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To have nothing further to do with them?

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Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:09

I have one DC who only has one cousin (child of DH’s sister). I’ve always encouraged friendship on the basis that eventually they’ll be each other’s only family.

Both DC are 7. They love each other and are so excited when they get the chance to play together. But I’ve noticed over the past few years that SIL and BIL are increasingly not keen to facilitate any relationship. Visits are further and further apart.

We haven’t seen them for six months. I offered to have their DC to stay over the summer and they refused. I offered to take their DC on holiday with us and they refused. I invited them over for the day, suggested I could bring DC over to theirs for the day, but they always had an excuse. I offered to pick up and drop off their DC to make it easy for them but the answer was still no.

Their DC had a birthday last week. I thought it was odd that they weren’t having a party because they always do. They arranged to come over today with a birthday cake for a little tea party with PIL.

Anyway, their DC has upset my DC by talking about the fantastic birthday party yesterday. The party that they obviously hid from us and didn’t even mention to PIL in the family WhatsApp. Because they didn’t want us to know, because our DC wasn’t invited.

Understandably our DC has got quite upset at not being invited to their beloved cousin’s party this year. And I honestly don’t understand why. But this is just the latest in a long list, they clearly don’t want anything to do with us and I don’t understand why they’ve even come over today?

So I’ve gone nuclear. I refuse to have anything further to do with them. I went upstairs out of the way, I haven’t spoken to them since their DC announced this was their second party but they weren’t allowed to talk about the first party because it was a secret. I’ve left the family WhatsApp and blocked them on social media. I am just done with them.

AIBU to say I’m not having anything further to do with them, and neither is DC? If my DC isn’t good enough to be invited to the party yesterday then why have they come over today? I am so angry and upset. And DH is sitting downstairs having tea with them like everything is ok, because he doesn’t want to cause a fuss. Blaming me for going off on one. But it’s not me who has been nasty and excluded a child from a party.

OP posts:
MotherMary14 · 21/09/2025 16:24

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 16:15

I have moved on. By having nothing further to do with them. They used to blank me if I posted anything in the WhatsApp anyway.

They’ve put in their will that if they die we get their DC though. Well they can fuck off. Let one of their precious friends do it.

Are they still downstairs having a cup of tea with your DH? If so, why not take a deep breath and go and talk to them like the adults you supposedly are, because this is getting really out of hand and it will impact your DH, your PILs, future gatherings like Christmas and, most importantly, it's going to impact your child because there will be no going back from it. Calmly explain that you are hurt because they got their child to lie and you don't know why and would like a reason for it.

Aimtodobetter · 21/09/2025 16:23

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 16:00

Autism (Asperger’s).

I think this explains a lot about your reaction here - most NT people would not be so black and white in the way they treated someone as you are being here. You’re upset because the other parents are not facilitating the sort of relationship you want between the cousins - without realising that your child can have a lovely relationship with his cousin but on terms that both parents want. But the more you push this very intense relationship dynamic - or overreact when they don’t do things the way you want them to - the more they are likely back off. It sounds like you’ve felt excluded a lot in life so you are reacting based on your own hurts - you need prioritise what’s best for your child. Making this a bigger deal than it needs to be and in the process hurting what could otherwise be a nice if more distant relationship for the cousins is not fair.

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 16:23

nosleepforme · 21/09/2025 16:19

This is massively harsh and quite out of order.

I don’t think so. If friends are a higher priority than family, then they can put them down as their DC legal guardians in the event of their death, because I won’t be doing it.

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Hoppinggreen · 21/09/2025 16:22

They are family rather than friends, what have you done to make your own friendships or facilitated friendships for your child?

TulipCat · 21/09/2025 16:22

It's quite telling that you say this relationship is important and you want them to be close, yet the moment there is a bump in the road, you give up and flounce off.

It's very normal for cousins to branch out from each other once they're at school. They get their own lives and interests. They could have still had a lovely family relationship, just not at the level you wanted. But now with your tantrum, they may not be able to.

My brother and I have several boys between us, all similar ages. We used to go to parties and see each other a lot when they were little, but that petered out as school life got in the way. They still have a good relationship, but don't see each other nearly as often.

RisingSunn · 21/09/2025 16:21

Surely it was a "friends/school class" party rather than a family one. They even came over to celebrate you with you and DC!

Also - I'm not saying this is relevant here - but I have a niece that I loved buying things for, meeting up with, to visit places with my DC. Unfortunately, I haven't done so in the last few years because her parents consistently cross boundaries, are very entitled etc etc... and I've had to pull back.

