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To feel devastated by this news?

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Whentherainwashesyouclean · 21/09/2025 20:02

Long story short I became ill with an unknown virus last summer. I’ve never felt like myself or truly well since. I’ve since developed a chronic UTI that I’m on long term antibiotics for.

I’ve been back and forwards to the doctors with crippling fatigue and joint pain along with nausea, headaches and generally feeling poorly. I can have a few good weeks and then boom, it comes back.

Ive now been diagnosed with fibromyalgia. From the research I’ve done it isn’t curable and I feel absolutely devastated that this will be my new normal now.

Im even more frustrated as I don’t drink alcohol, smoke, take drugs or eat ultra processed foods or anything unhealthy. I’ve exercised my whole life. Unfortunately I can only manage walking and Pilates now and that’s becoming too painful.

I work full time and am a single parent to a preteen. I’m terrified of what could happen if I can’t work. I have a mortgage. I’m already struggling so much to get through the days.

Has anyone got any stories of reversing this? I need some hope right now.

Thanks if you made it to the end! X

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BackToLurk · 22/09/2025 09:59

Toesy · 22/09/2025 09:28

Could you expand on the Neurosym machine experience pls?

The big improvement for him is with the crashing fatigue and brain fog. He does it twice a day and really notices when he hasn’t done it. It allows him to do other stuff that helps generally with mental state, little things like getting out with the dog. But also just helps him get on with life. There are probably other vagus nerve things you could do eg meditation, but he knew realistically he wouldn’t do them consistently. This he can do when doing other stuff, eg watching tv, reading.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/09/2025 09:29

Toesy · 22/09/2025 09:28

Could you expand on the Neurosym machine experience pls?

I found Nurosym made me worse, even on a really low setting. It also messed with my sleep.

Toesy · 22/09/2025 09:28

BackToLurk · 22/09/2025 07:32

My partner had some success managing gut health - kimchi, supplements - but the major help was a NeuroSym machine. Pricey but a solid long money back guarantee if it doesn’t do anything for you.

Could you expand on the Neurosym machine experience pls?

anyolddinosaur · 22/09/2025 09:17

Hyperbaric Oxygen shows some promise as a treatment, although the studies tend to be small scale and with slightly mixed results. If there is an MS centre you can get to and you can fund the cost it it would be worth trying.

There is increasing recognition of the importance of looking after your gut for immunity. As you are on antibiotics its especially important. I favour optibac prebiotics.

You should be referred again, it's important to rule out everything before accepting a fibromyalgia diagnosis.

safetyfreak · 22/09/2025 09:14

My mum was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, and years down the line, she has been diagnosed with other autoimmune diseases. I do believe Fibromyalgia is a symptom of other diseases, unfortunately.

You should have a referral to a rheumatologist specialist.

NettleandBramble · 22/09/2025 09:10

I had chronic utis with tonsillitis and a permanent low grade fever in my teens and 20s for about 13 years. I fixed it by overhauling my diet (a strict exclusion diet followed by carefully reintroducing foods) , some carefully chosen supplements that were particularly aimed at healing the bladder lining and supporting my immune system, eventually getting off the antibiotic rollercoaster. I did all this at the point it was looking like I may have to give up work.
I got to the point where medical intervention was going to be more and more intrusive. I was questioning whether I would ever have children as it took up all the time I wasn't at work looking after myself. The pain was low enough that I could mostly battle through in the day but it kept me awake at night.

Ecoli bacteria which is the biggest cause of UTI can become dormant in the bladder, forming a 'sludge' to hide, then it can come out in force again once the antibiotic treatment is over, which is why constant antibiotics are recommended. This was a really new treatment when I was ill so wasn't offered it and in hindsight this was a good thing for me as I found a permanent fix.

This is probably just one piece of the puzzle but I thought my story might help.
As people have mentioned, fibromyalgia is an if nothing else fits diagnosis and yet you have a number of things that don't seem to have been followed up, including a folate deficiency. Please look at the link between folate and b12 - your b12 could be showing high without actually being utilised effectively in your body.
The UTI 's may be resolvable like mine were and may be a different part of the puzzle - as could the antibiotics which will impact on gut health.
The trouble is, we never have a practitioner that can look at us as a complete person and help us put all those pieces together.

