Starmer’s support for Palestine

Anyone know why Egypt and Jordan don't want the refugees?

I'd be amazed if 1% of posters were.

Supporting Palestinian statehood is not the same as supporting Hamas.

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I’m pretty sure the vast majority of Palestinians would be happy with a two state solution. I think you mean that the Israelis would not, which is entirely different.

Absolutely this.
Enough of this violence. Move forward.

it would be a much darker time you were a small child in Gaza.

You might be confusing areas A and C.

Well under International law, it’s the 1967 Borders!

But don’t let that stop Israel- they have just announced a huge illegal settlement on Palestinian land in the West Bank.

Completely agree. It’s a disgrace.

Keir Starmer is naive and pathetic.

Also the title really needs amending. It's not "Starmers" support etc etc. It is the UKs support for Palestine. In the form of a decision taken by a democratically elected government in accordance with the laws of the UK.

You may not like it, but it's childish to pretend it's something that Starmer "just did" without going through the proper channels. He's not Donald Trump for fucks sake.

I make this point because I could not have opposed the Iraq war more within the constraints of the law back in 2003. And I mean opposed. However there were plenty of people around then telling me to suck it up as it was a democratic decision and if I didn't like it why didn't I go and live in Russia.

How times change, eh ?

Nothing about this nightmare is representative of "Jews". The world knows this, so stop throwing the term anti-semitism around to try to shut people up.

Jewish people don't want this either.

Very few people "just hate Jews"

Such disgusting lies.

Antisemitism (the world’s oldest hatred) has existed and persisted in many forms for over 2,000 years. In all time periods, all over the world.

Jewish people have been persecuted for thousands of years.

Do you consider it to have just disappeared, overnight, of it’s own volition? Has it just suddenly ceased to be a problem? After all this time? Just, disapperated into the ether?

Where has all the antisemitism gone?

100% agree

It is really quite outrageous to say that recognising a Palestinian state is incompatible with honouring the holocaust.
I honestly don’t know how it is possible to come to this conclusion.
All the people I know honour the holocaust, the victims of 9/11 and the victims of the genocide in Gaza. To pick and choose is to deny humanity

Are you familiar with the 1918 Irish General Election?

Not much recently- hence the huge concern.

And the hostages? Did you mean free Palestine and free the Hostages Hamas are torturing?

The whole thing is based on the lie that the Palestinian Arabs actually want their own state. They don't. What they really want is the annihilation of Israel.

If it would have ever really been about a State of Palestine, they wouldn't have rejected every single offer and opportunity, starting with the proposed Partition Plan.

In the West Bank and Gaza there is currently, and always has been, extremely low support for a two state solution. The only solution ever acceptable to the majority of them was a final solution, ie all of the Levant being a Palestinian state.

What is especially deplorable about the western leaders signaling their virtue in recognising Palestine, is that the Palestinian Arabs haven't even done the basic steps in building a state. We have this weird situation where Starmer and some other idiots are telling a group of people that they recognise their state, when those people don't even recognise it!

Netanyahu has gone way too far. Most people sympathised with the Israeli’s after the Oct 7 attack by Hamas but his response is wholly disproportionate and he is now the terrorist. No better than Putin as far as I’m concerned. My sympathies are now firmly with the Palestinian civilians

I don't know the answer but we can't simply write off a whole population of people because a terrorist organisation uses them as their cover.

We have to, somehow, recognise these people deserve to be protected.

You’re not alone in these views, but you should be, and with any luck, you increasingly will be as the world begins to wake up and see what the Palestinians have had to endure for almost 80 years.

I agree that Hamas are terrorists and should not be allowed to govern anywhere.

but Isreal have take their retaliation far beyond where they should have. They are committing genocide and anything that can help protect the ordinary people of Palestine is a good thing right now.

So does that include the hostages Hamas is torturing or do you not count them?