Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Original poster

Charlie Kirks wife forgives the killer

891 replies

strangerandstranger · 21/09/2025 23:22

To people who said her husband was hateful and what they preached was hateful, she just forgave the killer, as God would. Powerful speech.

The messed up young man who thought shooting man he didn't like was the answer, will go to prison and no longer be with his boyfriend. Erika Kirk no longer has her husband and her children have list their father.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
17
BlushingBrightly · 22/09/2025 00:32

Irisheyes2 · 22/09/2025 00:30

They are stark raving mad. They are getting people killed in the UK we aren't allowed proper news they keep putting the same news on everywhere except the right wing papers keep your kids away from these people they are threatening kids this is not Godly they spare radicalising them

Show quote history

They? Who are you talking about?

aold · 22/09/2025 00:30

Irisheyes2 · 22/09/2025 00:26

The far right have had my kid doing stuff for them and I am terrified for his life because he doesn't want to be involved anymore and he's been threatened he's going on about God all the time and he was never religious, please please keep your kids away from Charlie kirks stuff and the far right and Farage, they are getting kids like mine hurt we can't even speak to a blackperson anymore it's gone crazy

this is exactly the kind of reactionary hard left rhetoric which resulted in Charlie’s death

BlushingBrightly · 22/09/2025 00:30

MrsSkylerWhite · 21/09/2025 23:57

Sure.
Or a lady with an agenda.

Show quote history

What agenda?

she is just being puppeted by Trump's rancid regime. She doesn't get to choose what she says any more than she did when Kirk was alive

Trump's not really a forgive the sinner sort of guy. That's not going to be a line he's scripted.

Irisheyes2 · 22/09/2025 00:30

LaurieFairyCake · 22/09/2025 00:22

She doesn’t forgive him, she SAYS she forgives him - it’s not the same.

she’s gone on record saying that she trusts the government to sentence him. She said she didn’t want to directly call for the death penalty in case she got to heaven and Jesus wouldn’t let her in saying:

”an eye for an eye, huh”

she said she wanted to be with Charlie so wouldn’t take the risk of Jesus not letting her be with him.

she has NO IDEA what heaven is like, no idea what Christian forgiveness is like. The idea she would barter with God is hideous, the idea she thinks God would prevent her being with her husband so she had to manipulate God in some way 🤷‍♀️

it’s all insanity, none of this is how God or forgiveness works

she’s not a Christian, at least not in any way I understand it.

Today is the international day of peace, let’s hope for some.

They are stark raving mad. They are getting people killed in the UK we aren't allowed proper news they keep putting the same news on everywhere except the right wing papers keep your kids away from these people they are threatening kids this is not Godly they spare radicalising them

aold · 22/09/2025 00:29

awkwardasfuck · 21/09/2025 23:28

He WAS hateful. Doesn't make it right that he was murdered, but he was genuinely an extremist with vile views.

Both can be true at the same time. Hope that helps.

Show quote history

tik tok is over there, off you go

Irisheyes2 · 22/09/2025 00:26

The far right have had my kid doing stuff for them and I am terrified for his life because he doesn't want to be involved anymore and he's been threatened he's going on about God all the time and he was never religious, please please keep your kids away from Charlie kirks stuff and the far right and Farage, they are getting kids like mine hurt we can't even speak to a blackperson anymore it's gone crazy

Original poster
strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:25

Thanks for the comments. Bed calls.

OP posts:
MoFadaCromulent · 22/09/2025 00:24

strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:21

So did I. I suspect many haven't seen it and it's automatic attack. I dont think I would be able to forgive someone who killed someone I loved. It sounded heartfelt.

Show quote history

I also don't think I'd be dancing a jig at a ball game after someone I "loved" had been killed either or start bragging about the remodeling job i had commissioned when someone asked how I was holding up either so it's very hard to judge with Trump

Calmomiletea · 22/09/2025 00:23

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Original poster
strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:23

strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:21

So did I. I suspect many haven't seen it and it's automatic attack. I dont think I would be able to forgive someone who killed someone I loved. It sounded heartfelt.

Show quote history

I misread your comment. I thought you felt she was heartfelt. I think Trump believes in the death penalty so he believes what he said. They have different views, one forgives and tge other doesn't, which hardly offers proof of being told what to day by Trump et al.

OP posts:
Fullfatandfortyplus · 22/09/2025 00:23

God bless Erika her children and Charlie’s family. The whole memorial was very moving but Erika was incredible.

LaurieFairyCake · 22/09/2025 00:22

She doesn’t forgive him, she SAYS she forgives him - it’s not the same.

she’s gone on record saying that she trusts the government to sentence him. She said she didn’t want to directly call for the death penalty in case she got to heaven and Jesus wouldn’t let her in saying:

”an eye for an eye, huh”

she said she wanted to be with Charlie so wouldn’t take the risk of Jesus not letting her be with him.

she has NO IDEA what heaven is like, no idea what Christian forgiveness is like. The idea she would barter with God is hideous, the idea she thinks God would prevent her being with her husband so she had to manipulate God in some way 🤷‍♀️

it’s all insanity, none of this is how God or forgiveness works

she’s not a Christian, at least not in any way I understand it.

