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Starmer’s support for Palestine

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Steph888 · 21/09/2025 15:39

Am I alone in seeing this as one of the darkest days in UK history?

Never before did I think I’d end up living under a government who reward terrorism.

Starmer and Labour are grotesque. History will not be kind to them. They have now empowered all terrorists and their supporters.

We deserve such better than this reprehensible government. They disgust me.

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ByShyRaven · 21/09/2025 17:22

Croakymccroakyvoice · 21/09/2025 16:56

Antisemitism exists. It would be ridiculous to deny that. However, IRL I haven't come across a single person in my 50 years who has expressed an anti Jewish sentiment (I have seen it online though). I have heard a lot of anti Muslim sentiment though. So I dont think Antisemitism is as widespread as Islamaphobia.

Neither is acceptable IMO.

100%

Horserider5678 · 21/09/2025 17:22

Whatado · 21/09/2025 15:45

Personally I would find that fact they have willing and quite publicly supported a modern day version of Hitler undertake a genocide in the world view more disgusting.

The Israeli government make me want to believe hell is an actual place.

What has been allowed to happen in Palestine will go down in History as one of the vilest episodes of modern day history.

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However, Israel are not without fault and are getting worse! It’s absolutely right that Palestine is recognised as a country! Have you not seen the starving children on the news?

MissFitss · 21/09/2025 17:22

Sixpence39 · 21/09/2025 17:19

There are 20 hostages. Millions of Palestinians are suffering (and have been for decades). Why do you think the hostages are so special that everything must be about them at all times?

Jeez, I can't believe what you wrote.

Do you KNOW what Hamas did to women and babies? It was vile.

I don't agree with genocide but Hamas started all of this and they STILL won't release hostages.

SirHumphreyRocks · 21/09/2025 17:22

EllaDisenchanted · 21/09/2025 17:17

It's being minimise and downplayed. The threat to British Jews is very very real.
Comments like antisemitism is awful etc etc but followed up by saying something like criticising Israel is not antisemitism. The subtext is clear.

Criticising the actions of the Israeli government is not anti-semitism. It's humanity! Nobody gets a free pass on their behaviour, be they Jewish, Christian, Muslim or atheist. You cannot silence the world by saying that criticism of anyone Jewish is anti-semitism.

OhMaria2 · 21/09/2025 17:21

YourAmplePlumPoster · 21/09/2025 17:16

I'll tell you why so you can brush up on your history. Egypt has a problem with the Muslim Brotherhood which has direct links to Hamas. Jordan expelled Ararat as he and his Palestinian brethren tried to overthrow the King when they were guests in his country. They then went to Lebanon and started a civil war against Christians. That's why nobody wants them.

So its best if they stay in their own country unmolested by Israelis then isnt it.

gottakeeponmoving · 21/09/2025 17:21

Starmer is a disgrace.

PollyPaintsFlowers · 21/09/2025 17:21

TicklishReader · 21/09/2025 17:17

Those people were cunts.

It still doesn't justify supporting genocide.

Those are the exact same people going on the hate marches, probably even running them

We know that the leader of the PSC applied to run a march as soon as 6/10 happened

But we're repeatedly told they're not antisemitic

LeonMccogh · 21/09/2025 17:20

If Netanyahu wanted the hostages back they’d have been home in time for lunch on October 8th.

Sixpence39 · 21/09/2025 17:19

Comedycook · 21/09/2025 16:08

Like the hostages should be free I assume?

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There are 20 hostages. Millions of Palestinians are suffering (and have been for decades). Why do you think the hostages are so special that everything must be about them at all times?

MissFitss · 21/09/2025 17:19

He's done this to save his own skin from his back benchers (nothing new there) and to try to save seats in certain constituencies later down the line.

It's always about him.

Keir first, country second.

No morals, no backbone, no principles.

He's a pathetic, weak man.

This will haunt him just like Blair is haunted by Iraq.

caringcarer · 21/09/2025 17:18

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 21/09/2025 17:12

It is indeed a dark day. Irrespective of what you think of Palestine and Israel, what Starmer has done is bow down to terrorists. This was Hamas’s plan all along to garner the sympathy of the useful idiots. I’m so angry at this man who has sold my country and its ethics down the river. He is stupid and immoral. He has rewarded the rape, torture and murder of women and children. Disgusting human being.

I just hope a future PM will reverse his decision making.

EllaDisenchanted · 21/09/2025 17:17

Croakymccroakyvoice · 21/09/2025 17:12

I dont think anyone is saying Antisemitism is OK or justified. It's abhorrent.