BarilynBordeaux · 22/09/2025 08:54

I have fibromyalgia on top of my other life limiting illness and it can be hard, but please - if possible - don’t despair! Like another PP I have improved dramatically with the right meds for me (amiltryptiline) and pacing. I’m even about to go into an interview for a new job as I’ve been getting so much better.

It’s disorientating and gutting as a diagnosis (and im one of those ‘after rigorous testing and multiple previous diagnosis’ types) but I try to think of it as it’s a change in landscape not the end of my world. Always around for a dm if you want to talk x

MustTryHarderAndHarder · 22/09/2025 08:50

Whentherainwashesyouclean · 21/09/2025 22:15

No but I have ordered a kit from medichecks to look into this.

Lymes disease is quite unusual in the UK, so GPs don't always think about it.

I remember watching a programme where someone went back to her home country in Eastern Europe and was diagnosed there bc it is much more common there.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 22/09/2025 08:18

Whentherainwashesyouclean · 22/09/2025 06:44

I’m not depressed

Some antidepressants can help with long term and sporadic pains.

ClutchingPearlz · 22/09/2025 07:36

Lollytea655 · 21/09/2025 20:48

Who diagnosed you with fibromyalgia OP?

Mainly asking because it is sort of “if nothing else is found” diagnosis, there is no test for it, it is essentially if they’ve checked everything else and can’t find anything then they say it is fibromyalgia. That’s okay- IF they actually have checked everything else. If it is a GP that has given you this diagnosis I’d be very wary of just accepting it, misdiagnosis rates of fibromyalgia are very high from primary care (so GP’s), around 20-38%.

This would be my concern. Without vigorous testing fibromyalgia often means we just don't know what's wrong with you. A bit like the one size fits all gastroenteritis they were diagnosing everyone with in the 1980s even if you had cancer.

BackToLurk · 22/09/2025 07:32

My partner had some success managing gut health - kimchi, supplements - but the major help was a NeuroSym machine. Pricey but a solid long money back guarantee if it doesn’t do anything for you.

GreenGodiva · 22/09/2025 07:29

I’ve got multiple auto immune issues. While I’m not “fixed” I’ve found no end of improvements by improving my diet. I’ve added fermented foods like home made kefir , yogurt and sauerkraut. It all very easy when you get into the swing of things. I make sauerkraut once every 6-8 weeks and then it keeps in the fridge and I do a pint of yogurt /kefir every week. At the same time add inulin add psyllium husk to your diet as this will really help your good got fours to flourish.

I eat porridge with 5 types of mixed nuts or mixed frozen fruit for breakfast. I alternate days.

snack is yogurt with flax seed or chia seed and chopped dates.

lunch is a sliced boiled egg, mixed salad, sauerkraut and protein like ham/tuna/chicken.

snack is fruit or 70+% dark chocolate.

evening meal is whatever we are having like shepherds pie/pea and ham soup with sourdough/pasta/Scouse but I serve everything with a side or two of extra vegetables and I aim for as much diversity as possible while reducing simple carbs.

i still have treats. I make carrot cake and is packed with carrots, apple, coconut sugar and flour and chopped nuts but without the guilt. I have found that my issues are much more stable and that following a healthy diet along with a decent supplement regime it’s controllable .

Bikergran · 22/09/2025 07:19

Who has diagnosed this? If it's your GP, it's not enough. Ask for a referral to a rheumatologist, preferably one with an interest in connective tissue diseases, they may come up.with a different diagnosis, or at least some helpful treatment. Good luck.

Iamthemoom · 22/09/2025 07:05

Dmsandfloatydress · 21/09/2025 22:22

I had a long term bladder pain problem. I later discovered the whole problem was caused by the Depo injection which I received the same time as catching a UTI. Bladder needs Estrogen to function optimally. As you're in your late 30s you may be perimenopausal do have low Estrogen. See if you can get some Estrogen pessaries or patches and check if they help your recovery? Also long tern antibiotics will play havoc with your general health although you will need them for an I bedded infection. Make sure you are drinking lots of kefir to support your gut throughout the process as thrush will make your bladder worse