Today is the international day of peace, let’s hope for some.

Original poster
strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:21

KnittyNell · 22/09/2025 00:18

I thought his speech was heartfelt and very honest.

Show quote history

So did I. I suspect many haven't seen it and it's automatic attack. I dont think I would be able to forgive someone who killed someone I loved. It sounded heartfelt.

OP posts:
Original poster
strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:19

LancashireButterPie · 22/09/2025 00:14

Hmm, Maybe her marketing team advised her that her first speech, declaring retribution, wasn't such a great look.
This is a big step in the right direction.

I hope she now campaigns for an end to guns, the acceptance of those with alternative lifestyles (love they neighbour as thyself) and an end to the death penalty (Let he who is without sin cast the first stone).

Or just maybe she believes that her God wants her to forgive.

OP posts:
keepthecake · 22/09/2025 00:18

Interesting that the clip on the BBC website is very bland. Shame that they don’t cover this amazing message if they’re going to cover her speech at all.

KnittyNell · 22/09/2025 00:18

strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:10

His first comment was he doesn't agree with her forgiving the killer. Yes, he's rambling on.

Show quote history

I thought his speech was heartfelt and very honest.

MoFadaCromulent · 22/09/2025 00:18

Calmomiletea · 22/09/2025 00:05

How many videos of Charlie's did you ever watch? The only way someone could equate what Charlie said as hateful is if they simply didn't agree with what he said. Such people confuse telling the truth with hate, which is actually the opposite of what it is: telling the truth when people will hate you for it is actually love. That's what CK sacrificed himself for, so that people like you who would hate him could hear the truth.

Face the truth.

Show quote history

You're presuming that what he said was truth.

You're setting up a false premise to equate those who disagree with him as disagreeing with the truth.

He was hateful, I watched many of his videos, he perpetuated many falsehoods.

None of that justifies his murder or diminishes the wrong the killer perpetrated

Original poster
strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:17

Hottchoc · 22/09/2025 00:14

Praying for her and Charlie's family. Utterly heartbreaking

I agree it is.

Killing people who share different views isn't the answer.

OP posts:
KnittyNell · 22/09/2025 00:16

IsTheRecyclingOut · 21/09/2025 23:26

Ok.

I dont know why we need another thread on him, he had hateful views.

What planet are you on?

SapphOhNo · 22/09/2025 00:16

Calmomiletea · 22/09/2025 00:13

So, how many videos of Charlie's have you actually watched? I'll repeat my question to each and every one who claims he was hateful.

If you want to know what truth is read the Bible.

Show quote history

Oh bore off with the bible thumping.

Original poster
strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:15

MoFadaCromulent · 22/09/2025 00:11

But you didn't frame it as his movement, it we are all, or all Republicans are hateful.

You said for people who said he was hateful. It's a faulty premise. Nothing his wife does after his death can make him more or less hateful.

In the same way I can't say that his wife's turning point USA branded message last week after his death proves that something he said 2 years ago is now objectively hateful and disingenuous and that it proves it was all a facade to profit off fundamentist Christian fear.

So you can't set up a combative "debate me" premise of "how stupid do you all feel now for saying this" and then retreat to the safety of "all I'm saying is people called her hateful and look at her forgiveness" when posters engage with the premise you elected to put forward.

Edited
Show quote history

OK, I apologise for not framing it correctly. Will that help? I did hear posters call the whole organisation hateful, she is part of that organisation and has shown forgiveness. I've never called anyone stupid or been rude to anyone.

OP posts:
MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/09/2025 00:15

Calmomiletea · 22/09/2025 00:13

So, how many videos of Charlie's have you actually watched? I'll repeat my question to each and every one who claims he was hateful.

If you want to know what truth is read the Bible.

Show quote history

OT or NT? Which cherries shall we pick?

Hottchoc · 22/09/2025 00:14

Praying for her and Charlie's family. Utterly heartbreaking

MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/09/2025 00:14

strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:10

His first comment was he doesn't agree with her forgiving the killer. Yes, he's rambling on.

Show quote history

So there is rank hypocrisy in the "movement" plain to see. If they are all on the side of "Christianity" as the foundation of US values, should he not be following her lead and also preaching forgiveness? Shows a typical lack of respect towards such an important and revered woman, don't you think?

KnittyNell · 22/09/2025 00:14

strangerandstranger · 21/09/2025 23:22

To people who said her husband was hateful and what they preached was hateful, she just forgave the killer, as God would. Powerful speech.

The messed up young man who thought shooting man he didn't like was the answer, will go to prison and no longer be with his boyfriend. Erika Kirk no longer has her husband and her children have list their father.

What an amazing woman Erika is.