Charlie Kirks wife forgives the killer

So what did I say that was aggressive?
Or are you just mud slinging?

Yes because you claim no one on this thread has said that his views on gun ownership was hateful and you are wrong.

Going to apologise?

I'm not sure that bussing insurrectionists to the Capitol is anti-violence either.

Yes. Unlicensed guns to be specific.

Stop and frisk is very effective. And I have said this is a great strategy, over and over again in this thread.

Australian gun stats for example. Long term trends.
1 in 100,000 people die from firearms per year, most of those are suicides. A few accidents. 1 in a million people die from firearm murder.
USA firearms are the leading cause of childhood death. Nowhere else has school shootings like the USA nor does anywhere else have the mass public shootings like the USA.

Did you mean to quote me?

One example of what?

What steps could the Mayor take?

Get rid of guns? 😁

Did that make you feel better????

I'm dyslexic. So well done you!

Crime is already down in DC. I think it’s acceptable to let the national guard take over if the local government is unable or unwilling to take action. He’s threatened to do the same in Chicago. Let’s hope that gets the mayor to actually take steps to make the city safer.

(but considering it’s Brandon Johnson, probably not)

This is off topic but if I get shot to death and my husband just 'forgives the killer' after a week, I will COME BACK AND HAUNT THE BASTARD

Omg at least try to avenge my death for a little while 🙄🙄🙄

HaveItOffTilICough · Yesterday 07:43

awkwardasfuck · Yesterday 07:37
What narrative is that then
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The one where, despite preaching hate, saying they’d force raped minors into giving birth and claiming it’s worth a few deaths to allow any Tom, Dick or Charlie to own a gun, they present themselves as loving and kind Christians.
And people will swallow it. Look at this thread.

Just ONE example.

Livestock need to be shot. Livestock predators need to be shot.
Sporting competitions.
A few people need them for their work (police, security guards, etc.)
Other than that, not much.

@DdraigGoch how is Trump crashing the economy? You do know that Biden issued over 4,000 pardons, the vast majority relating to criminal convictions?

She's referring to the American right to sunbathe. The lesser known 101st amendment.

The right to BEAR arms

You want the President to do something about crime? What part of pardoning insurrectionists, pardoning rich fraudsters, and crashing the economy while embezzelling a fortune for himself will achieve that?

It's not self evident at all.

As I said above, it's risk v benefit. What are the benefits of having guns? Genuine question. The risks are obvious.

I’m very surprised that people have focused on Kirk’s statement that a certain number of gun deaths is an acceptable price to pay for gun ownership. That’s a completely self evident statement and applies to pretty much everything in society from all forms of transport, alcohol, cigarettes, various sporting pursuits and so on.

Sorry? Quotes about what? Convos about guns?

Maybe it's just right wingers, then!

So you can't back up your claim? Hmmm...

Charlie Kirk did have hateful views. But I think people were probably referring to his anti gay, black and trans stances. I'm not sure any would claim a pro gun stance is hateful. A pro gun stance is seemingly stupid, though! You can quote me on that one.

The gun death question wasn't a gotcha. It's a logical conclusion to the debate. Well it is to anyone not blinded by their second amendment rights!

@5128gapMy perspective is that he answered her but thought it was a bit of a waste if a question (I agree) - I mean compare it to the first question asked by the young lady in the Oxford debate which was thoughtful and well put together. It’s a very strong feeling to have about a person based on their tone and stance. If you can’t provide a credible justification for your arguments such as quotes and detailed discussion it does unfortunately make it difficult to have a meaningful debate with you.

I'm not American and in what way was I aggressive?

No I'm not trawling back through hundreds of posts for you.

Are you denying that people on this thread have expressed that they found Charlie Kirks views hateful because that's as absurd as asking how many gun deaths are acceptable over and over again as though it is some kind of gotcha?

You right wing Americans are quite aggressive!

But, yes, I see the point. And I'm not really close enough to the data to see the impact of Dem policies. Or even what the policies are.

Obviously, like everything, there will be nuance with the crime stats in these cities.