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Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:09

I have one DC who only has one cousin (child of DH’s sister). I’ve always encouraged friendship on the basis that eventually they’ll be each other’s only family.

Both DC are 7. They love each other and are so excited when they get the chance to play together. But I’ve noticed over the past few years that SIL and BIL are increasingly not keen to facilitate any relationship. Visits are further and further apart.

We haven’t seen them for six months. I offered to have their DC to stay over the summer and they refused. I offered to take their DC on holiday with us and they refused. I invited them over for the day, suggested I could bring DC over to theirs for the day, but they always had an excuse. I offered to pick up and drop off their DC to make it easy for them but the answer was still no.

Their DC had a birthday last week. I thought it was odd that they weren’t having a party because they always do. They arranged to come over today with a birthday cake for a little tea party with PIL.

Anyway, their DC has upset my DC by talking about the fantastic birthday party yesterday. The party that they obviously hid from us and didn’t even mention to PIL in the family WhatsApp. Because they didn’t want us to know, because our DC wasn’t invited.

Understandably our DC has got quite upset at not being invited to their beloved cousin’s party this year. And I honestly don’t understand why. But this is just the latest in a long list, they clearly don’t want anything to do with us and I don’t understand why they’ve even come over today?

So I’ve gone nuclear. I refuse to have anything further to do with them. I went upstairs out of the way, I haven’t spoken to them since their DC announced this was their second party but they weren’t allowed to talk about the first party because it was a secret. I’ve left the family WhatsApp and blocked them on social media. I am just done with them.

AIBU to say I’m not having anything further to do with them, and neither is DC? If my DC isn’t good enough to be invited to the party yesterday then why have they come over today? I am so angry and upset. And DH is sitting downstairs having tea with them like everything is ok, because he doesn’t want to cause a fuss. Blaming me for going off on one. But it’s not me who has been nasty and excluded a child from a party.

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Barney16 · 21/09/2025 21:58

Can't choose your family. Neither can you make it into an image of what you would like it to be. There may be all sorts of reasons why your SIL doesnt want to spend time with your family or parents. You find it upsetting but you have done your best so just let it go. Being so angry is just a massive waste of energy.

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 21:57

“The oddest thing in the whole set up is your DH prioritising taking PIL to your SIL’s and you being left all alone on Boxing Day tbh. That’s just really odd that one of the owners of the car would be the person who “can’t” go.”

Who should not go then? We can’t all fit in the car. DH the driver can’t stay at home. DC can’t stay at home alone. So it’s either MIL, FIL or me who has to stay at home. And it’s more important to MIL to see her daughter than it is for me to see my in-laws by marriage. And she wont go without FIL.

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NeverHadHaveHas · 21/09/2025 21:57

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 21:49

I think this is absolutely awful. Only seeing your mum 3 times a year! And it’s shocking how many other people also aren’t arsed about their family and give more effort and time to friends.

It would be nice to have an actual family who live their lives together. My neighbour and her sister take turns having their kids at weekends, one has the kids so the other can go out. They’re proper sisters and their kids are a proper family who take care of each other. Sadly it seems like nowadays a lot of people care more about friends than their actual family.

It is absolutely fine for people to prioritise friends over family. Just because you are related to someone doesn’t mean you get on. Are you saying you think people should prioritise people they don’t like because they happen to be related?

JustSawJohnny · 21/09/2025 21:57

Excluding PIL from seeing their granddaughter is awful imo.

But they haven't excluded PIL from seeing the GD - they're seeing her today.

There is no rule that family have to attend kid's birthday parties!

All of DS's parties were class only.

Summerhut2025 · 21/09/2025 21:56

They def sound like they aren’t interested in you guys or your PILs, stuff them. It was prob a bit dramatic blocking them but hey ho at least that will upset them and it might make them think about their behaviour towards their family. Give it a bit cooling off time then ask your husband to text them to see if the cousins want to face time. It’s then keeping the relationship just between the kids and then when they have their own devices they can keep in touch that way, means you don’t have to bother with them. Some people are just selfish and insular, it’s a shame for the kids, don’t see them again but do what you can to encourage the kids to have some contact, use the PILs if needs be.

Charltonstrek · 21/09/2025 21:55

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:49

I’m just fed up. Everyone else has mum friends and their kids play together. I can accept myself and DC being excluded by others, but it’s hurtful when family does it as well. If they don’t want to be friends with us then they can bugger off completely, I’m sick of trying.

