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To have nothing further to do with them?

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Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:09

I have one DC who only has one cousin (child of DH’s sister). I’ve always encouraged friendship on the basis that eventually they’ll be each other’s only family.

Both DC are 7. They love each other and are so excited when they get the chance to play together. But I’ve noticed over the past few years that SIL and BIL are increasingly not keen to facilitate any relationship. Visits are further and further apart.

We haven’t seen them for six months. I offered to have their DC to stay over the summer and they refused. I offered to take their DC on holiday with us and they refused. I invited them over for the day, suggested I could bring DC over to theirs for the day, but they always had an excuse. I offered to pick up and drop off their DC to make it easy for them but the answer was still no.

Their DC had a birthday last week. I thought it was odd that they weren’t having a party because they always do. They arranged to come over today with a birthday cake for a little tea party with PIL.

Anyway, their DC has upset my DC by talking about the fantastic birthday party yesterday. The party that they obviously hid from us and didn’t even mention to PIL in the family WhatsApp. Because they didn’t want us to know, because our DC wasn’t invited.

Understandably our DC has got quite upset at not being invited to their beloved cousin’s party this year. And I honestly don’t understand why. But this is just the latest in a long list, they clearly don’t want anything to do with us and I don’t understand why they’ve even come over today?

So I’ve gone nuclear. I refuse to have anything further to do with them. I went upstairs out of the way, I haven’t spoken to them since their DC announced this was their second party but they weren’t allowed to talk about the first party because it was a secret. I’ve left the family WhatsApp and blocked them on social media. I am just done with them.

AIBU to say I’m not having anything further to do with them, and neither is DC? If my DC isn’t good enough to be invited to the party yesterday then why have they come over today? I am so angry and upset. And DH is sitting downstairs having tea with them like everything is ok, because he doesn’t want to cause a fuss. Blaming me for going off on one. But it’s not me who has been nasty and excluded a child from a party.

OP posts:
Tastaturen · 21/09/2025 16:01

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:53

No idea. Probably because neurotypical people don’t like neurodivergent people.

Massive drip feed OP.

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 16:00

Quandri · 21/09/2025 15:58

In what way are you and your child ND?

Autism (Asperger’s).

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PoemPeeps · 21/09/2025 16:00

It sounds hurtful OP. But who knows maybe the cousins will have a relationship in the future. Things change sometimes. Maybe it’s not the parents but their child who wasn’t keen. Or maybe the parents want to have a more casual relationship with you ie. nothing to do with the children. Just keep your distance, don’t do invites for now.

ThisUniqueRoseRobin · 21/09/2025 16:00

InsectsMatter · 21/09/2025 15:36

not very nice of them OP, I can see why you’re hurt.

I completely agree.

mindutopia · 21/09/2025 16:00

You sound way too intense. I’d be super creeped out if someone wanted to take my 7 year old on holiday to force a relationship with their child. That’s a bit weird.

They’re cousins with parents who don’t sound very close. Who cares if they’re close? Who cares if they don’t have other close family? They will have friends and partners and children maybe and no one will be thinking about a distant cousin. I have a whole boatload of cousins on both sides (I’d guess at least 30). I could not even tell you what one of them is called. Couldn’t even take a guess. I haven’t seen a single one in at least 30 years. Not at all bothered. I am not lonely. I have Dh and my dc and lots of friends and Dh’s family.

Tastaturen · 21/09/2025 16:00

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:49

I’m just fed up. Everyone else has mum friends and their kids play together. I can accept myself and DC being excluded by others, but it’s hurtful when family does it as well. If they don’t want to be friends with us then they can bugger off completely, I’m sick of trying.

While that sounds hard, you ard the only one who can change this (by making friends), it's not the responsibility of your in-laws. Join some clubs. Geg some hobbies.

FrangipaniBlue · 21/09/2025 15:59

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:33

It’s horrible being an only child. I am one myself. Once your parents and grandparents are dead, you have to spend Christmas alone and you have nobody. I don’t want that for my DC or theirs. It’s nice to have family who you spend time with and are close to.

I’ve done my best but they basically don’t want anything to do with us or our DC. Which is really offensive.

