Starmer’s support for Palestine

I stand with Israel. They're not the ones raping children, beheading babies, and videoing themselves celebrating it.

Saying 'genocide' a lot doesn't conjure one up.

There are actual genocides going on in China, Myanmar, Sudan, Yemen, Syria ...... No Jews, no news.

It is possible to hate Islamic terrorism and be horrified at what is happening to the Palestinians. The ratio of dead Israelis to dead Palestinians has passed 1:50. It’s not just the bombing, shelling, starving. It’s also the harrying by settlers, the loss
of land. As a non Jew/ non Arab, the feeling that any criticism of Israel will be met by suspicions or accusations of anti semitism, that nothing can be said about it, just adds to the feeling of frustration and anger.

I’m very happy. This is a positive step. 🇵🇸

It's the finding of a poll by JL Partners and it's been quite widely reported. If you don't like a Telegraph link, do a news search.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/20/nine-out-of-10-britons-do-not-back-palestine-recognition/

I must admit it surprised me. I looked up JL Partners but they are registered with the polling regulatory body and I can't see any suggestion that the poll was somehow corrupt. But it surprised me.

Starmer is a terrible, weak, pathetic man. He's played sectarian Labour party politics with a crucial issue of foreign policy, rewarding a massacre and incentivising terrorists to carry on torturing and starving hostages. By appeasing Islamists he has made life in the UK more corrupted and dangerous. Those men you saw barracking and threatening Jess Phillips? They have power over Labour now. The Muslim Brotherhood money and networks are gaining influence.

The Arabs in that region have repeatedly been offered their own state - on incredibly generous terms, disadvantageous to Israel - and have repeatedly rejected the idea, often torpedoing the process with a fresh intifada. These people are more invested with destroying the state of Israel than they are in founding the state of Palestine.

Recognising Palestine as a state is completely wrong. We are basically rewarding them for the October 7th attacks.

Where did you get this statistic?

I stand with Israel. They're not the ones raping children, beheading babies, and videoing themselves celebrating it.

No it isn't. I am absolutely bloody certain that every country is held to the standard of not committing genocide.

Did you not notice that most of Netanyahu’s current lot are misogynist, racist, homophobic, violent religious ideologues?

There are undoubtedly a few anti-Semites among the marchers. No one is denying anti-Semitism exists.

The majority of the people protesting just want the genocide to stop. No hidden agenda.

Trying to compare the practise of slavery to antisemitism is really disingenuous of you. You must know that?

We are fortunately able to rise above our history.

Antisemetism isn’t history. It was only 80 years ago an attempt was made to exterminate every Jewish person from the planet. Living memory for some people. Again, so very, very disingenuous.

If you want to believe that most people hate Jews then you do you, but I literally don't ever come across them.

I didn’t say the majorly of people hate Jews, but it’s certainly not “very few people”. I don’t ever come across racists, but wouldn’t be so naive or ignorant as to deny their existence.

And just to be clear I know lots of Muslims who don't hate Jews and I know lots of Jews who hate what the Israeli government are doing. The world is such a complex place, isn't it?

Does that seem complex to you?

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/53016-britons-support-recognising-palestinian-statehood-by-44-to-18

The latest one on 19th September said the support for recognition was 44% to 18% against.

I'm Jewish and think this is long overdue. Palestinians deserve a state, they don't deserve to have the possibility taken away because of the awful action a minority took on 7 October on their behalf.

If the Israeli government did not want there to be recognition of Palestine they could have retaliated without turning to genocide, without mass starvation. It has made me ashamed to feel people might associate me with Israel but most of all made me feel total horror of what they have done to Gaza, actions that betray the memory of my family members murdered by Nazis in the Shoah.

This is only a start, but it's something. I can't say I am optimistic, because Netanyahu has assured a generation of hatred towards Israel from any surviving Gazans - I really wouldn't blame them.

No, not really https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/14/israel-appears-set-to-approve-controversial-settlement-of-3400-homes-in-west-bank

YouGov iirc, I'll did it out.

YouGov iirc, I'll did it out.

There are undoubtedly a few anti-Semites among the marchers. No one is denying anti-Semitism exists.

The majority of the people protesting just want the genocide to stop. No hidden agenda.

Supporting Palestinian statehood is not the same as supporting Hamas.

I think you really need to educate yourself on the history of the Palestinians and how the Israeli government has been conducting themselves in the 75 years plus illegal occupation. Are you aware that many years before oct 7th, the Israeli government has been accused of abusing the Palestinians taking children on bogus charges (throwing stones at soldiers) and then placing them in prison for many years, they've been accused of sexual abuse against children and not to mention the abuse from the settlers, and the British government are the force behind the forced displacement of these ppl 75 years ago. Hamas are beyond vile, so is the Israeli government. Not the ppl. Not the civilians. They all deserve peace. Israel has no right to be is gaza for 75 years.. where was your disgust then ? Your thread is shameful. Begrudging these ppl an end to war simply because you don't like Muslims.

YouGov iirc, I'll did it out.