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Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:09

I have one DC who only has one cousin (child of DH’s sister). I’ve always encouraged friendship on the basis that eventually they’ll be each other’s only family.

Both DC are 7. They love each other and are so excited when they get the chance to play together. But I’ve noticed over the past few years that SIL and BIL are increasingly not keen to facilitate any relationship. Visits are further and further apart.

We haven’t seen them for six months. I offered to have their DC to stay over the summer and they refused. I offered to take their DC on holiday with us and they refused. I invited them over for the day, suggested I could bring DC over to theirs for the day, but they always had an excuse. I offered to pick up and drop off their DC to make it easy for them but the answer was still no.

Their DC had a birthday last week. I thought it was odd that they weren’t having a party because they always do. They arranged to come over today with a birthday cake for a little tea party with PIL.

Anyway, their DC has upset my DC by talking about the fantastic birthday party yesterday. The party that they obviously hid from us and didn’t even mention to PIL in the family WhatsApp. Because they didn’t want us to know, because our DC wasn’t invited.

Understandably our DC has got quite upset at not being invited to their beloved cousin’s party this year. And I honestly don’t understand why. But this is just the latest in a long list, they clearly don’t want anything to do with us and I don’t understand why they’ve even come over today?

So I’ve gone nuclear. I refuse to have anything further to do with them. I went upstairs out of the way, I haven’t spoken to them since their DC announced this was their second party but they weren’t allowed to talk about the first party because it was a secret. I’ve left the family WhatsApp and blocked them on social media. I am just done with them.

AIBU to say I’m not having anything further to do with them, and neither is DC? If my DC isn’t good enough to be invited to the party yesterday then why have they come over today? I am so angry and upset. And DH is sitting downstairs having tea with them like everything is ok, because he doesn’t want to cause a fuss. Blaming me for going off on one. But it’s not me who has been nasty and excluded a child from a party.

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murasaki · 21/09/2025 21:28

Quandri · 21/09/2025 21:19

How come it’s too far for SIL to go to them but it’s not to far for your Dh to go? Isn’t the road the same length both ways?

You'd be surprised, both my parents and DP's seem to think the trains and roads only run one way!

YourDandyPlumBeaker · 21/09/2025 21:24

If the cousin has had a party with his school friends, it makes sense that your DC wasn't invited. I prefer party guests (children) to all know each other, so that nobody feels left out or awkward at a party.

Probably best not to create too much animosity which could blow up and completely destroy the family relationship for your DS. I would tell your SIL that you were just trying to comfort your DS and didn't mean to ignore them. But let them make the moves from now on with regards to meeting up.

At the end of the day we can't force people, even if they are family. I know this first hand, and now will not put myself out or offer invites to those family members who show very little interest in me, DH and DC. Your DS will be fine and grow up to have his own family and close friends hopefully, cousin or no cousin.

ttcat37 · 21/09/2025 21:21

My advice would be to take the hint and just keep away from them. Just let it go, stop wasting energy on it. If your kid want to be friends with their kid as adults then they’ll find one another. If not, they won’t. Lots of people love being only children. Don’t let your feelings about being an only child become their feelings too.

Pezdeoro41 · 21/09/2025 21:20

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 20:48

She doesn’t even telephone her mother never mind pick her up. She hasn’t visited for six months and DH recently found out she doesn’t even call. He had been assuming she called a couple of times a week like he does.

I don’t know why they don’t stay over. They just don’t seem to want to. Maybe medical reasons, maybe because BIL complains if his full weekend gets eaten up.

They used to come down here every six weeks or so. Arrive on Saturday, stay with PIL, go back on Sunday. But BIL was kicking off because it was eating up his entire weekend, and for some reason she couldn’t come without him. So then they started coming on Saturday morning and going back after dinner. And then they had to leave at 4pm so they had time to relax before bed. And then the visits got further apart. Now they ignore all requests and refuse all visits, claiming to be busy. It’s six months since we last saw them. I’m convinced they only came today because they wanted £££ presents for their DC’s birthday. We wont see them till Christmas now, which is the next gift occasion.

Is this perhaps nothing to do with your DC, and instead they're a casualty of an issue between adults in the family? How do your DH and his sister get on? And BIL/PIL?

FioFioSILK · 21/09/2025 21:20

You have fear your child will be left alone into he world without siblings. This is causing you to over focus on their cousin. The SiL doesn't think the way you do. Have nother child or let it go and accept you want more than they are able to give. A cousin doesn't compensate or replace a sibling.

AnnoyedMum2 · 21/09/2025 21:20

Have you and your husband ever offered to visit them without your in laws?

ForNoisyCat · 21/09/2025 21:20

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:09

I have one DC who only has one cousin (child of DH’s sister). I’ve always encouraged friendship on the basis that eventually they’ll be each other’s only family.