Absolute rubbish.

I’m an only child, both of my parents and all grandparents are deceased.

I’m not on my own by any stretch of the imagination!

I have a small circle of close friends and a wider circle of friends who I socialise and do many activities with.

I holiday with my friends as well as DH and DS.

I spend Christmas with DS, DH and all of DH family, they are my family now.

lessglittermoremud · 21/09/2025 15:59

It’s tricky, my youngest doesn’t invite cousins to the birthday party we hold each year, he invites his school friends.
He adores his cousins, one of which is an only child and they aren’t that far apart in age (all between 3 years of each other)
We don’t invite family members to birthday parties as they wouldn’t know the other children there, so the birthday child would have to make sure they weren’t left out.
We Instead hold a family party as well for cousins, aunts/uncles and grandparents so we can all catch up that way.
I think your In laws probably aren’t as bothered about the only child thing as you are and some need to facilitate visits to create a strong bond.
I get why you’re a little upset in general about the lack of effort, it would be nice for the children if they get on, to see each other on a regular basis.
However I’m with them on the birthday party, I wouldn’t have invited your child either if it was a party full of school friends. Your child would have known no one else there.

Screenager · 21/09/2025 15:59

ByPeachPeer · 21/09/2025 15:13

If your reaction is typical of your behaviour I can see why they've distanced themselves from you

I agree. Does your dc tantrum too?

lessee167 · 21/09/2025 15:59

Please don’t but your most off to spite your face. Take a deep breath calm down then go downstairs. Apologise for your over reaction and communicate like an adult.

They probably wanted a class party, that’s really common at 7/8. They are celebrating with you today. Don’t let your insecurities damage the family relationship further

CremeEggThief · 21/09/2025 15:59

Sorry OP, I do think YABU in your reaction to this, although I can see why you were upset that they don't think the same of the relationship as you do. They have been a bit insensitive in my opinion, but you are giving them all the power by showing them how upset you are now.

Just give them some space and hopefully things will settle down in time. 🤞

luckylavender · 21/09/2025 15:58

I think you have read the room incorrectly. You’ve pushed & pushed which has driven them away. And going nuclear probably proves what they already think.

SusiQ18472638 · 21/09/2025 15:58

In my family cousins used to be invited to birthday parties when the children were little but not as they got older and parties got smaller / involved a small number of their school friends. The cousin would just feel left out and awkward if all the other children are friends. Are you completely sure the cousin is as keen as your child to spend time together? My daughter really struggles with one of her cousins and so doesn’t want to see her as much as they get older

NeverEnterFromTheBackDoor · 21/09/2025 15:58

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:56

It doesn’t cost extra to take another child. We’re already paying for petrol and accommodation. A small amount of food is the only extra expense. A party, on the other hand, costs hundreds of pounds.

Huh?

my daughters pasty cost me £120.

it'll be less expensive than a holiday where you're paying for fuel, accommodation and food?

this is nuts

Quandri · 21/09/2025 15:58

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:53

No idea. Probably because neurotypical people don’t like neurodivergent people.

In what way are you and your child ND?

MotherMary14 · 21/09/2025 15:58

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:53

No idea. Probably because neurotypical people don’t like neurodivergent people.

Wow, that's some sweeping statement! Hugely unfair on NT people, and I say that as someone who is also ND! Perhaps your bluntness is an issue for some?

Tastaturen · 21/09/2025 15:57

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:42

DH wants me to be quiet and not cause a fuss, and just not bother with them any more in future.

I am absolutely fed up with being bullied and excluded throughout my life, and it’s hurt me deeply to see the same happening to my DC. And from a family member too.

DC isn't being bullied and excluded!

Octavia64 · 21/09/2025 15:57

It is completely normal to have multiple birthday celebrations, one for family and one for friends.

if you have never invited their DC to a “proper” birthday party (soft play, village hall etc) then it’s really very unreasonable of you to throw your toys out of the pram that your DC wasn’t invited to theirs.

they have done nothing wrong.

many people do not have a lot of family. It doesn’t mean they are alone. They create friends and family.

my brother emigrated to NZ and has a lovely wife and kids and has made many friends.

