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Charlie Kirks wife forgives the killer

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strangerandstranger · 21/09/2025 23:22

To people who said her husband was hateful and what they preached was hateful, she just forgave the killer, as God would. Powerful speech.

The messed up young man who thought shooting man he didn't like was the answer, will go to prison and no longer be with his boyfriend. Erika Kirk no longer has her husband and her children have list their father.

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keepthecake · 22/09/2025 00:14

I found a link
m.youtube.com/watch?v=9OUj_Hzgnjs

LancashireButterPie · 22/09/2025 00:14

Hmm, Maybe her marketing team advised her that her first speech, declaring retribution, wasn't such a great look.
This is a big step in the right direction.

I hope she now campaigns for an end to guns, the acceptance of those with alternative lifestyles (love they neighbour as thyself) and an end to the death penalty (Let he who is without sin cast the first stone).

Calmomiletea · 22/09/2025 00:13

MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/09/2025 00:08

Define this "truth" of which you speak.

So, how many videos of Charlie's have you actually watched? I'll repeat my question to each and every one who claims he was hateful.

If you want to know what truth is read the Bible.

strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:13

MsAmerica · 22/09/2025 00:04

Once again, this does not seem in any way to be suitable for the AIBU forum.

But I will just add that whatever she is saying now, in her grand-standing show, with her comparing herself to God, as you indicate - I can also tell you that in her first speech, last week, the words and tone were quite threatening - not toward the shooter, but toward all Democrats/Liberals.

Aibu is a range if topics and views and discussion points. You are free to comment or pass by as you wish.

To me her speech and forgiveness was noteworthy, to others it it's not.

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JulianFawcettMP · 22/09/2025 00:12

@Calmomiletea forcing a woman to carry and birth the product of rape is, in my opinion, hateful. To expect that of your own daughter defies belief but he was very clear that is how he felt.

Face the truth (whatever that means)

MoFadaCromulent · 22/09/2025 00:11

strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:04

People were saying that his movement was hateful, they were all hateful. She has shown she wasn't. I have seen her husband's speeches, not just read the clips, people have shared of bits of them. I don't agree with what he says but I cannot see how that deserves being killed or how cheering at his killing makes anything better.

She has shown she isn't hateful. That was my point, she's shown forgiveness in the face of sheer horror.

But you didn't frame it as his movement, it we are all, or all Republicans are hateful.

You said for people who said he was hateful. It's a faulty premise. Nothing his wife does after his death can make him more or less hateful.

In the same way I can't say that his wife's turning point USA branded message last week after his death proves that something he said 2 years ago is now objectively hateful and disingenuous and that it proves it was all a facade to profit off fundamentist Christian fear.

So you can't set up a combative "debate me" premise of "how stupid do you all feel now for saying this" and then retreat to the safety of "all I'm saying is people called her hateful and look at her forgiveness" when posters engage with the premise you elected to put forward.

Calmomiletea · 22/09/2025 00:11

Chattanoogachoo · 21/09/2025 23:56

His murder has really brought home to me that so many seem to accept murder as acceptable/understandable.
I read an article which explained his murder in terms of the rise of fascism and it was Kirk who was described as the fascist not the murderer.We're living in very strange times.

It's so true. And all of those who will wrongly claim he was a fascist seem to not know that Charlie called for the opposite of fascism, he was all about open dialogue and debate.

strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:10

MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/09/2025 00:07

Pity that Trump is hijacking all the love and light to make one of his rambling and frankly hate filled speeches.

His first comment was he doesn't agree with her forgiving the killer. Yes, he's rambling on.

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strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:08

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No need to be offensive but hey you do you.

You've also missed my point but there you go, no name calling from me.

My main point is: wow, after losing her husband to a very public killing, she forgives the killer. That's all. Her speech was from the heart. You may not listen, thats up to you. Many will comment, as I suspect you have, without actually listening to her.

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/09/2025 00:08

Calmomiletea · 22/09/2025 00:05

How many videos of Charlie's did you ever watch? The only way someone could equate what Charlie said as hateful is if they simply didn't agree with what he said. Such people confuse telling the truth with hate, which is actually the opposite of what it is: telling the truth when people will hate you for it is actually love. That's what CK sacrificed himself for, so that people like you who would hate him could hear the truth.

Face the truth.

Define this "truth" of which you speak.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/09/2025 00:07

Pity that Trump is hijacking all the love and light to make one of his rambling and frankly hate filled speeches.

Calmomiletea · 22/09/2025 00:05

awkwardasfuck · 21/09/2025 23:28

He WAS hateful. Doesn't make it right that he was murdered, but he was genuinely an extremist with vile views.

Both can be true at the same time. Hope that helps.

How many videos of Charlie's did you ever watch? The only way someone could equate what Charlie said as hateful is if they simply didn't agree with what he said. Such people confuse telling the truth with hate, which is actually the opposite of what it is: telling the truth when people will hate you for it is actually love. That's what CK sacrificed himself for, so that people like you who would hate him could hear the truth.

Face the truth.

strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:04

MoFadaCromulent · 22/09/2025 00:00

Surely the point the poster was making is that anything his wife does, good, bad or indifferent, does not posthumously alter what her husband did.

So the premise of "for those of you who said x about him, his wife doing Y proves you wrong" is fundamentally flawed as the two are not linked.

Someone could logically say he was hateful and preached hate and be correct from a logical consistency POV and his wife could be the ultimate example of b forgiveness. One does not preclude the other.