Both DC are 7. They love each other and are so excited when they get the chance to play together. But I’ve noticed over the past few years that SIL and BIL are increasingly not keen to facilitate any relationship. Visits are further and further apart.

We haven’t seen them for six months. I offered to have their DC to stay over the summer and they refused. I offered to take their DC on holiday with us and they refused. I invited them over for the day, suggested I could bring DC over to theirs for the day, but they always had an excuse. I offered to pick up and drop off their DC to make it easy for them but the answer was still no.

Their DC had a birthday last week. I thought it was odd that they weren’t having a party because they always do. They arranged to come over today with a birthday cake for a little tea party with PIL.

Anyway, their DC has upset my DC by talking about the fantastic birthday party yesterday. The party that they obviously hid from us and didn’t even mention to PIL in the family WhatsApp. Because they didn’t want us to know, because our DC wasn’t invited.

Understandably our DC has got quite upset at not being invited to their beloved cousin’s party this year. And I honestly don’t understand why. But this is just the latest in a long list, they clearly don’t want anything to do with us and I don’t understand why they’ve even come over today?

So I’ve gone nuclear. I refuse to have anything further to do with them. I went upstairs out of the way, I haven’t spoken to them since their DC announced this was their second party but they weren’t allowed to talk about the first party because it was a secret. I’ve left the family WhatsApp and blocked them on social media. I am just done with them.

AIBU to say I’m not having anything further to do with them, and neither is DC? If my DC isn’t good enough to be invited to the party yesterday then why have they come over today? I am so angry and upset. And DH is sitting downstairs having tea with them like everything is ok, because he doesn’t want to cause a fuss. Blaming me for going off on one. But it’s not me who has been nasty and excluded a child from a party.

Have you asked them why they are discouraging/ preventing the cousins friendship? There may be a misunderstanding somewhere along the line and they’ve perhaps not felt abke to sir their concerns with you? I would really want to know their reasons.

Quandri · 21/09/2025 21:19

How come it’s too far for SIL to go to them but it’s not to far for your Dh to go? Isn’t the road the same length both ways?

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 21/09/2025 21:17

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 20:27

A taxi trip to travel 45 minutes will cost about £70-90, and the same on the way back. Thats £150-180 total. Are you mad? Nobody can afford that let alone pensioners. And public transport would be multiple buses, they’d be on the bus 2-3 hours each way. Sorry but you’re being unrealistic. Somebody needs to drive otherwise it’s just not accessible.

But I didn't know it was a 45 minute trip? Or that they'd need to take multiple buses? But it's still their problem to get themselves to visit their other grandchild, not yours...

Perimama · 21/09/2025 21:17

I am sorry OP but you are being way too intense about this. I understand your concern as I also have an only child but you are putting too much pressure on your relationship with them. They have backed off for a reason. Let them take the lead now and if they don't bother very much, so be it. You need to revaluate how much headspace you are giving this for your own mental health. I am sure your daughter will have friends and family of her own one day, try not to worry.

stichguru · 21/09/2025 21:16

I would say stop making everything about your child. That would turn me off straight away. I imagine that their DC had a party with limited space and wanted to invite his whole class or friendship group which meant there wasn't room for your chid. Obviously if they suspected that this would wind you up so much that months later, given the chance to see your DCs interact again, you would rather post on Mumnet than watch your kids enjoy each other's company, not telling you about it was a sensible idea.

pandarific · 21/09/2025 21:16

Not a defence of them, but possibly a reason:

  • They wanted an active, noisy, light-hearted birthday party
  • Two very elderly and mobility challenged people
  • Two people with ASD
…they didn’t invite PIL and you and DD because they thought you all would be buzz kills? Idk, just a suspicion I’d have.
NeverHadHaveHas · 21/09/2025 21:15

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 20:53

Yes I have realised that they also don’t give a shit about PIL, not just us. And that it’s an absolute waste of time to expect your family to love and care about you. I’ve never had any family apart from parents so it would have been nice for DC to have a close relative, but they obviously don’t give a flying fuck.

That is not what the vast majority of people are saying to you. Can you not see that they do not owe you this idyllic relationship you have created in your own mind?

Squigglydums · 21/09/2025 21:15

You sound unbearable. Why are you even questioning why they came around to have cake with the PILs- and you seemed to have been invited to the family version of the celebration so why are you so angry? Sounds like you have taken this personally and projecting this onto your child. Poor child.

Tapsthemic · 21/09/2025 21:04

Hi OP, I’m really sorry they’ve hurt your feelings. Taking the emotion out of it for a second, if they were hosting a class party with limited numbers, is it not better to have a separate family party, so then the whole class can attend, rather than the whole class minus one child, to free up space for a cousin who won’t know anyone there?