Think I know what your going through op I also had similar feelings with my only ds but let me tell you this one day you will look back and realise you didn't need to worry my ds is doing extremely well with loads of friends and full of confidence you don't need to keep trying and thinking so hard relax and this time will pass and going forward you will feel alot better when you see your dc growing up into thier own person. Life changes so much its even possible they will initiate thier own friendship as adults stop giving this so much headspace let them get on with thier life and you and dc get on with yours

mumuseli · 21/09/2025 21:55

I get that you really want your DD to have her cousin as family there for her in the future, as you mentioned her having nobody else
.….but you seem to be putting a barrier in the way of that now with this anger and saying you’ll cut them off. Also you’re saying that you’d now refuse to be your DD’s
cousin’s guardian if something happened to the in-laws.
It’s clear that you’re feeling hurt, and I can see why. But surely you should put the girls (and your desire for them to have a strong relationship all through their lives) first.

murasaki · 21/09/2025 21:53

I'd donate bone marrow to my sister if it matched and she needed it but I'd rather not spend an afternoon with her at the moment. And that's OK. The other one is fine. You don't have to be friends with family. Two different things.

Tastaturen · 21/09/2025 21:52

@Pouticel some people don't have very nice families though.

murasaki · 21/09/2025 21:51

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 21:49

I think this is absolutely awful. Only seeing your mum 3 times a year! And it’s shocking how many other people also aren’t arsed about their family and give more effort and time to friends.

It would be nice to have an actual family who live their lives together. My neighbour and her sister take turns having their kids at weekends, one has the kids so the other can go out. They’re proper sisters and their kids are a proper family who take care of each other. Sadly it seems like nowadays a lot of people care more about friends than their actual family.

Well yes, as they can choose their friends, and like them. Blood doesn't mean you like people.

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 21:49

ThatRareLimeFinch · 21/09/2025 21:40

im sorry OP but you seem desperate here to force a friendship.

just because someone is family doesnt mean they have to be best friends.
as i said in my PP, i barely saw my cousins, never invited them to parties nor was i invited to theirs. still loved them, just didnt have to be best friends.

my DDs cousin who she sees every other week, i dont ever see her parents. havent in 4 years.

your posts are reading a little bit 'woe is me'

saying 'they can have their friends raise there kids and can f off' is just sounding like a child throwing their toys out. of course if something was to happen to them theyd rather have family raise their child.

hell, i dont see my own mum for months at a time, maybe 3 times a year. she lives 12 minutes away. we both drive. nor do we call each other regularly, maybe every 6-8 weeks at a minimum. can be upto 3 months before i even speak to her.

i see my DPs mum every week to take her shopping.

doesnt mean i care less about my own mum.

shes family, i know where she is if i need her and vice versa. it just means we accept were both adults who live their own lives.
no body needs to force any form of friendship.

I think this is absolutely awful. Only seeing your mum 3 times a year! And it’s shocking how many other people also aren’t arsed about their family and give more effort and time to friends.

It would be nice to have an actual family who live their lives together. My neighbour and her sister take turns having their kids at weekends, one has the kids so the other can go out. They’re proper sisters and their kids are a proper family who take care of each other. Sadly it seems like nowadays a lot of people care more about friends than their actual family.

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 21/09/2025 21:48

Ok so I can see you’re very hurt in all of this.

And yes, some aspects of their behaviour do seem quite odd. The oddest thing in the whole set up is your DH prioritising taking PIL to your SIL’s and you being left all alone on Boxing Day tbh. That’s just really odd that one of the owners of the car would be the person who “can’t” go.

The party - I don’t think it is that odd for a child to have a party with just school friends and not a cousin. Inviting cousins does tend to peter out by school age - keeping it going til 7 is quite a long time!

And if they never get an equivalent party invite back from your DC because you “can’t afford it”, they may well be upset about that. I put it in “” because it’s always a choice and a prioritisation, and tbh even at school the families who never give a party and yet expect their DC to be invited do end up breeding a bit of resentment.

So re your upset with this event, the thing to do would be to not say anything about it today, go on as normal for your DC’s sake so as not to ruin their day, and then just quietly have nothing to do with them from here on in. Not flouncing upstairs, no dramatically leaving WhatsApp groups. These things are just embarrassing tbh. You need to maintain your dignity.

Carandache18 · 21/09/2025 21:46

For your DC's sake, is there no chance that you would apologise for your reaction today, and explain in a simple, non-dramatic fashion that you are worried about your DC having no family as they grow up?

Just take the pressure off everyone. Then move forward.

Re. parties:
My own kids had school friend based parties, plus separate much smaller birthday cake -teas- and presents with family, and that was normal in our circles. We couldn't afford large parties either, except once when we had a joint one with another family. We had friends to the house for games and treasure hunts, and later things like cinema trips etc. You don't have to spend a fortune.

DistanceCall · 21/09/2025 21:45

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 19:31

“Why have you got such an emphasis on family being more important than friends? Why should your child be more important than others hes actually friends with?”
The question is why is my DC not considered to be one of cousin’s friends? Because they keep rejecting all contact and not facilitating a relationship between the girls.

"The question is why is my DC not considered to be one of cousin’s friends?"

