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To have nothing further to do with them?

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Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:09

I have one DC who only has one cousin (child of DH’s sister). I’ve always encouraged friendship on the basis that eventually they’ll be each other’s only family.

Both DC are 7. They love each other and are so excited when they get the chance to play together. But I’ve noticed over the past few years that SIL and BIL are increasingly not keen to facilitate any relationship. Visits are further and further apart.

We haven’t seen them for six months. I offered to have their DC to stay over the summer and they refused. I offered to take their DC on holiday with us and they refused. I invited them over for the day, suggested I could bring DC over to theirs for the day, but they always had an excuse. I offered to pick up and drop off their DC to make it easy for them but the answer was still no.

Their DC had a birthday last week. I thought it was odd that they weren’t having a party because they always do. They arranged to come over today with a birthday cake for a little tea party with PIL.

Anyway, their DC has upset my DC by talking about the fantastic birthday party yesterday. The party that they obviously hid from us and didn’t even mention to PIL in the family WhatsApp. Because they didn’t want us to know, because our DC wasn’t invited.

Understandably our DC has got quite upset at not being invited to their beloved cousin’s party this year. And I honestly don’t understand why. But this is just the latest in a long list, they clearly don’t want anything to do with us and I don’t understand why they’ve even come over today?

So I’ve gone nuclear. I refuse to have anything further to do with them. I went upstairs out of the way, I haven’t spoken to them since their DC announced this was their second party but they weren’t allowed to talk about the first party because it was a secret. I’ve left the family WhatsApp and blocked them on social media. I am just done with them.

AIBU to say I’m not having anything further to do with them, and neither is DC? If my DC isn’t good enough to be invited to the party yesterday then why have they come over today? I am so angry and upset. And DH is sitting downstairs having tea with them like everything is ok, because he doesn’t want to cause a fuss. Blaming me for going off on one. But it’s not me who has been nasty and excluded a child from a party.

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Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 23/09/2025 09:01

Differentforgirls · 23/09/2025 08:57

It got deleted though...

That doesn't mean it wasn't said.

Differentforgirls · 23/09/2025 08:58

SnoopyPajamas · 22/09/2025 18:07

OP isn't being bullied. She's just not being babied. She's a grown woman. As a reminder, this was her response when someone suggested she should take the heat out of the situation and downplay the birthday "rejection", for her daughter's sake:

Why should I say something untrue to pacify my child? When the truth is that her aunty and uncle have repeatedly rejected all contact with her and rejected the opportunity for her to be friends with her cousin. Then they turn up for a couple of hours and expect me to play nice and pretend it’s ok.

OP has issues around friendship and rejection. She interprets everything that happens in this light. She's not defending her daughter, she's defending her younger self. It's all about her. She has very rigid ideas about what family is "supposed" to do, and if they can't live up to that, it's all "fuck them" and going nuclear. Just look at the above. In her mind, she's been wronged, and that's more important than protecting her daughter's feelings. Aunt and uncle have "rejected all contact and rejected the opportunity for DD to be friends with her cousin" . . . except, they haven't, have they? They've come all the way to her house for a second birthday, actually. They've spent hours visiting. But it's not enough.

If OP won't sugar coat things for her own child, I don't see why we should all do so for her.

Yes she was.

Differentforgirls · 23/09/2025 08:57

Whatsthatsheila · 22/09/2025 16:55

and op hasn’t been downright offensive to her family and rude to other contributors.

saying an orphaned child can fuck off and live with non family members out of pure spite is what is nasty. The OP has a serious chip on her shoulder and using her ND as an excuse for that is not okay. Plenty of ND people on here have also called her out on this to which she’s not taken kindly to either so I maintain what I say… OP is quite probably the issue here

It got deleted though...

Differentforgirls · 23/09/2025 08:56

NeverEnterFromTheBackDoor · 22/09/2025 15:30

Admittedly I haven't read the full thread but what's been said that is bullying?

the OP has ignored a large amount of valid advice and hasn't presented herself perfectly.

Then you should have read the full thread.