I was just going to mention this. I was in Peri (unknowingly) and had persistent uti. Once I got on HRT (estrogen gel on inner thighs as high up as possible) it went. I also took pumpkin seed extract which definitively helped. Antibiotics did absolutely nothing except make me feel terrible. I rebuilt microbiome and took Garden of Life vaginal probiotics which were amazing. After becoming quite unwell post virally after flu I tested positive to EBV and did the Medical Medium EBV diet recommended by a friend which got rid of the post viral symptoms in about 2-3 months and I felt amazing. (Just to be clear I don’t buy into how/where he says he gets his information but the diet really worked for me!) https://uk.findthedeal.org/p/B07CZ5ZDFT?channel=ms-shopping&device=m&network=o&campaign=677443934&adgroup=1161086218216070&target=pla-4576167425043487&ad=72568236409348&ad-extension=&location=69090&msclkid=d87104201b0416785d356cf0fd119fe7

mrsjg · 22/09/2025 07:03

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Whentherainwashesyouclean · 22/09/2025 07:00

badskinkid · 22/09/2025 00:24

It's no surprise you're feeling devastated, OP. It's one thing when you've been dealing with it your whole life as I have, having never known anything different, but I imagine coming to terms with it after a previously clean bill of health must be incredibly hard. I'll leave the discussions on differential diagnosis to the many brilliant PPs who have already covered it, and instead answer as if it was a certainty. I think this applies to many chronic illnesses, anyway, so I hope it might be helpful to hear.

It is hard. As you've said, you can have a few good weeks before it hits again, and those cycles often feel relentless. But it's not set in stone. I have friends with fibromyalgia, and another with ME/CFS. They don't just have good days and bad days, but good months and bad months, and good years and bad years. During a bad time it can be as you describe, only a few good weeks at a time if that, but during better times it becomes a lot more bearable. Not easy, but bearable. Catching any other illness can make fibromyalgia flare up, so I imagine the chronic UTI can't be helping matters, but it's unlikely to stay exactly as it now for the rest of your life. As well as physical illnesses, it's important to keep on top of your mental and emotional health too. I'm not saying it's "all in your head", I know fibromyalgia is an illness with very real symptoms, but stress or depression can trigger flare-ups with many chronic health issues. I imagine it feels impossible in the wake of a very difficult time, but accessing support will help you feel better overall. Some kind of talking therapy could also help you process your feelings about the diagnosis, as well as hopefully improving your mental wellbeing to prevent stress-induced flares.

Sometimes illnesses like fibromyalgia can be a case of swings and roundabouts. If you can find coping strategies and treatments to prevent one symptom you might end up developing another, but it's a case of figuring out which elements you can best handle and which treatments work best for you. No, fibromyalgia is technically considered incurable, but that doesn't always mean untreatable.

So no, I don't think you're being unreasonable at all, you're responding to a really difficult and traumatic time. Give yourself permission to be upset, and angry, and devastated. Give yourself the grace to grieve.

Thank you so much for such a kind and empathetic response.

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Octavia64 · 22/09/2025 06:59

Op, you said you didn’t want to take pain meds.

i was in an accident eleven years ago and have tried an extensive variety of pain meds.

i personally found morphine and codeine not helpful because I couldn’t really interact with the real world through them - they made me feel very spaced out. Like you I worked in education although I was in secondary.

there are alternatives.

the SSRI drugs are often prescribed for long term pain. They are anti depressants but the evidence is that they “turn down” the pain input into the brain. So I take duloxetine and long term (weeks and months) it really does help with the pain.

i have naproxen sodium (like a stronger version of ibuprofen) for days when duloxetine doesn’t manage the pain. It doesn’t give me that nasty spaced out feeling, the pain just goes away and I have more energy.

it’s worth you looking into what options you have.

Whentherainwashesyouclean · 22/09/2025 06:57

BrownFlower2 · 21/09/2025 23:50

Whentherainwashesyouclean I had the chronic uti for a similar time before starting treatment and I really empathise, I'd never felt so low. Are the antibiotics helping?

They have definitely eradicated the most severe symptoms but i am currently in a flare which is a stark reminder of how bad it can get!

I am sorry you also suffered. How long were you on treatment?

