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Starmer’s support for Palestine

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Steph888 · 21/09/2025 15:39

Am I alone in seeing this as one of the darkest days in UK history?

Never before did I think I’d end up living under a government who reward terrorism.

Starmer and Labour are grotesque. History will not be kind to them. They have now empowered all terrorists and their supporters.

We deserve such better than this reprehensible government. They disgust me.

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Martymcfly24 · 21/09/2025 18:10

peasporrige · 21/09/2025 18:03

@Martymcfly24 Trucks were stopped at the border , the UN couldn't get them to distribute.

That is incorrect.
The aid was allowed into Gaza

news.sky.com/story/aid-is-sitting-idle-in-gaza-where-there-is-now-widespread-malnutrition-13401481

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/where-is-the-outrage-over-the-aid-trucks-hijacked-in-gaza/

So there was never a complete blockade of food?? Ever?

And did you actually read that sky article :
Israel may be keen to highlight the parked up trucks on the Gazan side - but aid groups say getting the aid to the border is the easy part.

They say distribution is caught up in Israel's refusal to sufficiently guarantee safe passage to the vehicles, given it controls well over 80% of the land in an active war zone.

And we all know the IDF absolutely love using aid workers for target practice.

ElizaMulvil · 21/09/2025 18:08

PollyPaintsFlowers · 21/09/2025 17:07

For all those dismissing antisemitism being at the root of 'Pro-Palestinianism', just take a look at how many of those wonderful humanitarians on the hate marches are holding banners calling for the release of the hostages or condemning Hamas for their actions. You'll find more antisemitic imagery on the marches than you'll find anything pro-Jew

Many Jews in UK have marched with the Supporters of Palestinians to protest against what Netanyahu and his extreme right wing Government are doing eg Jewish Voice for Labour members. Are they anti Semitic too? What about the hundreds of Rabbis and Cantors in the US and the Jewish diaspora who have protested against the actions of the Israeli Government? Are they anti Semitic or just upholding the true humane tradition of Judaism?

Upstartled · 21/09/2025 18:07

TicklishReader · 21/09/2025 18:05

It is utter bollocks either way.

Right. 🙄

Osmosisfreight · 21/09/2025 18:07

wrongthinker · 21/09/2025 18:05

They're not being starved. That's just not true.

As for civilian casualities of war, well yes. That tends to happen. It's very sad. But weird how Israel is somehow supposed to conduct a war with zero casualties, isn't it? Maybe the Palestinians shouldn't have committed such a horrific massacre, and maybe they shouldn't have sent back dead babies and laughed about it, maybe they shouldn't have videoed starving Israelis being made to dig their own graves - Maybe it's insane to expect to be able to do these things and not suffer the consequences.

But THEY ARE being starved, your so blinded by your loyalty to Israel you refuse to see any fault in them

YourAmplePlumPoster · 21/09/2025 18:07

Israel offered the West Bank back to Jordan and Gaza back to Egypt. They both said, no thanks. Kuwait expelled all the Palestinians in 91 for their support of Saddam's invasion. They don't want them either.

Wordsmithery · 21/09/2025 18:06

Personally I've felt deeply ashamed of living in a country that did not speak out against genocide and starving babies. These have been dark days indeed.

wrongthinker · 21/09/2025 18:05

Eyesopenwideawake · 21/09/2025 17:54

Nah, just shooting and starving and terrorising them over many months.

Remember the doctor who was told her 5 children had been blown to bits while she was saving lives? Or the guy who went to register his twins birth and got home to find his wife and new borns dead?

You must be so proud.

They're not being starved. That's just not true.

As for civilian casualities of war, well yes. That tends to happen. It's very sad. But weird how Israel is somehow supposed to conduct a war with zero casualties, isn't it? Maybe the Palestinians shouldn't have committed such a horrific massacre, and maybe they shouldn't have sent back dead babies and laughed about it, maybe they shouldn't have videoed starving Israelis being made to dig their own graves - Maybe it's insane to expect to be able to do these things and not suffer the consequences.

TicklishReader · 21/09/2025 18:05

Upstartled · 21/09/2025 18:03

From the Telegraph article that I not only linked to but added a share token too.

It is utter bollocks either way.

ShootingCoyotesOutTheWindow · 21/09/2025 18:05

Steph888 · 21/09/2025 16:05

They literally voted in Hamas to govern them. The parallels with the IRA are ridiculously disingenuous.

Yes, and Hamas literally lied to the Palestinians about how they would govern.

Thegreyhound · 21/09/2025 18:05

PurpleChrayn · 21/09/2025 17:42

I’m a Jew and I’ve started the process today to move to Israel.

Truly dark times.

Are you planning on settling in the West Bank?