ShesTheAlbatross · 23/09/2025 08:16

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 21:00

I suppose so. But they never used to have BIL’s parents on Christmas Day. They always spent it with us and then BIL’s parents came between Christmas and New Year. Then suddenly they couldn’t come for Christmas because BIL’s parents were arriving earlier.

I know MIL was very hurt when they said they weren’t coming for Christmas any more, she wanted to go to their house and they point blank said they didn’t have room for her. I’m sure they could have squashed up for a night or two but they just said no you can’t come.

They always spent Christmas with you, and not BIL’s parents, and yet your MIL got arsey when they decided to spend Christmas with the grandparents they didn’t usually see? Doesn’t she realise she got every Christmas for years? I would find that reaction really annoying

DetectiveDouche · 23/09/2025 07:58

I'm thinking that perhaps the problem between your DH (and you) and his sibling needs to be addressed first. Have you even tried to discuss this with them? It seems a bit weird to "go nuclear" without even a discussion.

Mellowbear · 23/09/2025 07:41

Look at the bigger picture the problem is you.

Endorewitch · 23/09/2025 00:46

Your DC wouldn't have known the other kids at the party. Children usually ask school friends to parties. And they did come over next day with a cake. But you took this as an insult and stormed upstairs. It seems to me a very good way of celebrating their DC birthday. Party with mates and a fun time with cousin.
Yes it is good to have cousins who are close to you,but honestly you sound a bit pushy.

pineapplecrushed · 23/09/2025 00:44

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:53

No idea. Probably because neurotypical people don’t like neurodivergent people.

oh here we go 🙄 neurodivergent.....
Maybe it's your entitlement that's a problem.

pineapplecrushed · 23/09/2025 00:41

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:42

DH wants me to be quiet and not cause a fuss, and just not bother with them any more in future.

I am absolutely fed up with being bullied and excluded throughout my life, and it’s hurt me deeply to see the same happening to my DC. And from a family member too.

You are projecting your own issues onto your child. That is not good parenting.

you have over reacted about this. My children don't invite cousins, just their school mates. When they DO see their cousins they have a great time and it's special in a different way.

pineapplecrushed · 23/09/2025 00:30

YABU. At age 7 kids are making their own friends at school. Inviting a cousin from another town is awkward because the other kids don't know them, and it can put the birthday kid in a stressful position.

A separate celebration with the cousin is entirely appropriate.

vickylou78 · 22/09/2025 23:12

Op I think this is a huge overreaction. My daughter is 7 and has a cousin who is 7 who came to her first few parties. But, by year 3 of school, the birthday parties are smaller groups of school friends and usually doing activities so numbers are limited so my daughter prioritises her school friends to invite to the party. I think that's very normal. Then we will have a separate little tea party for her grandparents and Cousin etc. which is exactly what your Sil has done!!
But no one here is offended!!!

Jorge14 · 22/09/2025 22:33

No you are not being unreasonable if that’s how you feel but maybe ask them why the distance instead of cutting them off. I can see why you are upset though because if my DC felt left out it would upset me too.

Middleagedspreadisreal · 22/09/2025 21:08

Have you actuallh ASKED what the problem is and expressed how hurt you and your DC are over not being invited to the party?

Marieb19 · 22/09/2025 20:42

Can I ask if you have a social worker? If you do, could she arrange for you to have a counselling or coaching session? There are a number of organisations that offer free coaching which may be able to help you reframe the situation and make it easier for you to move on.

Sunholidays · 22/09/2025 20:35

Pouticel · 22/09/2025 00:20

I don’t see the issue with inviting a cousin to stay for a few days during the summer holidays? Or inviting her to come with us to Blackpool for the weekend? Is this wrong? It seems fairly normal to me.

Of course it is. What is not normal is your in-laws behaviour. I'd go no contact too. If your DH wants to continue taking his parents to them, so be it. But I'd definitely stay out of these visits.

Marieb19 · 22/09/2025 20:21

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 21:49

I think this is absolutely awful. Only seeing your mum 3 times a year! And it’s shocking how many other people also aren’t arsed about their family and give more effort and time to friends.