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Whentherainwashesyouclean · 22/09/2025 06:55

Shakemesexy · 21/09/2025 23:32

My sister got diagnosed with this after splitting from her husband. As soon as she got past the grief she suddenly was recovered - no issues again. It’s a label given when they don’t know what’s wrong, and it’s usually a mental illness cause

That’s quite an outdated understanding. From what I’ve read a stressful event or illness can trigger fibromyalgia, but it’s actually a nervous system disorder and patients have autoantibodies (that healthy people don’t) that makes them more susceptible to pain.

New research from the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology & Neuroscience at King’s College London has shown that many of the symptoms in fibromyalgia syndrome are caused by antibodies that increase the activity of pain-sensing nerves throughout the body.
The results show that fibromyalgia is a disease of the immune system, rather than the currently held view that it originates in the brain.

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Whentherainwashesyouclean · 22/09/2025 06:49

MollFlandersKids · 21/09/2025 23:31

This is exactly what's happened to me- covid last July, felt awful since with the symptoms you've described.
Sorry I can't be much help- I've been to the GP, had blood tests because I keep succumbing to viruses which liiiinger- and bloods all fine. I haven't pursued it further as I know they won't be able to help.
I'm going to be completely honest- isn't fibromyalgia just a diagnosis of exclusion? I've always been very sceptical of it, yet here I am!!
I don't mean you're not ill- believe me, I know you are, but my take is that it's more a post viral "thing" and it's put us at a very low threshold for anything and everything, and I don't think it helps that you have a diagnosis that's not even proveable test-wise but has sent you into a panic! That's only going to make you feel worse. And there's a very definite emotional side to this- and I don't mean just being pissed off with being ill.
Obviously I'm just speculating and we can never rule out other causes- but gosh! your symptoms mirror mine.
I'm going to have 'flu and covid vaccines this winter- didn't have either last year and was v unwell over xmas and some months after.
I honestly think it's covid that gave me a battering last year and now my immune system is playing catch-up- and getting beaten back down again by various other viruses which I'd normally have better immunity against- hopefully the vaccines will enable me to catch a fkn break!
So I don't even mean long covid per se- I just think it's a battered immune system that can eventually recover.
I wish you well.

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The virus last summer definitely was the start for me. I was in peak health before it doing weight training and hard bootcamps 4 times a week. I can barely walk to work now without feeling like I’ve ran a marathon!

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Whentherainwashesyouclean · 22/09/2025 06:44

Shakemesexy · 21/09/2025 23:30

Try some anti depressants.

I’m not depressed

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Whentherainwashesyouclean · 22/09/2025 06:42

MySweetMaggie · 21/09/2025 23:13

Well it looks like antibiotics forever for you. Sorry to hear that.

The clinic said their regiment is 385 days of treatment. I also have to take an antiseptic called Hiprex alongside the antibiotics.

I am devastated about this also as I know what they can do to the body but there is no other way. I am back to see the consultant next month and hoping my infection levels have dropped so they can look to lower my dose.

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Whentherainwashesyouclean · 22/09/2025 06:37

