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To have nothing further to do with them?

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Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:09

I have one DC who only has one cousin (child of DH’s sister). I’ve always encouraged friendship on the basis that eventually they’ll be each other’s only family.

Both DC are 7. They love each other and are so excited when they get the chance to play together. But I’ve noticed over the past few years that SIL and BIL are increasingly not keen to facilitate any relationship. Visits are further and further apart.

We haven’t seen them for six months. I offered to have their DC to stay over the summer and they refused. I offered to take their DC on holiday with us and they refused. I invited them over for the day, suggested I could bring DC over to theirs for the day, but they always had an excuse. I offered to pick up and drop off their DC to make it easy for them but the answer was still no.

Their DC had a birthday last week. I thought it was odd that they weren’t having a party because they always do. They arranged to come over today with a birthday cake for a little tea party with PIL.

Anyway, their DC has upset my DC by talking about the fantastic birthday party yesterday. The party that they obviously hid from us and didn’t even mention to PIL in the family WhatsApp. Because they didn’t want us to know, because our DC wasn’t invited.

Understandably our DC has got quite upset at not being invited to their beloved cousin’s party this year. And I honestly don’t understand why. But this is just the latest in a long list, they clearly don’t want anything to do with us and I don’t understand why they’ve even come over today?

So I’ve gone nuclear. I refuse to have anything further to do with them. I went upstairs out of the way, I haven’t spoken to them since their DC announced this was their second party but they weren’t allowed to talk about the first party because it was a secret. I’ve left the family WhatsApp and blocked them on social media. I am just done with them.

AIBU to say I’m not having anything further to do with them, and neither is DC? If my DC isn’t good enough to be invited to the party yesterday then why have they come over today? I am so angry and upset. And DH is sitting downstairs having tea with them like everything is ok, because he doesn’t want to cause a fuss. Blaming me for going off on one. But it’s not me who has been nasty and excluded a child from a party.

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Pouticel · 21/09/2025 20:53

NeverHadHaveHas · 21/09/2025 20:42

Are you taking on board what people are saying to you? Is it making you see the situation any differently?

Yes I have realised that they also don’t give a shit about PIL, not just us. And that it’s an absolute waste of time to expect your family to love and care about you. I’ve never had any family apart from parents so it would have been nice for DC to have a close relative, but they obviously don’t give a flying fuck.

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shhblackbag · 21/09/2025 20:51

I honestly think you have a bit of a DH problem, with him leaving you alone on Boxing Day. That seems mean.

ThisUniqueRoseRobin · 21/09/2025 20:49

ChicJoker · 21/09/2025 17:37

Shocked at the amount of people defending this. It’s incredibly bad mannered of them. That said, I wouldn’t have stealth blocked them and sat upstairs, I’d have confronted them there and then.

I’m not shocked at the cold hearted responses on here, unfortunately. Her reaction wasn’t great but I absolutely understand the hurt she feels for herself and her child.

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 20:48

3456DDF · 21/09/2025 20:37

Why can't their daughter (or her H) pick them up? Not your H have to take them all the time to his sister's house. They could sort it I am sure if they wanted to. They could pick them up, they could stay over, and their daughter could drop them home the day after.

Your H seems like he is happy to accept you and your child being excluded and a bit of a wimp tbh

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She doesn’t even telephone her mother never mind pick her up. She hasn’t visited for six months and DH recently found out she doesn’t even call. He had been assuming she called a couple of times a week like he does.

I don’t know why they don’t stay over. They just don’t seem to want to. Maybe medical reasons, maybe because BIL complains if his full weekend gets eaten up.

They used to come down here every six weeks or so. Arrive on Saturday, stay with PIL, go back on Sunday. But BIL was kicking off because it was eating up his entire weekend, and for some reason she couldn’t come without him. So then they started coming on Saturday morning and going back after dinner. And then they had to leave at 4pm so they had time to relax before bed. And then the visits got further apart. Now they ignore all requests and refuse all visits, claiming to be busy. It’s six months since we last saw them. I’m convinced they only came today because they wanted £££ presents for their DC’s birthday. We wont see them till Christmas now, which is the next gift occasion.

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Gagaandgag · 21/09/2025 20:47

Cluborange666 · 21/09/2025 15:35

I agree with you Op. It’s weird behaviour. Ask your DH to intervene.

Me too. I feel for you op. Sorry you are getting so much criticism here

diddl · 21/09/2025 20:44

They stopped coming for Christmas Day with us and PIL a few years ago anyway. Don’t know why.

But then you later said that they host BIL's parents who are unable to travel to you.

So that is surely why they no longer come for Christmas Day & why your husband takes his parents there on Boxing Day?