My own DM didn’t have much of a family growing up and as a result she has been very territorial about her own family. Your replies remind me so much of how she has handled situations in the past. The impact? Only one of my siblings lives near her and she didn’t speak to her only living relative for over 20 years, because he wasn’t making enough effort. I’m not saying this to be critical, but to help you play the tape forward so you can see how one “blow up” can have serious consequences.

myspareusername · 21/09/2025 21:03

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 20:53

Yes I have realised that they also don’t give a shit about PIL, not just us. And that it’s an absolute waste of time to expect your family to love and care about you. I’ve never had any family apart from parents so it would have been nice for DC to have a close relative, but they obviously don’t give a flying fuck.

@Pouticel or they could care about all of you but just not as intensely as you would like them to.

I love my nieces and nephews. We live about 90 mins apart and see each about 4 times a year. If my SIL put all your angst and pressure on our DCs and me, I would dread our family meetings

tuvamoodyson · 21/09/2025 21:03

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:38

No reason at all. It’s weird behaviour. And mean too. I’m so sad for DC that there won’t be any cousin relationship, especially because there’s no other family.

So, you don’t think your unreasonable at all then?

Hoppinggreen · 21/09/2025 21:01

DD has a sister with 2 DC who we see around once or twice a year, my DBro has 3 DC and we se them a couple of times a year. My parents are dead and we see DH's Mum every few months SO its mostly just been the 4 of us and we have been very happy and had (still do) some great times.
Some people have bigger families and thats fine but if you don't its also fine, you can't force these thing so maybe accept that your family is mostly just 3 of you and get on with enjoying yourselves

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 21:00

diddl · 21/09/2025 20:44

They stopped coming for Christmas Day with us and PIL a few years ago anyway. Don’t know why.

But then you later said that they host BIL's parents who are unable to travel to you.

So that is surely why they no longer come for Christmas Day & why your husband takes his parents there on Boxing Day?

I suppose so. But they never used to have BIL’s parents on Christmas Day. They always spent it with us and then BIL’s parents came between Christmas and New Year. Then suddenly they couldn’t come for Christmas because BIL’s parents were arriving earlier.

I know MIL was very hurt when they said they weren’t coming for Christmas any more, she wanted to go to their house and they point blank said they didn’t have room for her. I’m sure they could have squashed up for a night or two but they just said no you can’t come.

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Threewordname · 21/09/2025 20:57

YABU and completely overreacting. It’s normal for children to want their school friends at their birthday party, rather than a cousin who probably none of the other children will know. It’s nothing to do with her "not being good enough".

Your DD and her cousin will always be related, but you can’t force a relationship
on them. If your in-laws don’t want to do anything to specially foster that relationship, there’s nothing you can do about it.

You have a dream of 'close cousins', but it’s your dream, not theirs. It doesn’t have to be all or nothing; when the girls are older they can organise their own get-togethers if they want to. Please don’t deliberately sabotage any chance of that.

It does sound, though, as if your DH needs to have a serious talk with his sister about why she doesn’t phone or visit her parents more often.

FlayOtters · 21/09/2025 20:57

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 20:53

Yes I have realised that they also don’t give a shit about PIL, not just us. And that it’s an absolute waste of time to expect your family to love and care about you. I’ve never had any family apart from parents so it would have been nice for DC to have a close relative, but they obviously don’t give a flying fuck.

so..... no.

Bababear987 · 21/09/2025 20:56

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 20:53

Yes I have realised that they also don’t give a shit about PIL, not just us. And that it’s an absolute waste of time to expect your family to love and care about you. I’ve never had any family apart from parents so it would have been nice for DC to have a close relative, but they obviously don’t give a flying fuck.

But not inviting cousins to bday parties is normal so why are you making such a big deal of this?
In my last post I asked why you think your child shouldve been invited over an actual friend when they obviously arent close?

Gagaandgag · 21/09/2025 20:56

Hopefully the girls might have more opportunities to have a friendship when they are older and the cousins parents are less influential?

murasaki · 21/09/2025 20:55

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 20:53

Yes I have realised that they also don’t give a shit about PIL, not just us. And that it’s an absolute waste of time to expect your family to love and care about you. I’ve never had any family apart from parents so it would have been nice for DC to have a close relative, but they obviously don’t give a flying fuck.

Well let them be then, and make some friends of your own. Don't give them space in your head. They owe you absolutely nothing, but equally that goes both ways

myspareusername · 21/09/2025 20:54

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 20:36

BIL’s parents are very elderly and in assisted living. He has no siblings. My DC and theirs are the only two kids in our family. Due to lack of siblings and other relatives I’ve done my best to give them a family relationship. It’s literally just us and them, we have no other family. So basically our only family can’t be arsed with us. It’s horrible.

So YOU want a close relationship between the cousins.

You are completely projecting your views on everyone and just assuming that everyone thinks the same as you.......... THEY DO NOT!

From this thread you must concede that:
Having a 'class' only party is normal

Having a 'family' only party is normal

Your DH / PIL needs to think of a better transportation so you can all be included

You need to put less emphasis on this cousin relationship as it is clearly not reciprocated by the other party

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