Downsouthupnorth · 21/09/2025 23:05

I was also diagnosed with fybromyalgia and like you I was devastated. I saw two rheumatologists and numerous professionals as I found it very hard to accept. I had a young family and was working albeit with a lot of time off sick. I was later diagnosed with CFS also. I had a very difficult few years before I was able to start to get a hold on the conditions. I have had a lot of support, I attended a course at my local pain clinic it was one to one with a physio/OT which helped in my understanding, attended the local pain group meet ups when I could and I am currently attending an online course with the local ME/CFS clinic which is reinforcing pacing and calming the central nervous system through breathing and meditation which is also what the OT at the pain clinic recommended. I would say like other posters to make sure you have not had another illness missed/misdiagnosed, to see a rheumatologist for diagnosis of fybromyalgia (if you haven’t already) and to get your vitamin levels checked and do some research on what they should be. People with fybromyalgia are prone to low vit D, my gp told me mine was slightly low but at the time I was seeing an osteopath who was trained in nutrition and she explained that it was actually very low as guidelines are not upto date. Taking vitamin d and vit k made a big difference at this point as low vit d was causing me additional pain more time off work it felt like the pain was in my bones it was terrible. I still take the vitamins recommended by the perrins technique which is for CFS but I feel they help me overall, I cannot say if they will help you as they are recommended for CFS but they help with making my overall wellbeing feeling slightly better along with magnesium at night and an iron tonic in the morning for energy. I also take low dose naltrexone which has made a huge difference. I still get flare ups but they don’t last as long. I still have to pace and rest an awful lot but I’m coping a lot better. I’m still in work but working from home mainly (ask your workplace for an access to work assessment ) and no longer having prolonged periods of time off work due to flare ups. If I had to physically go into work every day I wouldn’t manage. If your role at work means you cannot work from home see if your workplace can offer you an alternative role. If work are difficult seek advice from your union if you are in one, you will be covered regarding disability discrimination legislation if work are difficult. I still can get set back quite easily, any virus/additional illness will really knock me, and recovery is harder than it was so it’s possible that your recurrent UTIs are contributing to you feeling bad, I would push for a referral to a specialist for that. A late night will set me back or any increase in activity in my usual routine, I gave up alcohol as it would take me days to get over a small amount but that could be the CFS as it’s linked to alcohol intolerance. I have also changed my lifestyle a lot I really only try to do what’s necessary now. I got a cleaner as I have to chose what I use my energy on. I go out if I have to and it’s family related, don’t see friends much but I keep in touch by text and they understand. I do regular facials and look after my skin which obviously doesn’t help with fybromyalgia but it boosts my mood and makes me feel better! It can be lonely but there is support out there, try to get a referral to your local pain clinic and read up on techniques of management. Look at vitamins and low dose naltrexone. I am the same with exercise, short gentle walks is all I can manage. I did private Pilates for a while as I couldn’t keep up with a group any longer the teacher was great we did very very gentle movements but it is an expense I can’t manage at the moment. I also go through bouts of having acupuncture which I find helpful but make sure you get a good practitioner. This helps especially with headaches and chronic pain (another diagnosis). I am seeing the physio at the CFS clinic soon who runs a gentle exercise class online. Duloxetine was helpful for a long time but the side effects became too much and it lost efficacy. There are other pain meds that may help talk to your gp. If you are on anti biotics long term I would look at a probiotic also. Sleep helps but unfortunately mine isn’t good with these illnesses but I notice a difference when I’ve slept better, try to relax at night no tv etc and hot bath this will set you up for a better nights sleep. Epsom salts are meant to be good, can’t say I notice a huge difference but I use them anyway. Elemis muscle soak as a treat helps with pain (it’s expensive so only bought as a treat) Hot baths for the pain in general (do gentle stretches in the hot water ) and a heated blanket to help with pain. Good diet like you already have. Out of everything I would say the low dose naltrexone made the biggest difference but it doesn’t work on its own it’s a combination and pacing is very important. Good luck you will get through this . Sorry for the long post but I’ve been where you are and I remember the feeling xx

Thank you so much for such a kind response. I’m so pleased you have found some acceptance and are on the most part, doing well.

I work in education in a primary school so I’m not able to work from home. It is exhausting and stressful and full of germs which I don’t think helps. In the 21 years prior to getting the virus last year I’d never had a stomach bug etc. Now the slightest thing makes me ill.

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Relaxd · 22/09/2025 06:12

Whentherainwashesyouclean · 21/09/2025 22:51

Would that not have shown in my ANA blood test though? That was what the gp said. That my autoimmune markers were normal.

Sorry about your news. It’s hard to have a long term pain condition. Do ask to see pain management to help get on top of it, and also keep on at rheumatology to rule out other seronegative conditions. I had negative ANA for a few years and was diagnosed with seronegative RA initially - until ANA got caught positive in a recent hospitalisation when we also noticed a face rash and now they agree it’s likely lupus. At least in my case I was already on the right medication but the dose needed adjustment. I’m still not totally convinced what it is, but it’s always frustrating when bloods are all negative and you feel you aren’t being listened to. So, sharing as perhaps worth asking if they can keep the option of other autoimmune conditions open and have periodic blood work in case it changes.

61here · 22/09/2025 05:42

I was diagnosed with fibro many years ago and it comes with many other conditions. It's taken years to find the right "cocktail" of drugs to ge able to manage it. Also I had CBT therapy and a pain management clinic. I find magnesium supplements. CBD gummies and massage help. It's not curable but it is manageable.

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