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Charlie Kirks wife forgives the killer

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strangerandstranger · 21/09/2025 23:22

To people who said her husband was hateful and what they preached was hateful, she just forgave the killer, as God would. Powerful speech.

The messed up young man who thought shooting man he didn't like was the answer, will go to prison and no longer be with his boyfriend. Erika Kirk no longer has her husband and her children have list their father.

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xanthomelana · 22/09/2025 11:07

TeenLifeMum · 21/09/2025 23:35

Not forgiven the gays for loving the “wrong” sex though hey.

Probably because he had nothing to forgive because he never said what you are accusing him of. It’s nearly as bad as the people cherrypicking parts of his quote about empathy and sympathy but leaving the sympathy part out.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-gay-people-stoned/

Charlie Kirk didn't say gay people should be stoned to death

The Turning Point USA co-founder and conservative commentator was fatally shot while speaking at a Utah college.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-gay-people-stoned/

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 11:07

nomas · 22/09/2025 11:00

Even if calling Muslims stupid, Jews as controllers of immigration policy, black people as 'prowling' after white people, and saying women should only go to college to meet husband and have babies is really 'middle America', it doesn't make that view it right and exempt from criticism.

You only seem to be concerned about what affect your family, not the wider country and world.

why yes, I do care deeply about my family and any attempt to smear normal American Christians.

Like you are twisting Kirk’s words now in a smear attempt, but I understand. I know you prefer comfortable lies over the harsh truth.

nomas · 22/09/2025 11:04

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 10:58

Please show me anyone who celebrated her death. Nobody did. Nobody had ever heard of her. The worst was probably just blaming Gov Walz because he (iirc) had hired the guy.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/republican-senator-mike-lee-kirk-shooting-melissa-hortman

Do you want exampes from the cesspit that is X? I can oblige.

Utah Republican senator faces backlash over post condemning Kirk’s killing

Only months ago, Mike Lee had posted disparaging tweets after Democrat Melissa Hortman and her husband were fatally shot

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/republican-senator-mike-lee-kirk-shooting-melissa-hortman

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 11:04

5128gap · 22/09/2025 10:58

The issue isn't how many people decide to take up the right of gun ownership. Its the fact that's its a right than can be utilised by unstable and violent individuals, meaning they are far more dangerous than they would otherwise be.
The important correlation would be homicides by gun toting would be murderers, versus homicides by individuals with murderous intent, but no fire arm.
If TR hadn't had a fire arm, he'd still be in his bedroom hating the still living CK.

He was killed by an old hunting rifle, something that would not generally be restricted even under EU law.

You have plenty of scope to confiscate unlicensed guns, which are used in the majority of homicides. Stop and frisk was very effective in getting those off the street. But both Dems and GOP hate those laws, for very different reasons. But it is a very effective tactic. For me, I’d be very supportive of a resurgence of this strategy and iirc it’s being done in Washington DC now.

HaveItOffTilICough · 22/09/2025 11:01

ThatBlackCat · 22/09/2025 09:40

They don't believe they are "hating" the person though. They say it regularly themselves, they love the person but hate the 'sin'. There is a real serious problem with people seeing an adverse opinion as 'hate'. It's narrow-minded bigotry to ascribe 'hate' to a person's beliefs. Just because someone has a different view to you, doesn't mean they 'hate' you. Society has completely lost touch with what 'hate' actually means.

“Hate the sin, love the sinner” is a complete cop-out. If you didn’t hate me, you wouldn’t believe I was a sinner. You cannot hate a fundamental part of a person’s identity believe they can and should somehow change that identity and yet still claim you don’t hate them. It’s incompatible.

nomas · 22/09/2025 11:00

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 10:53

lot of hatred for a man who promoted very middle American values. When I hear people express indifference or even joy over his death, I know this is how they would react to my family dying in such a way.

Even if calling Muslims stupid, Jews as controllers of immigration policy, black people as 'prowling' after white people, and saying women should only go to college to meet husband and have babies is really 'middle America', it doesn't make that view it right and exempt from criticism.

You only seem to be concerned about what affect your family, not the wider country and world.

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 10:58

nomas · 22/09/2025 10:57

Yep, and at the same time they're sleep walking into a dictatorship.