ZoeCM · 21/09/2025 20:43

OP, this is a complete overreaction. It's normal to invite friends rather than cousins to a birthday party at that age - but even if it wasn't, your reaction wouldn't be healthy. If your child isn't invited to a party, you need to show them how to handle the disappointment. Instead, you've whipped up a frenzy. I doubt this is the first time your in-laws have been on the receiving end of your toxic behaviour, and that's probably why they've distanced themselves.

shhblackbag · 21/09/2025 20:42

nosleepforme · 21/09/2025 16:19

This is massively harsh and quite out of order.

I actually don't think it is if they don't want anything to do with her. Why should she take their child in?

AguNwaanyi · 21/09/2025 20:42

Tamfs · 21/09/2025 15:18

'So I have gone nuclear' Vs 'So I have modelled appropriate adult communication and spoken to them away from the seven year olds about how I am feeling, how they see things and where we go from here'

That's your answer to be honest. Your poor DH.

Poor DH for what? How’s he suffering in this situation?

NeverHadHaveHas · 21/09/2025 20:42

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 20:36

BIL’s parents are very elderly and in assisted living. He has no siblings. My DC and theirs are the only two kids in our family. Due to lack of siblings and other relatives I’ve done my best to give them a family relationship. It’s literally just us and them, we have no other family. So basically our only family can’t be arsed with us. It’s horrible.

Are you taking on board what people are saying to you? Is it making you see the situation any differently?

MadameWombat · 21/09/2025 20:40

As a neurodivergent, I can see both sides of the story here.

It's really strange (and rude!) that they have not seen your child for 6 months when there has been ample opportunity. And also really strange that they asked the child to keep the class party a secret instead of explaining they are having a class party with local friends, and a family party with family who live far away. I bet if you had seen them regularly, then it wouldn't seem like you had been snubbed, and the reason would be more understandable.

However, it can also be a bit weird to have cousins at class parties when they don't know anyone else there as the dynamics can change, so it's not unusual for extended family to not be invited. Also, having to worry about lots of energetic children around elderly grandparents must be a worry.

Focus on the things you can control. (Get a bigger car?) Look up Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria. Read the book Let Them by Mel Robbins. Let your husband deal with them from now on.

💐

murasaki · 21/09/2025 20:40

Yes, the husband should be having the conversations, if any should happen, not the OP.

You should speak to him, OP, they are his family to liaise with, or not.

Wiltingasparagusfern · 21/09/2025 20:38

I believe that the rejection and exclusion that you have felt in your life is coming out now on behalf of your daughter OP. That’s what bullying and exclusion does - it leaves an imprint. So I can totally understand why you would go nuclear. This hits somewhere deep within you and anyone who has been bullied will understand that.

There comes a point though where you have to put your own stuff aside and do what’s best for your child. It sounds as though she loves her cousin and, while hurt about the party, will still be seeing her at family gatherings. I don’t think going no contact is the solution here. Really your husband should talk to them and find out what is going on, they are his relations and there is clearly a reason. Maybe one of the girls said something to the other or they had a falling out. I would get him to try and find out what is happening, and why.

Saladbar · 21/09/2025 20:38

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 16:28

They stopped coming for Christmas Day with us and PIL a few years ago anyway. Don’t know why. DH takes DC and PIL to their house on Boxing Day but I can’t fit in the car so I don’t go.

So this way they get to totally avoid you. It sounds like it’s really you they don’t like and are avoiding OP. And your son is being excluded as a result. It’s hard to have a relationship with a child if you don’t like the parents (you yourself are now doing this to your nephew because you no longer like his parents even tho it wasn’t his choice to not have your son at his party). So surely now you see the issue is between the adults.
and why the fuck would your SIL not be allowed to come to her own parents house for a small tea party for their grandchild? Really? I’d be fuming at you if I was them and can see why they don’t like you :/

murasaki · 21/09/2025 20:38

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 20:36

BIL’s parents are very elderly and in assisted living. He has no siblings. My DC and theirs are the only two kids in our family. Due to lack of siblings and other relatives I’ve done my best to give them a family relationship. It’s literally just us and them, we have no other family. So basically our only family can’t be arsed with us. It’s horrible.

But they probably have an active social life with friends, you need to work towards that for your family, not to rely on them, it's clear that they don't want it.

3456DDF · 21/09/2025 20:37

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 20:27

A taxi trip to travel 45 minutes will cost about £70-90, and the same on the way back. Thats £150-180 total. Are you mad? Nobody can afford that let alone pensioners. And public transport would be multiple buses, they’d be on the bus 2-3 hours each way. Sorry but you’re being unrealistic. Somebody needs to drive otherwise it’s just not accessible.