Unfortunately that affects my DC's relationship with her too.

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 16:21

murasaki · 21/09/2025 16:16

I find it interesting that you feel happy to judge NT people but don't like it when it's done to ND people.

Mostly, people are ok. The OP has clearly contributed to the non relationship here, it's not all on the cousin's parents.

Actually I have done my best. Sent gifts. Invited them over. Offered sleepovers and day trips. Done them favours. I don’t know what else I could have done. If even family members don’t want to be friends or let their DC be friends with mine, then I might as well give up.

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Hoppinggreen · 21/09/2025 16:20

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:49

I’m just fed up. Everyone else has mum friends and their kids play together. I can accept myself and DC being excluded by others, but it’s hurtful when family does it as well. If they don’t want to be friends with us then they can bugger off completely, I’m sick of trying.

You are not taking anything anyone is saying on board are you?
You are projecting your own experiences onto your child
Sounds like you don't have many friends yourself but you need to encourage friendships for your child at school or clubs rather than blow up family remtionships over some percieved slight

murasaki · 21/09/2025 16:20

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 16:15

I have moved on. By having nothing further to do with them. They used to blank me if I posted anything in the WhatsApp anyway.

They’ve put in their will that if they die we get their DC though. Well they can fuck off. Let one of their precious friends do it.

I imagine they've changed that. I would have done.

You've dialled up the situation unnecessarily.

nosleepforme · 21/09/2025 16:19

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 16:15

I have moved on. By having nothing further to do with them. They used to blank me if I posted anything in the WhatsApp anyway.

They’ve put in their will that if they die we get their DC though. Well they can fuck off. Let one of their precious friends do it.

This is massively harsh and quite out of order.

IShouldNotCoco · 21/09/2025 16:19

murasaki · 21/09/2025 16:16

I find it interesting that you feel happy to judge NT people but don't like it when it's done to ND people.

Mostly, people are ok. The OP has clearly contributed to the non relationship here, it's not all on the cousin's parents.

I feel happy to judge an NT society when it has been my experience, yes. In my experience NT people can be really cruel to others. Then they say that autistic people have no empathy. Which is funny.

ReplacementBusService · 21/09/2025 16:18

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 16:09

This was my feeling. They don’t want anything to do with us and I don’t know why. It’s upsetting.

Ask them.

FlayOtters · 21/09/2025 16:18

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 16:15

I have moved on. By having nothing further to do with them. They used to blank me if I posted anything in the WhatsApp anyway.

They’ve put in their will that if they die we get their DC though. Well they can fuck off. Let one of their precious friends do it.

Jesus.

Lucy5678 · 21/09/2025 16:17

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 16:07

If it’s a choice between a holiday and a party then obviously we’re going to pick a 4 day holiday over a party that lasts a couple of hours. We can’t afford both.

A party costs about £300 by the time you factor in venue, food, cake, entertainment, party bags. We can have a summer holiday for that amount.

My child’s 7th birthday cost me about £20 on art materials, stickers and craft stuff, £10 on cake and baking supplies, the price of a couple of takeaway pizzas (could do cheaper and cook yourself) and a multipack of fruit shoots. Five kids has a great time in my dining room and went home with a cupcake they’d decorated, various pieces of artwork and a bar of chocolate.

You do not need to spend £300 on a party, but if you want Mum friends and your child to have class friends it might be one way to make the effort.

IShouldNotCoco · 21/09/2025 16:17

Some of these responses to the OP are really mean. She has told you all that she’s autistic. Maybe she has RSD? This is quite common in autistic people. Luckily I don’t have this. But for some autistic people it can be a very upsetting thing to live with.

@PouticelI don’t think AIBU was a good place to have your thread. Maybe move it to relationships?

murasaki · 21/09/2025 16:16

IShouldNotCoco · 21/09/2025 16:12

I’m autistic, too and so are 3 of my children.

I learned years ago to only socialise in
spaces with other ND people. And you can tell where these spaces are - you can tell who you fit with. It has been a very welcome modification to our lifestyle because NT people get on my nerves - the falseness. The saying one thing and meaning another. The bitching behind people’s backs and two-faced attitude. Its a dog eat dog world that causes MH issues for me and my kids.

My 5 year old and I just had a really nice summer holidays doing fun stuff with other people who like and appreciate us and whom we just gel with. I found a school, dance school and swimming club where we just fit.

I find it interesting that you feel happy to judge NT people but don't like it when it's done to ND people.

Mostly, people are ok. The OP has clearly contributed to the non relationship here, it's not all on the cousin's parents.

