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Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:09

I have one DC who only has one cousin (child of DH’s sister). I’ve always encouraged friendship on the basis that eventually they’ll be each other’s only family.

Both DC are 7. They love each other and are so excited when they get the chance to play together. But I’ve noticed over the past few years that SIL and BIL are increasingly not keen to facilitate any relationship. Visits are further and further apart.

We haven’t seen them for six months. I offered to have their DC to stay over the summer and they refused. I offered to take their DC on holiday with us and they refused. I invited them over for the day, suggested I could bring DC over to theirs for the day, but they always had an excuse. I offered to pick up and drop off their DC to make it easy for them but the answer was still no.

Their DC had a birthday last week. I thought it was odd that they weren’t having a party because they always do. They arranged to come over today with a birthday cake for a little tea party with PIL.

Anyway, their DC has upset my DC by talking about the fantastic birthday party yesterday. The party that they obviously hid from us and didn’t even mention to PIL in the family WhatsApp. Because they didn’t want us to know, because our DC wasn’t invited.

Understandably our DC has got quite upset at not being invited to their beloved cousin’s party this year. And I honestly don’t understand why. But this is just the latest in a long list, they clearly don’t want anything to do with us and I don’t understand why they’ve even come over today?

So I’ve gone nuclear. I refuse to have anything further to do with them. I went upstairs out of the way, I haven’t spoken to them since their DC announced this was their second party but they weren’t allowed to talk about the first party because it was a secret. I’ve left the family WhatsApp and blocked them on social media. I am just done with them.

AIBU to say I’m not having anything further to do with them, and neither is DC? If my DC isn’t good enough to be invited to the party yesterday then why have they come over today? I am so angry and upset. And DH is sitting downstairs having tea with them like everything is ok, because he doesn’t want to cause a fuss. Blaming me for going off on one. But it’s not me who has been nasty and excluded a child from a party.

OP posts:
BruFord · 21/09/2025 22:37

@Pouticel You're clearly very hurt and upset, they don’t sound particularly kind people, not towards their own parents nor towards your DD.

Having said that, I’m an only child and had five cousins growing up. I never attended any of their birthday parties and they didn’t come to mine-we always invited our friends. Now that we’re older, however, we’ve become closer and do meet up when we can. We were all invited to one cousin’s milestone birthday this summer, for example (I couldn’t attend unfortunately but nice to be asked).

So it’s possible that your DD and her cousin will form their own bond in a few years without parental involvement.

In your shoes, I’d stop inviting them over for now and concentrate on your DH, DD, and your in-laws. Sometimes we have to accept that others don’t care about us and move on. I’m fond of my DH’s parents and siblings and we get on well when we’re together, but I let DH drive the relationships. If he/they organize a get together, fine, but I never take the lead. Ultimately, I love my children and my side of the family; I’m fond of his side and vice versa, but I don’t love them, iyswim.

Littlemisscapable · 21/09/2025 22:37

Bellyblueboy · 21/09/2025 22:33

OP - I think a lot of people can see why this couple have distanced themselves from you.

i would suggest you look into counselling to allow you to overcome the hear feelings, and understand where they came from.

it is important that you model reliance and boundaries m for your child. You are not healing with this in an emotionally mature way.

This. All this.

the7Vabo · 21/09/2025 22:36

Dee00 · 21/09/2025 22:29

Honestly you have really overreacted here, sorry but your response is not normal. I used to have family and cousins at DS birthdays when he was little, but once he reached school age it’s really just school friends, no family. We often just have a small family gathering on another day.
I can also tell you I have never been to a school friends party which has family attending, it’s literally school friends. It’s the norm. Your niece is that age now.

This is also my experience.

I wouldn’t invite kids not in the class to the school party where they won’t know the other kids. That wouldn’t be fun for them.

Patricia1704 · 21/09/2025 22:36

Have you felt rejected by people in the past? That might be effecting how you feel about this situation (understandably.) If you can separate the old hurt from this situation, is there a way to not go nuclear so that you can still have a relationship?
Albeit one that’s not as frequent as you would like. And try not to see that as ‘crumbs’ or a rejection, but just the level they choose to socialise.

murasaki · 21/09/2025 22:36

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 22:32

I don’t think arranging parties magically makes friends materialise. In fact I think you need to already have the friends in order to invite them to the party?

Invite kids from the school class. If you never invite you don't get invitations back. Thats how it works. There will be parties, playdates etc going on that your kid could be going to if you just made a bit of effort and stopped thinking the world owes you and your kid friends. It doesn't. You have to work a bit at it.

You're not telling me that your kid doesn't speak to anyone at school, as I'm not buying that. Self pity gets you nowhere but deeper into the hole you are digging for yourself.