Why can't their daughter (or her H) pick them up? Not your H have to take them all the time to his sister's house. They could sort it I am sure if they wanted to. They could pick them up, they could stay over, and their daughter could drop them home the day after.

Your H seems like he is happy to accept you and your child being excluded and a bit of a wimp tbh

Ohmondeus · 21/09/2025 20:36

I can’t quite believe how many people are going on about the car/lifts.

OP I completely understand why you feel how you do. It sounds like you have been very unwell recently and family backing off at that time would be even more hurtful.

I don’t get their behaviour either and I don’t think it is your fault.

I get that feeling of rejection and not understanding what you have done. But I think the people saying match their energy are right. This would be a good thing to start with.

It is hard to find your people when you are ND. You can go all out and be friendly, extend invites etc, and still find people aren’t bothered and don’t return the effort.

Focus on giving your daughter a nice life, maybe join her up to some clubs and be kind to yourself

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 20:36

BIL’s parents are very elderly and in assisted living. He has no siblings. My DC and theirs are the only two kids in our family. Due to lack of siblings and other relatives I’ve done my best to give them a family relationship. It’s literally just us and them, we have no other family. So basically our only family can’t be arsed with us. It’s horrible.

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Scrimblescromble · 21/09/2025 20:34

@Pouticel You haven’t answered whether your perspective on how close the cousins ‘should’ be is one that’s been discussed out loud between the adults or just one that you’ve created in your mind? I don’t mean this unkindly. I just know as a fellow autistic person I do this a lot and can feel angry when others don’t follow the ‘plan’ I created in my head. I also struggle to separate my own childhood experiences from those of my ND child so it can feel like a double rejection IYSWIM. You can feel hurt and rejected but that doesn’t mean your SIL and BIL have done anything wrong.

Pogpog21 · 21/09/2025 20:31

you are being hugely over the top, immature and self-centred. Please act like an adult and speak to them politely and do not badmouth them or the situation in front of your DC. You’ve said that your DC and their cousins hadn’t seen each other in 6 months - that being the case, why WOULD the cousins invite your DC to their party with their friends? The child whose birthday it was would then feel obliged to spend time at the party with your DC rather than their close friends who they see all the time at school?

I am an only child with divorced parents so I understand the concerns you have but you have to focus on your child learning to love themselves and their own company first and foremost and then focus on making friends with people who want to be with them. You should focus on ensuring they are going to play dates and parties with kids from their class, rather than chasing a relationship with people who live nearly an hour away from you.

TheaBrandt1 · 21/09/2025 20:31

You sound very hurt and are lashing out. Please be careful you don’t burn your bridges.

It sounds like your expectations are different. It’s quite normal to just invite school friends at that age and older it’s not necessarily a rejection. It’s not the norm to invite family to birthday parties beyond the toddler years. And ironically the more you want and push for a relationship the more people pull away.

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 20:27

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 21/09/2025 19:32

To be fair, here the grandparents are excluding themselves by insisting on your DH giving them a lift. They could get a taxi or public transport. They shouldn't be sitting passively waiting to get a lift to see their grandchild.

A taxi trip to travel 45 minutes will cost about £70-90, and the same on the way back. Thats £150-180 total. Are you mad? Nobody can afford that let alone pensioners. And public transport would be multiple buses, they’d be on the bus 2-3 hours each way. Sorry but you’re being unrealistic. Somebody needs to drive otherwise it’s just not accessible.

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Bababear987 · 21/09/2025 20:27

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 19:31

“Why have you got such an emphasis on family being more important than friends? Why should your child be more important than others hes actually friends with?”
The question is why is my DC not considered to be one of cousin’s friends? Because they keep rejecting all contact and not facilitating a relationship between the girls.

Because she isnt an organic friend, she is a relative who it's very likely have been slightly pushed together by parents. Whereas children shes met and formed relationships with through school or social clubs will be more natural and easy. I grew up everyday with my cousins as my granny minded us but as we got older we met new friends and drifted apart, that's normal. They're my cousins, they are family, I care for them and see them occasionally but they are not my friends. Why are you forcing this so much? You are clearly projecting your own insecurities on your daughter.

TheLemonLemur · 21/09/2025 20:25

I can see both sides here. You cannot force relationships and kindly op you sound intense and your reaction suggests you are quite highly strung. Family invites to parties naturally decrease when you live further away and the children start school. My child's cousins still come to the parties but only as they are a sibling group of 3 so go and play together rather than feeling left out if my child is playing more with school friends they see daily

Aimtodobetter · 21/09/2025 20:23

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