Hoppinggreen · 21/09/2025 16:15

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:21

It’s awful of them to invite friends but not an actual family member who they spend Christmas and holidays with.

If their DC had been asked then I’m 100% certain they would have wanted my DC at their party, because they love each other and are so excited when they get to see each other. This is absolutely the parents excluding my DC. To the point where they didn’t share any photos and told their DC it was a secret.

I feel like if my DC isn’t good enough to be invited to the party then they aren’t good enough to have cake with today either. And this is the latest in a long list of them not wanting DC to be close, for no reason that I know of.

You are trying to force a relationship and then behaving really badly when it doesn't go the way your idealistic picture in your head went
Its nice the cousins get on when they meet but you are over the top

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 16:15

murasaki · 21/09/2025 16:10

It may be upsetting, but they are allowed their choices so it's best if you move on from it. Walking off will have proved to them that they are making the right choice.

I have moved on. By having nothing further to do with them. They used to blank me if I posted anything in the WhatsApp anyway.

They’ve put in their will that if they die we get their DC though. Well they can fuck off. Let one of their precious friends do it.

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nosleepforme · 21/09/2025 16:15

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 16:09

This was my feeling. They don’t want anything to do with us and I don’t know why. It’s upsetting.

There’s never no reason.
your reaction today is giving them a reason on a silver platter. If you e not bothered to find out what the problem is or to fix it, how can you even hope the kids will be close?

CandidRobin · 21/09/2025 16:15

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:33

It’s horrible being an only child. I am one myself. Once your parents and grandparents are dead, you have to spend Christmas alone and you have nobody. I don’t want that for my DC or theirs. It’s nice to have family who you spend time with and are close to.

I’ve done my best but they basically don’t want anything to do with us or our DC. Which is really offensive.

This seems to be about your own issues that you should probably work on before you affect anymore of your child's relationships.

People normally lose their parents well into adulthood unless there are tragic circumstances that result in loss of both parents at a young age or their parents are much older when the children are born. By this time alot of people will be married, have a partner and often children themselves. Many people choose friends to spend Christmas etc with. It is not inevitable that an only child will be alone at Christmas. Even if your child was in this situation, her cousin may live far away or have her own family to focus on.

You cannot control other people or dictate their values. If their outlook on life, priorities or values differ from yours it does not mean they are cruel or bullies.

One of the most important and most difficult things we can do for our children is to examine our own demons and model positive behaviours including resilience, healthy communication skills, how to express emotions in a non-harmful manner and let them see through our responses to life events that our self-esteem doesn't have to be dependent on other people's perception of us. I believe that's how we support our children to build healthy, sustainable relationships.

TeamBuffalo · 21/09/2025 16:15

Your in-laws probably find your neediness and thin-skinned intensity exhausting and don't want more than the bare minimum of exposure to it, for themselves or their child.

Cynic17 · 21/09/2025 16:14

You sound like a spoilt child, OP, and very petty. Things change as children get older, and families don't need to live in each other's pockets.
There may be very good reasons why they don't want to spend time with you!

nomas · 21/09/2025 16:13

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 16:09

This was my feeling. They don’t want anything to do with us and I don’t know why. It’s upsetting.

I can totally understand why you suddenly had enough. I think you’ve realised that they’re never going to let DC have a meaningful relationship anyway.

How have they reacted to you leaving the group, not being there etc? Have they said anything to DH or PIL?

IShouldNotCoco · 21/09/2025 16:12

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 16:00

Autism (Asperger’s).

I’m autistic, too and so are 3 of my children.

I learned years ago to only socialise in
spaces with other ND people. And you can tell where these spaces are - you can tell who you fit with. It has been a very welcome modification to our lifestyle because NT people get on my nerves - the falseness. The saying one thing and meaning another. The bitching behind people’s backs and two-faced attitude. Its a dog eat dog world that causes MH issues for me and my kids.

My 5 year old and I just had a really nice summer holidays doing fun stuff with other people who like and appreciate us and whom we just gel with. I found a school, dance school and swimming club where we just fit.

lessee167 · 21/09/2025 16:12

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 16:09

This was my feeling. They don’t want anything to do with us and I don’t know why. It’s upsetting.

Are you only reading reply’s that agree with you. This won’t help.

The didn’t want you to take their seven year old on holiday! That’s fine I wouldn’t want my seven year old to go on holiday without me.

They obviously had a class party. That’s also fine and their choice.

They are not saying they want nothing to do with you. Please go rejoin the party