Charlie Kirks wife forgives the killer

I am not arguing that they have a dissenting view just that off-topic posts derail a thread.

Otherwise what's the point of having threads at all. I'm sure that if I posted stuff about Gaza on a "is my DH being unfaithful" thread you'd consider that wrong.

Or do you disagree ??

On this one in particular there was the irony of someone posting that they didn't want another thread on CK when it wasn't about him originally, but by that comment made sure the thread became almost entirely about him...

I have watched his videos at length, just because he is articulate and says things in a nice manner doesnt mean what he says isnt hateful.

He was none of those things. He was a positive male influence unlike the Tate brothers.

No. It later came out that the shooter was not a leftist, initially it was thought that he was due to having the ‘No Kings’ rally flyers in his car.

But he never directed hateful rhetoric at Ms Hortman, and you seem to now acknowledge.

Whereas Dowd basically directed this awful rhetoric towards Charlie, implying he brought his own murder on himself.

Can you post a link?

Ah the irony.

Poster says "watch videos at length"

You post tiny clips from within discussions.

The "black youths roaming" one relates to a blatant misrepresentation of the facts about an argument between a white woman (pregnant) and a black youths. It relates to an action by the black youths who baited the woman when she rented a city-bike. And in which the context was stripped so she got vilified and lost her job. I think its more to do with idiots creating content bait they can monetise

But you want to take one tiny comment about Chicago in this wider context and try to imply that "blacks roaming" was the subject or proposition of the discussion.

Shame on you for your distortions.

I dont have time to refute your others but I can tell you some of them at least we're railing against lower scrutiny for hiring certain groups of people, and the concern is whether standards are being reduced to facilitate that. You can argue that he's wrong but you shouldn't misrepresent that concern as racist or sexist.

While I don't condone his murder I am glad there is one less misogynist, homophone preaching to boys and young men on the Internet.

AIBU is not an echo chamber, people have the right to agree or disagree with whatever you post.

If you disagree with that, go start your own chat website.

Rep. Sen. Mike Lee tweeted “This is what happens when Marxists don’t get their way.” He used Hortman's death as a dig at the left, when the killer was a right wing Republican man.

Mike Lee deleted his offensive tweets and faced zero repercussions.

Yet Matthew Dowd, a political analyst on MSNBC, was fired for saying on air “I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions,” he said on the network. “You can’t stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have saying these awful words, and then not expect awful actions to take place. And that’s the unfortunate environment we are in.”

Do you not see the hypocrisy?

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Lol, you're losing it, that makes zero sense. Time for those meds you mentioned 😂

I think the point is that this thread is about the wife and her statements.

Someone then said that "we dont need another thread about this hateful man".

And then some here apparently want to continue vocalising their hatred of CK when this thread is about forgiveness not hate.

I hope that's clearer for you.

If you want to continue the debate about whether CK was good or bad, go start your own thread.

Hear, hear.

So why don't you post what he said then?

The thing you don't seem to understand is that everyone cares about their family. Everyone deserves to live safely, and free from racial, misogynistic and religious hatred. You and your American Christian family are not special.

It’s quite difficult to “twist” someone’s words when they are there coming from his mouth all over the internet.

That you find his values to be normal and Christian confirms my belief that religion is dangerous.

I'm making a wider point that all the hand wringing about how terrible it is that people just won't talk things through instead of resorting to violence is entirely pointless, preaching to the choir, given that most people of the left and the right already support peaceful campaigning over shooting their opponents. Otherwise there would be a blood bath.
However, you will always have individuals who are unstable and a potential threat to the safety of others. All the talk in the world won't remove their motive for violence, so you have to remove or at least reduce their means and opportunity. And as you don't know who they are, the only realistic way is to remove or at least reduce the means and opportunity from everyone.

If you're happy with spreading hatred, you need the feds 😂

Who said anything about what she feels or judged? I just stated a fact. Often people just say the words. Because they do.

If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022
Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023
If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024
If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023

Nah..nothing hateful there.

Idk how people can conclude what EK feels and are so quick to judge

Often people just say the words ‘I forgive’. just saying it is easy. Most people who say it spend a lifetime consumed because saying it and actually doing it are not the same. We’ve heard people say they forgive a killer before but they don’t really, not in their hearts.

He didn’t have hateful views. Go and watch his videos at length.

If you’re happy and you know it, it’s your meds. 😂

It was directed at Gov Walz. He never mentioned Hortman, certainly never implied she deserved it. But if you read it, you would have seen that.

So again. You are either repeating bad information or you are trying to muddy the waters. Why?