UK citizen is of such little value to her. I am not at all a suporter of Farage or any right eing shite, but a European citizen who just doesn't feel like paying £2k or losing their dual citizenship is very different from a refugee from a war torn country in need of help.

The majority of the medical staff administering chemo to cancer patients to people like my DH in our local hospital are (legal) immigrants and they are fantastic. The NHS would collapse without staff from overseas. Farage is a short sighted mouth-almighty of very average intelligence and it's thanks to the likes of him that we have to endure the fall out from Brexit. Most of us haven't forgotten that. He also broke covid restrictions (one rule for him and another rule for the rest of us?). Hell will freeze over before I vote for that self important turd in a suit.

Btw - my DH met him through the course of his work and can confirm that Farage is a very unimpressive, entitled, arrogant little man with massive delusions who thinks the rules don't apply to him. Just like most MPs.

Trump won?

I'm so sorry, firstly. However, YABU to say 'when' he gets into power. He won't. Right wing people are falling into the same trap that left wing people often fall into, of assuming that their social media echo chamber reflects reality.

Getting an Irish passport was easy for my DH and our DC. I would try this route first.

Many don’t have a nearly extra £2k (£1735 for citizenship) lying around after getting ILR. ILR and citizenship are two separate fees.

They have you take the citizenship test when applying for ILR and then either you continue as ILR or pay the extra to become a citizen.

The difference when becoming a citizen is you get access to get a British passport and allowed to vote in the general election if I remember correctly.

Are you the OP? In that case name change fail. Anyway, if you are the OP, you have lived in this country since you were a toddler, if you think that continuing to have a Dutch citizenship - a country that you were just born in and almost never lived, is that important to you, then sure you can risk it, but this is a choice you made and while there is much wrong with Farage, someone not wanting to become a citizen is not his fault.

Doesn't men I accept or understand this post without explanation.

Either the pp can succinctly explain it or she can't.

Read the update from the OP. She has settled status and has worked for the NHS for 30 years. And now has incurable cancer and fears Farage will see her as a burden and deport her if he gets in.

I really need to understand why her immigration has been a problem, let alone a disaster.

And how PP who support Farage see this playing out for individuals like the OP?

Apply for an Irish passport, using your mums birth certificate, under the common travel area rules, Irish citizens are allowed to live and work in the UK with no restrictions (and vice versa).

I’m embarrassed that this is happening in my adopted country and very sorry for your situation.

OP I am truly sorry that you are facing all this, and it is not surprising that Farage's rhetoric is so demoralising and distressing to you. It's the sentiment and the hostility that is so upsetting, whether or not there is any legal or practical basis an an attempt to deport millions of people like yourself. I mean really - can you imagine?

You are not a drain - and thank you for your contribution as a long term employee of the NHS.

We have about 9999 other threads on that already!

It’s a sign of how desperate people are to get this issue under control that they’re willing to take the chance.

Its actually a sign that people have been fed a diet of "it's all their fault things are tough for you". Like all crap diets, it'll be crap in and crap out. People are being fed lies and misinformation.

Is this a disingenuous question, or are you actually interested in an answer?

I don’t know if anyone voting for them genuinely thinks they’ll be better, or more effective. However, they’re the untried option now both other parties have failed. It’s a sign of how desperate people are to get this issue under control that they’re willing to take the chance. Which other party is willing to take serious, drastic action?

Can you please explain why immigration has been a disaster for the UK?

Don't worry he won't actually get in.

Everyone can see he's a complete muppet.
He even looks like Kermit (no offence to Kermit who is actually a really sound geezer)