NeverEnterFromTheBackDoor · 21/09/2025 15:57

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:53

No idea. Probably because neurotypical people don’t like neurodivergent people.

Oh for goodness sake stop being so overdramatic.

samarrange · 21/09/2025 15:57

I think it depends on how important cousin-ship is to you. In some cultures it's a big deal, and then within a culture, for some families it's a bigger deal than others.

I just calculated how many cousins I have (I had to write their names down on a bit of paper). It's a total of 6, two of whom are now dead. I think I've seen one of them in the last 10 years. We are all, to all intents and purposes, acquaintances. They're all perfectly fine people but they're not part of our lives.

Come to that I haven't seen my sister (who lives four hours away) in about 3 or 4 years — she's 8 years older than me. When our parents died we got together to sort stuff out, but otherwise we are polite acquaintances as our childhoods barely overlapped.

ShesTheAlbatross · 21/09/2025 15:57

Karmaisagod · 21/09/2025 15:51

OP, despite the mostly YABU replies, the voting currently stands at 57% YABU - 43% YANBU. I understand how you're feeling and, while I would not have gone nuclear (perhaps due to lack of balls), I would have been very upset. I don't understand who these parents are who could watch their child so roundly and thoughtlessly rejected, and remain temperate and equanimous. Perhaps they're the same parents who head for The Hague the second the year 1 class teacher tells off little Johnny. Who knows, it takes all sorts.

I hope you can move past the hurt soon, and see that you and your DH are absolutely enough for your DC, and you don't need to beg for the crumbs of unwilling family members. You will make your little family work. All the best.

No, it’s not parents who could see their child rejected and not care, it’s parents who don’t see it as a rejection.

I have a cousin a few months older than me. We never went to each other’s birthday parties, and neither of us ever saw that as a rejection.

Different families have different ways of doing things. OP thinks cousins should be invited no matter what. I would assume her SIL or BIL come from a family where this just isn’t the case. The child doesn’t want to invite their cousin, so the parents don’t make them, but they do say “maybe dont mention your fun party to your cousin, its not polite to talk about something they weren’t invited to”. And the child has thoughtlessly not been able to keep shtum.

Ocelotfeet27 · 21/09/2025 15:56

I would get DH to ask about why they didn't invite your DC. Tell them how you both feel (assuming it's a shared view), that you really want the DC to be close so they have each other when you're all gone, and it's very upsetting for DC to be excluded, even worse lying about it all. See if he can get the truth out of them and if whatever the issue is can be changed. If as some posters say it is because they find you too much, can DC be dropped off? If it is because they just can't be bothered can DH pick up their DC? Kindly I do think you're overreacting - I totally sympathise why and I think you're perfectly entitled to be upset. But your blocking them etc is too much and clearly stems from the wider sense of exclusion you mention in your last post. I'd be upfront, find out the reason, and see what can be done about it. But PPs ate also rigjt that family isn't everything, DC may well have friends and a partner who can be their family for birthdays and Christmas. Better no family than a shit one.

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:56

NeverEnterFromTheBackDoor · 21/09/2025 15:52

But you have money to take the cousin on holiday?

odd.

It doesn’t cost extra to take another child. We’re already paying for petrol and accommodation. A small amount of food is the only extra expense. A party, on the other hand, costs hundreds of pounds.

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beautyqueeen · 21/09/2025 15:55

Does your child not have any friends? Is this why it’s so important to you?

My child is an only, as am I and DH, but I don’t have this irrational fear that you have that she’ll be alone when we’re dead.

Concentrate on building friendships for your child, throw them a party! It’s sad your 7 year old has never had a birthday party!

Friends are the family you chose yourself.

Tastaturen · 21/09/2025 15:55

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:33

It’s horrible being an only child. I am one myself. Once your parents and grandparents are dead, you have to spend Christmas alone and you have nobody. I don’t want that for my DC or theirs. It’s nice to have family who you spend time with and are close to.

I’ve done my best but they basically don’t want anything to do with us or our DC. Which is really offensive.

This is not necessarily true at all! You're projecting your experiences. Your child will make their own way without you pushing in!