It would be nice to have an actual family who live their lives together. My neighbour and her sister take turns having their kids at weekends, one has the kids so the other can go out. They’re proper sisters and their kids are a proper family who take care of each other. Sadly it seems like nowadays a lot of people care more about friends than their actual family.

I'm afraid you have set your sights on an ideal "family" set up the way you want it, but it doesn't work like that. We all have choices and different people want different family relationships, which can be equally valid. Your BIL & SIL obviously don't want the same relationship with you, that you expect. Give them and yourself some space, it is not healthy to obsess about a relationship like this. Focus on making friends yourself and helping your child to do the same.
Whilst it's great you still spend time with your MIL & FIL there is no need for your DH to operate a taxi service to facilitate meetings between them and his sister. They seem to have made it obvious they don't want much contact with the rest of the family, so leave them to make their own arrangements.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 22/09/2025 20:20

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 19:03

It means I won’t be pissing about with crumbs any more. Sharing photos and visiting for 5-6 hours once every six months. If they don’t want a proper family relationship with my DC then fuck them, it’ll be no contact from now on.

Well, fortunately your child has a father who can maintain contact with his and his child's family, including of course the cousin

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 22/09/2025 20:15

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 19:03

It means I won’t be pissing about with crumbs any more. Sharing photos and visiting for 5-6 hours once every six months. If they don’t want a proper family relationship with my DC then fuck them, it’ll be no contact from now on.

Poor poor poor DC.

You're making this all about you.

Hopefully your child will be able to salvage a family relationship with their cousins, notwithstanding your wrecking ball approach to family.

it's not all about you

Calloja23 · 22/09/2025 19:32

I think the adult thing to do would be to ask them if there is a problem and state the numerous times they have refused to interact , including the party. At least it will be put in the open.,

diddl · 22/09/2025 19:32

Excluding your child from the birthday party was only the most recent instance of their deliberately preventing the two cousins from spending time together.

Except they were obviously meeting up at the time!

Not wanting their child to stay, holiday or have a day out with Op I don't think is unreasonable.

myfavouritemutant · 22/09/2025 19:31

Pouticel · 22/09/2025 07:31

I have autism. That’s why I don’t have mum friends.

I’m so sorry @Pouticel. I can feel your pain as the thread has progressed. This is clearly another let down in a long line of let downs and struggles with friendships / relationships, rather than you having a meltdown over one incident. I think we can accept our own pain and hardships but it’s so much harder when we see the same happening to our kids.

Your SIL is what she is and I doubt she’ll change. I think you need to decide pragmatically whether it’s better for your daughter to have a superficial relationship with her cousin, or none at all. Personally I’d go for the former and try to partially mend bridges, but I know you may not feel able to do that.

Maybe for now focus on your little family unit, and the love that you can all give each other. For what it’s worth I was an only child who was very happy with my own company and that of my parents.

BigDeepBreaths · 22/09/2025 19:12

nomas · 22/09/2025 12:41

She's hurt and venting in a safe space, give her a fucking break!

I disagree. OPs thread is over 30 pages deep. She has had ample opportunity to vent and instead of taking on board any of the sound advice given in this thread, she is sounding increasingly unhinged and immature in her responses.

Buffs · 22/09/2025 18:51

ByPeachPeer · 21/09/2025 15:13

If your reaction is typical of your behaviour I can see why they've distanced themselves from you

As is often the case, first poster succinctly nails it.

Withlifethereshope · 22/09/2025 18:48

I'm joining this conversation very late! But I don't think you're behaving unreasonably. Excluding your child from the birthday party was only the most recent instance of their deliberately preventing the two cousins from spending time together. And clearly SIL and BIL are disinclined from providing explanations as to why it's never convenient to schedule playdates. Just do what you intuitively feel is right. It's completely reasonable for you to stop contact with SIL and BIL, if you feel that's what is needed now. If DH disagrees, he can be the one to initiate contact and facilitate meetings between DC.

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