Because your relatives are not necessarily your friends. It may be that the cousin was fed up of being forced to socialise with your child. It's not the end of the world.

You are projecting your own issues onto this situation. Not having siblings or other relatives doesn't mean that you are alone in the world. Chosen family is more important than blood family.

murasaki · 21/09/2025 21:44

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 21:40

I am keeping away from them from now on. It’s so disappointing. I would really have liked to have a nice family and for DC to have a nice family too. But they are a shit family.

And I'm sure they speak highly of you too.

This attitude is probably what has exacerbated this situation. Although I suspect you are bothered, they are not.

So yes forget about them, everyone will be happier.

BuckChuckets · 21/09/2025 21:41

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 21/09/2025 21:17

But I didn't know it was a 45 minute trip? Or that they'd need to take multiple buses? But it's still their problem to get themselves to visit their other grandchild, not yours...

This is it, isn't it?

@Pouticel do they even want your DH to keep bringing PIL? Maybe they stopped visiting them for a reason? And maybe the fact your DH keeps bringing them is making them think they need to distance themselves from him and you, too?

You sound very angry but equally very passive (just accepting there's no room in the car for you), I don't really understand it.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 21/09/2025 21:41

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 20:53

Yes I have realised that they also don’t give a shit about PIL, not just us. And that it’s an absolute waste of time to expect your family to love and care about you. I’ve never had any family apart from parents so it would have been nice for DC to have a close relative, but they obviously don’t give a flying fuck.

Great. Now you know that it's not a vendetta against you and your DC alone. That must make you feel better, it would me anyway.

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 21:40

ttcat37 · 21/09/2025 21:21

My advice would be to take the hint and just keep away from them. Just let it go, stop wasting energy on it. If your kid want to be friends with their kid as adults then they’ll find one another. If not, they won’t. Lots of people love being only children. Don’t let your feelings about being an only child become their feelings too.

I am keeping away from them from now on. It’s so disappointing. I would really have liked to have a nice family and for DC to have a nice family too. But they are a shit family.

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ThatRareLimeFinch · 21/09/2025 21:40

im sorry OP but you seem desperate here to force a friendship.

just because someone is family doesnt mean they have to be best friends.
as i said in my PP, i barely saw my cousins, never invited them to parties nor was i invited to theirs. still loved them, just didnt have to be best friends.

my DDs cousin who she sees every other week, i dont ever see her parents. havent in 4 years.

your posts are reading a little bit 'woe is me'

saying 'they can have their friends raise there kids and can f off' is just sounding like a child throwing their toys out. of course if something was to happen to them theyd rather have family raise their child.

hell, i dont see my own mum for months at a time, maybe 3 times a year. she lives 12 minutes away. we both drive. nor do we call each other regularly, maybe every 6-8 weeks at a minimum. can be upto 3 months before i even speak to her.

i see my DPs mum every week to take her shopping.

doesnt mean i care less about my own mum.

shes family, i know where she is if i need her and vice versa. it just means we accept were both adults who live their own lives.
no body needs to force any form of friendship.

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 21:38

Quandri · 21/09/2025 21:19

How come it’s too far for SIL to go to them but it’s not to far for your Dh to go? Isn’t the road the same length both ways?

DH drives up there and back here. SIL would have to drive down and back to collect them, then down and back to drop them off - twice as far.

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Pouticel · 21/09/2025 21:36

AnnoyedMum2 · 21/09/2025 21:20

Have you and your husband ever offered to visit them without your in laws?

Yes. The answer was no. Too busy.

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Homegrownberries · 21/09/2025 21:34

It sounds like you take a lot of things very personally when the reasons behind them might not actually have anything to do with you.

That will not make you easy company.

Lougle · 21/09/2025 21:33

Are the children both developmentally similar? I have children with ASD and they have similar aged cousins. In the early years they spent time together, but tbh as the years went on they really had very little in common. They're nice to each other now, but there's no pretending that they have anything in common.

Scrimblescromble · 21/09/2025 21:31

FioFioSILK · 21/09/2025 21:20

You have fear your child will be left alone into he world without siblings. This is causing you to over focus on their cousin. The SiL doesn't think the way you do. Have nother child or let it go and accept you want more than they are able to give. A cousin doesn't compensate or replace a sibling.

Apart from the ridiculous ‘have another child’ part the rest of this is spot on. (Unless it was sarcasm that I didn’t read correctly)

murasaki · 21/09/2025 21:29

FioFioSILK · 21/09/2025 21:20

You have fear your child will be left alone into he world without siblings. This is causing you to over focus on their cousin. The SiL doesn't think the way you do. Have nother child or let it go and accept you want more than they are able to give. A cousin doesn't compensate or replace a sibling.

But it's also not fair to have another child just to support a potentially difficult one. You can't guarantee that friendship either.