So the issue is with your setup of "her forgiveness proves you wrong" rather than people arguing that she can't be forgiving

People were saying that his movement was hateful, they were all hateful. She has shown she wasn't. I have seen her husband's speeches, not just read the clips, people have shared of bits of them. I don't agree with what he says but I cannot see how that deserves being killed or how cheering at his killing makes anything better.

She has shown she isn't hateful. That was my point, she's shown forgiveness in the face of sheer horror.

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MsAmerica · 22/09/2025 00:04

strangerandstranger · 21/09/2025 23:22

To people who said her husband was hateful and what they preached was hateful, she just forgave the killer, as God would. Powerful speech.

The messed up young man who thought shooting man he didn't like was the answer, will go to prison and no longer be with his boyfriend. Erika Kirk no longer has her husband and her children have list their father.

Once again, this does not seem in any way to be suitable for the AIBU forum.

But I will just add that whatever she is saying now, in her grand-standing show, with her comparing herself to God, as you indicate - I can also tell you that in her first speech, last week, the words and tone were quite threatening - not toward the shooter, but toward all Democrats/Liberals.

sittingonabeach · 22/09/2025 00:04

Don’t think I have seen anyone think it was right he was murdered. But him being murdered doesn’t change the fact he had some pretty awful views.

Libellousness · 22/09/2025 00:01

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strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:00

The murderer has made a wife and 2 children suffer. He has also made Charlie Kirk more famous that he was before.

The murderer will hopefully not be given the death sentence but perhaps one day realise that killing is not the answer.

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MoFadaCromulent · 22/09/2025 00:00

strangerandstranger · 21/09/2025 23:54

If it makes you feel better Trump doesn't agree with her forgiving the killer. Its her words. Her choice. Some/many Christians do believe in forgiveness.

Surely the point the poster was making is that anything his wife does, good, bad or indifferent, does not posthumously alter what her husband did.

So the premise of "for those of you who said x about him, his wife doing Y proves you wrong" is fundamentally flawed as the two are not linked.

Someone could logically say he was hateful and preached hate and be correct from a logical consistency POV and his wife could be the ultimate example of b forgiveness. One does not preclude the other.

So the issue is with your setup of "her forgiveness proves you wrong" rather than people arguing that she can't be forgiving

strangerandstranger · 21/09/2025 23:58

Chattanoogachoo · 21/09/2025 23:56

His murder has really brought home to me that so many seem to accept murder as acceptable/understandable.
I read an article which explained his murder in terms of the rise of fascism and it was Kirk who was described as the fascist not the murderer.We're living in very strange times.

This exactly. People didn't like his words so they appear to think, it's ok to kill him.

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MrsSkylerWhite · 21/09/2025 23:57

strangerandstranger · 21/09/2025 23:44

I'm posting how a woman who has had her husband killed just gave an emotional speech and forgave the killer. You might not think that is much, its a massive thing to do, many couldn't do that.

Amazing lady.

Sure.
Or a lady with an agenda.

strangerandstranger · 21/09/2025 23:56

Libellousness · 21/09/2025 23:54

She is - and her late husband was - a conservative Christian influencer. A key tenet of Christianity is forgiving those who sin against us. It’s hardly surprising that she’s professing one of the key tenets of her faith.

Also, your choice of language - ‘many would struggle to do that’ - suggests that this is something that should be aimed for. But if you’re not a Christian, there’s no theological/ideological compulsion for you to forgive someone who has committed terrible crimes against you, so if it’s not going to bring you any peace, why would it be something to aim for?

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Exactly what I said 'many would struggle to do that' (forgiveness for the killer). Many or maybe even most people would struggle to forgive someone who killed their spouse.

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Chattanoogachoo · 21/09/2025 23:56

His murder has really brought home to me that so many seem to accept murder as acceptable/understandable.
I read an article which explained his murder in terms of the rise of fascism and it was Kirk who was described as the fascist not the murderer.We're living in very strange times.

strangerandstranger · 21/09/2025 23:54

awkwardasfuck · 21/09/2025 23:46

No no no, don't be disingenuous. You started yoir original post with "To people who said her husband was hateful and what they preached was hateful"

So what is it you're trying to say. Because he was hateful. That does not change.

And for what it's worth, she is just being puppeted by Trump's rancid regime. She doesn't get to choose what she says any more than she did when Kirk was alive.

If it makes you feel better Trump doesn't agree with her forgiving the killer. Its her words. Her choice. Some/many Christians do believe in forgiveness.

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Libellousness · 21/09/2025 23:54

strangerandstranger · 21/09/2025 23:30

Who knows. I doubt its up to her. However, to publicly say she forgives the killer.... many would struggle to do that.

She is - and her late husband was - a conservative Christian influencer. A key tenet of Christianity is forgiving those who sin against us. It’s hardly surprising that she’s professing one of the key tenets of her faith.

Also, your choice of language - ‘many would struggle to do that’ - suggests that this is something that should be aimed for. But if you’re not a Christian, there’s no theological/ideological compulsion for you to forgive someone who has committed terrible crimes against you, so if it’s not going to bring you any peace, why would it be something to aim for?

strangerandstranger · 21/09/2025 23:53

InterestedDad37 · 21/09/2025 23:47

👏 Fair play to her, she's changed from her initial (grieving) anger.
I'm an atheist and I think some of Kirk's views were abhorrent, but she's done this in the name of her faith, and so 👏👏 credit where it's due.

That's what I felt. Still people will hate her, regardless. That's on them.

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