It's being minimise and downplayed. The threat to British Jews is very very real.
Comments like antisemitism is awful etc etc but followed up by saying something like criticising Israel is not antisemitism. The subtext is clear.

TicklishReader · 21/09/2025 17:17

PollyPaintsFlowers · 21/09/2025 17:15

This reminds me of the people partying in the streets of London as news of October 7th broke

Those people were cunts.

It still doesn't justify supporting genocide.

Lua · 21/09/2025 17:16

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So if a person is against russia invasion of ukraine, are they antichristian?

Tired of people pulling the antisemite card. These are generals with weapons killing loads of people. Their religion is irrelevant. Is still wrong.

EsmaCannonball · 21/09/2025 17:16

Starmer is a terrible, weak, pathetic man. He's played sectarian Labour party politics with a crucial issue of foreign policy, rewarding a massacre and incentivising terrorists to carry on torturing and starving hostages. By appeasing Islamists he has made life in the UK more corrupted and dangerous. Those men you saw barracking and threatening Jess Phillips? They have power over Labour now. The Muslim Brotherhood money and networks are gaining influence.

The Arabs in that region have repeatedly been offered their own state - on incredibly generous terms, disadvantageous to Israel - and have repeatedly rejected the idea, often torpedoing the process with a fresh intifada. These people are more invested with destroying the state of Israel than they are in founding the state of Palestine.

caringcarer · 21/09/2025 17:16

ByShyRaven · 21/09/2025 17:10

Apart from Boris, Liz Truss, Dave Cameron, May.

I don't recall any of those costing the UK £3 trillion.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 21/09/2025 17:16

OhMaria2 · 21/09/2025 17:01

Because they'll never be allowed to go home? Why should they help israel with its ethnic cleansing?What racist excuse did you want to insert?

I'll tell you why so you can brush up on your history. Egypt has a problem with the Muslim Brotherhood which has direct links to Hamas. Jordan expelled Ararat as he and his Palestinian brethren tried to overthrow the King when they were guests in his country. They then went to Lebanon and started a civil war against Christians. That's why nobody wants them.

GeneralPeter · 21/09/2025 17:16

TicklishReader · 21/09/2025 17:11

"Those dead children would have grown up to be terrorists anyway."

If you’ve read my comment as offering some simple moral absolution for civilian deaths, you’ve seriously mis-read it.

sleepwouldbenice · 21/09/2025 17:15

lnks · 21/09/2025 15:42

You know its not one or the other. You can think that what Hamas did is horrendous whilst also recognising the need to protect the ordinary men, women and children in Palestine

Exactly this

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 21/09/2025 17:15

Moonlightbean123 · 21/09/2025 17:12

I think you really need to educate yourself on the history of the Palestinians and how the Israeli government has been conducting themselves in the 75 years plus illegal occupation. Are you aware that many years before oct 7th, the Israeli government has been accused of abusing the Palestinians taking children on bogus charges (throwing stones at soldiers) and then placing them in prison for many years, they've been accused of sexual abuse against children and not to mention the abuse from the settlers, and the British government are the force behind the forced displacement of these ppl 75 years ago. Hamas are beyond vile, so is the Israeli government. Not the ppl. Not the civilians. They all deserve peace. Israel has no right to be is gaza for 75 years.. where was your disgust then ? Your thread is shameful. Begrudging these ppl an end to war simply because you don't like Muslims.

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Maybe you should educate yourself of 5000 years of Jewish history and stop bolstering the anti semitic torturers. Rapists and murders.

Starmer and anyone who supports him are appeasers

PollyPaintsFlowers · 21/09/2025 17:15

Lua · 21/09/2025 17:14

What disgusts me, is people watching kids and families decimated and thinking it is OK.

This reminds me of the people partying in the streets of London as news of October 7th broke

Lua · 21/09/2025 17:14

What disgusts me, is people watching kids and families decimated and thinking it is OK.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 21/09/2025 17:14

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Moonlightbean123 · 21/09/2025 17:12

I think you really need to educate yourself on the history of the Palestinians and how the Israeli government has been conducting themselves in the 75 years plus illegal occupation. Are you aware that many years before oct 7th, the Israeli government has been accused of abusing the Palestinians taking children on bogus charges (throwing stones at soldiers) and then placing them in prison for many years, they've been accused of sexual abuse against children and not to mention the abuse from the settlers, and the British government are the force behind the forced displacement of these ppl 75 years ago. Hamas are beyond vile, so is the Israeli government. Not the ppl. Not the civilians. They all deserve peace. Israel has no right to be is gaza for 75 years.. where was your disgust then ? Your thread is shameful. Begrudging these ppl an end to war simply because you don't like Muslims.