Trump and allies are talking about classifying groups they disagree with as domestic terrorists and revoking tax-exempt status for non-profit organisations of rival political parties.

JD Vance has had companies sack anyone seen to be "celebrating Charlie's murder". Nothing about the people who celebrated the Democrat Melissa Hortman's murder, that's fine apparently.

Please show me anyone who celebrated her death. Nobody did. Nobody had ever heard of her. The worst was probably just blaming Gov Walz because he (iirc) had hired the guy.

5128gap · 22/09/2025 10:58

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 10:46

Gun ownership percentages by state is actually not correlated with gun-related homicides. It’s only directly linked to gun-related suicides.

The issue isn't how many people decide to take up the right of gun ownership. Its the fact that's its a right than can be utilised by unstable and violent individuals, meaning they are far more dangerous than they would otherwise be.
The important correlation would be homicides by gun toting would be murderers, versus homicides by individuals with murderous intent, but no fire arm.
If TR hadn't had a fire arm, he'd still be in his bedroom hating the still living CK.

MsTanyaMcQuoid · 22/09/2025 10:57

Imagine being the kind of woman who could love such a man in the first place.

nomas · 22/09/2025 10:57

5128gap · 22/09/2025 10:39

Do you not understand the difference between an individual on MN expressing contempt for a man with right wing views and the political stance that is left wing? Are you genuinely so ill informed about left wing politics that you think this post is 'what it's about'? There is much information available on the sociological and economic ideas that underpin left wing policies with which to broaden your knowledge.

Yep, and at the same time they're sleep walking into a dictatorship.

Trump and allies are talking about classifying groups they disagree with as domestic terrorists and revoking tax-exempt status for non-profit organisations of rival political parties.

JD Vance has had companies sack anyone seen to be "celebrating Charlie's murder". Nothing about the people who celebrated the Democrat Melissa Hortman's murder, that's fine apparently.

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 10:55

nomas · 22/09/2025 10:48

Which left wing journalist has said Turning Point should be shut down?

I agree the TWAW debacle is a disaster for women, but I don't think Twitter was at fault, was it? JK Rowling was never banned.

The people that were banned were people like Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins because they were inciting racial hatred, which has a very specific definition of endangering the lives of people.

free speech is only feee when it parrots correct left wing dogma.

Again, the evidence doesn't back this up. Trump is the censorist.

Megan Murphy was banned from pre-Elon twitter for ‘misgendering’ it happened to smaller fish for sure. She was the one that really brought the ‘Jessica Yaniv’ case to light.

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 10:53

5128gap · 22/09/2025 10:39

Do you not understand the difference between an individual on MN expressing contempt for a man with right wing views and the political stance that is left wing? Are you genuinely so ill informed about left wing politics that you think this post is 'what it's about'? There is much information available on the sociological and economic ideas that underpin left wing policies with which to broaden your knowledge.

lot of hatred for a man who promoted very middle American values. When I hear people express indifference or even joy over his death, I know this is how they would react to my family dying in such a way.

nomas · 22/09/2025 10:50

EasternStandard · 22/09/2025 10:48

Why? Don’t you think EK is grieving. What’s there to cry laugh about?

I'm referring to the OP, not EK. And why didn't you challenge @OliviaEyeLiveEre on her emoji use? Mine was a response to hers.

nomas · 22/09/2025 10:48

aold · 22/09/2025 10:39

I’m completely against censorship but you can’t say the left hasn’t been exploiting it for years in the USA. And here.

Old Twitter was run by a version of the thought police.

Mainstream beliefs like the fact that transwomen are male, were removed and posters banned.

I wonder how many left wing journalists moaning about Kimmel agree that Turning Point should have a public platform? I mean, many political activists like CK took to social media to avoid the natural pitfalls of legacy media: ie, that free speech is only feee when it parrots correct left wing dogma.

Which left wing journalist has said Turning Point should be shut down?

I agree the TWAW debacle is a disaster for women, but I don't think Twitter was at fault, was it? JK Rowling was never banned.

The people that were banned were people like Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins because they were inciting racial hatred, which has a very specific definition of endangering the lives of people.

free speech is only feee when it parrots correct left wing dogma.