Psychologymam · 21/09/2025 18:05

Upbraidy · 21/09/2025 16:18

Freedom fighters? Anyone who murders an innocent civilian is not a freedom fighter.

Does that include members of the British army? Because a previous prime minister has apologised on behalf of the British army for their murder of innocent civilians in Derry. Do you hold them to the same standard?

JoiedeMay · 21/09/2025 18:05

peasporrige · 21/09/2025 17:46

If they are getting starved then there is a food distribution problem with the UN and other NGO's

If they are getting 'blown up' then that's due to Hamas using them as 'human shields'.

You forget that Hamas don't care. They want to destroy the State of Israel and aren't bothered who gets in the way.

I suppose you haven't seen the videos of Israelis blowing up bouncy castles and eating popcorn in the middle of the road so aid trucks can't get past. Or those where the "aid boxes" are just boxes of body bags. Or those where IDF soldiers have strapped Palestinian children to the front of their tanks to act as human shields (before Oct 7). You will always see what you want to see... And by the way, Hamas didn't exist until the 80s - Israel's crimes far precede that.

peasporrige · 21/09/2025 18:03

@Martymcfly24 Trucks were stopped at the border , the UN couldn't get them to distribute.

That is incorrect.
The aid was allowed into Gaza

news.sky.com/story/aid-is-sitting-idle-in-gaza-where-there-is-now-widespread-malnutrition-13401481

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/where-is-the-outrage-over-the-aid-trucks-hijacked-in-gaza/

Upstartled · 21/09/2025 18:03

TicklishReader · 21/09/2025 18:02

Oop. Busted. Grin

From the Telegraph article that I not only linked to but added a share token too.

ShootingCoyotesOutTheWindow · 21/09/2025 18:03

@Steph888 Hamas are terrorists. Netanyahu and his team are terrorists. It’s that simple.

TicklishReader · 21/09/2025 18:02

Matronic6 · 21/09/2025 17:55

Strange. I just went on to their website and their poll has these exact numbers.

Where did you get them from?

Oop. Busted. Grin

Namechangerage · 21/09/2025 18:01

Steph888 · 21/09/2025 16:05

They literally voted in Hamas to govern them. The parallels with the IRA are ridiculously disingenuous.

Did all the children vote them in?

childofthe607080s · 21/09/2025 18:00

Who stated this? What back in around 1945? Don’t you think it’s a tad .. immature? Regressive? To be harking back to injustices done so long ago as justification for genocide?

LivelyCrab · 21/09/2025 18:00

wrongthinker · 21/09/2025 17:35

I stand with Israel. They're not the ones raping children, beheading babies, and videoing themselves celebrating it.

Nor are the thousands of children that are being killed in Palestine.

willowtree99 · 21/09/2025 17:58

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Eyesopenwideawake · 21/09/2025 17:58

@YourSpryOrca Thank you.

FairKoala · 21/09/2025 17:57

lnks · 21/09/2025 15:42

You know its not one or the other. You can think that what Hamas did is horrendous whilst also recognising the need to protect the ordinary men, women and children in Palestine

But these ordinary men and women of Palestine were fully behind Hamas.

OhMaria2 · 21/09/2025 17:56

PollyPaintsFlowers · 21/09/2025 17:23

Do you think they could stop killing Israelis then?

Is this a joke?

YourSpryOrca · 21/09/2025 17:56

I want to preface this by saying I am Jewish and thoroughly ashamed of what our community has become.

If you only care about the murder and starvation of one set of people, you do not care about murder or starvation, you care about narrative.

Using the 7th October and the hostages to justify the mass killings, displacements, humiliation and collective punishment carried out by Israel on Gaza shows that you don’t care about war crimes, you care about narrative.

If your heart breaks for the images of starving hostages but not starving children clamouring for food, you don’t care about starvation as a weapon of war, you care about narrative.

If you were devastated when Hamas murdered innocent people in their homes, but not when Israel murdered innocent Palestinians in theirs, you don’t care about the murder of innocent people, you care about narrative.

If you mourned for the Bibas twins, but not poor Hind who was shot by the IDF while begging for someone to save her, you do not care about the death of innocent children, you care about narrative.

If you are equating the entire Palestinian people with Hamas and endorsing collective punishment of a population of over 2 million for the murder of 1195 people on 7 October, by that same logic, what punishment do the people of Israel deserve for the killings of 43990 civilians (using Israeli data), including 18,500 children? Especially when you consider compulsory military duty for the Israeli population who are therefore complicit in a genocide. Again, if you support mass deaths and collective punishment against one group of people, but not another, you don’t care about learning the lessons from the Holocaust, you care about narrative.

Matronic6 · 21/09/2025 17:55

Upstartled · 21/09/2025 17:50

Nope.

Strange. I just went on to their website and their poll has these exact numbers.

Where did you get them from?

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