Again, the evidence doesn't back this up. Trump is the censorist.

EasternStandard · 22/09/2025 10:48

nomas · 22/09/2025 10:43

Why? I thought this post was spot on, and I'm happy it was the first post 😂

Why? Don’t you think EK is grieving. What’s there to cry laugh about?

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 10:46

BlueandPinkSwan · 22/09/2025 10:39

I'm right wing thanks.
I'm not interested in the sobbing and wailing over idiots who bang on about the right to bear arms. I don't hate them I disgree with them.
America is a young country and so child like in many ways. Guns are like toys to so many peeps and they will keep them regardless.
I have American relatives, and they are obsessed with their rights to bear arms.
Live by the gun, die by it.

Gun ownership percentages by state is actually not correlated with gun-related homicides. It’s only directly linked to gun-related suicides.

nomas · 22/09/2025 10:43

OliviaEyeLiveEre · 22/09/2025 10:41

If ever there was a ‘U ok hun’ fail, then this is it! 😂

Why? I thought this post was spot on, and I'm happy it was the first post 😂

awkwardasfuck · 22/09/2025 10:43

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 10:30

Is this what leftism is all about? They accuse us of being hateful but what is this?

No, its not what "leftism" is about. Don't be simplistic.

OliviaEyeLiveEre · 22/09/2025 10:41

awkwardasfuck · 21/09/2025 23:24

U ok hun...

If ever there was a ‘U ok hun’ fail, then this is it! 😂

aold · 22/09/2025 10:39

nomas · 22/09/2025 10:21

They told Kimmel he can come back if he apologises to Charlie Kirk’s family.

Trump has suggested the licenses of TV networks that give him ‘bad publicity” should have their licenses ‘taken away’.

So it clearly is about censorship.

It’s not religion that’s under censorship, it’s challenging the right.

I’m completely against censorship but you can’t say the left hasn’t been exploiting it for years in the USA. And here.

Old Twitter was run by a version of the thought police.

Mainstream beliefs like the fact that transwomen are male, were removed and posters banned.

I wonder how many left wing journalists moaning about Kimmel agree that Turning Point should have a public platform? I mean, many political activists like CK took to social media to avoid the natural pitfalls of legacy media: ie, that free speech is only feee when it parrots correct left wing dogma.

5128gap · 22/09/2025 10:39

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 10:30

Is this what leftism is all about? They accuse us of being hateful but what is this?

Do you not understand the difference between an individual on MN expressing contempt for a man with right wing views and the political stance that is left wing? Are you genuinely so ill informed about left wing politics that you think this post is 'what it's about'? There is much information available on the sociological and economic ideas that underpin left wing policies with which to broaden your knowledge.

BlueandPinkSwan · 22/09/2025 10:39

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 10:30

Is this what leftism is all about? They accuse us of being hateful but what is this?

I'm right wing thanks.
I'm not interested in the sobbing and wailing over idiots who bang on about the right to bear arms. I don't hate them I disgree with them.
America is a young country and so child like in many ways. Guns are like toys to so many peeps and they will keep them regardless.
I have American relatives, and they are obsessed with their rights to bear arms.
Live by the gun, die by it.

EasternStandard · 22/09/2025 10:39

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This is a depressing take.

sanluca · 22/09/2025 10:37

HaveItOffTilICough · 22/09/2025 10:07

Your “Hating hate IS hate” is what I consider to be tripe. It shouldn’t be that hard to work out. As for “name calling” - where?

You still haven’t answered why you think I should “question my feelings”, when you yourself said in your very next post “A compromise does not need to be reached in how one person feels about something.”

Because I wanted to understand what it is about my post that you believed was tripe. Now I understand that you interpreted my post as stating 'hating hate is hate' which is an misinterpration of my meaning.

So thank you for explaining. I will not try and explain my standpoint again which you misinterpreted because I need to work and I don't feel you are open to a discussion about looking for the grey in your black and white world.

nomas · 22/09/2025 10:36

AzurePanda · 22/09/2025 10:31

@nomas his initial speech was September 12th, a day later it was widely reported that the trans room mate had been cooperating so it seems likely the Governor would have been kept informed. By then the “left leaning” comments had also been reported .

What left leaning comments?