Bababear987 · 21/09/2025 22:34

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 22:14

MIL has blood cancer which is terminal but not fast moving. I had breast cancer which is not terminal, I am recovering and hoping to return to work next year.

I don’t think my diagnosis is relevant. As I said, when I married DH (years before being diagnosed) I was so pleased to have a sister because I’ve never had any family. But she and BIL clearly want less and less to do with us, which is increasingly disappointing now there are DC in the mix.

Why would you think youd have a sisterly relationship with your SIL?

Also why are you so fixated on family being everything and friends being so unimportant. For many people friends are family they have made or chosen for themselves and enjoy and love them for who they are. Family on the other hand are nothing more than random humans with a genetic link, it doesnt mean you get on with them, trust them, love them or owe them anything. You have very unusual views that because someone shares a link through blood or marriage that they are much more important than a friend (ie someone who you've built an actual mutually beneficial, fun, loving relationship with.)

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 21/09/2025 22:34

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 21:57

“The oddest thing in the whole set up is your DH prioritising taking PIL to your SIL’s and you being left all alone on Boxing Day tbh. That’s just really odd that one of the owners of the car would be the person who “can’t” go.”

Who should not go then? We can’t all fit in the car. DH the driver can’t stay at home. DC can’t stay at home alone. So it’s either MIL, FIL or me who has to stay at home. And it’s more important to MIL to see her daughter than it is for me to see my in-laws by marriage. And she wont go without FIL.

Well frankly I’d expect your husband to take you when he goes, especially over the Christmas period, and especially with the DC. He can always take his parents another time.

Or no one could go that particular day.

Bellyblueboy · 21/09/2025 22:33

OP - I think a lot of people can see why this couple have distanced themselves from you.

i would suggest you look into counselling to allow you to overcome the hear feelings, and understand where they came from.

it is important that you model reliance and boundaries m for your child. You are not healing with this in an emotionally mature way.

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 22:32

murasaki · 21/09/2025 22:30

If you held some parties for your child, they might have friends and not need the cousin. As said, it can be done cheaply at that age. You need to encourage your child to be less insular as it clearly isn't making you happy.

I don’t think arranging parties magically makes friends materialise. In fact I think you need to already have the friends in order to invite them to the party?

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the7Vabo · 21/09/2025 22:31

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 22:10

I don’t love them any more after their behaviour. When I got married I was so pleased to have a new sister, but it turns out she’s an absolute bitch.

OP, she’s not your sister. She is DH’s sister which is an entirely different thing. You are overly romanticising that relationship & putting enormous pressure on it.

You seem to have a huge amount of rejection sensitivity which I’m sure you know is common when you are ND. My advice would be to work on it and past events you have felt as rejection rather than dumping all of that emotion of DH’s family and hyper focusing on a 7 year old who likely just had a party with their school friends which in my experience is what most kids do anyways.

murasaki · 21/09/2025 22:30

If you held some parties for your child, they might have friends and not need the cousin. As said, it can be done cheaply at that age. You need to encourage your child to be less insular as it clearly isn't making you happy.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 21/09/2025 22:30

murasaki · 21/09/2025 22:26

Well they don't expect a grown adult to stomp off in a huff and hide upstairs. Just to play nice like we all do at times when we're not feeling it.

They've been doing this for hours now. I'm amazed that they haven't given themselves a migraine.

Dee00 · 21/09/2025 22:29

Honestly you have really overreacted here, sorry but your response is not normal. I used to have family and cousins at DS birthdays when he was little, but once he reached school age it’s really just school friends, no family. We often just have a small family gathering on another day.
I can also tell you I have never been to a school friends party which has family attending, it’s literally school friends. It’s the norm. Your niece is that age now.

Scandalicious · 21/09/2025 22:28

I can understand why you feel so upset, I really can. I think though it’s worth remembering that before long the cousins will be able to decide for themselves when to meet and control their own relationship. So I would probably try not think of it too much as being about you or them, and keep possibilities open for the future.

I think your reaction sounds extreme and unhelpful but I do sympathise, and I know it can be hard. I am glad you are recovering, it must have been a really difficult time and it would have been nice if they’d been more supportive. I am sorry they aren’t and I hope the cousins will build their own relationship in the future.

I was surprised to hear they only live 45 mins drive away, I mean many people do further than that daily to school or work. Most people probably for work. It sounds like there is no easy public transport route though if a short drive is going to take 2-3 hours. Also I wonder about taxi cost, because I would have though a mini cab booked in advance wouldn’t be quite that much, but it’s all by the by I guess.

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CelestialGazer · 21/09/2025 22:28

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:49

I’m just fed up. Everyone else has mum friends and their kids play together. I can accept myself and DC being excluded by others, but it’s hurtful when family does it as well. If they don’t want to be friends with us then they can bugger off completely, I’m sick of trying.

So it’s not just your ILs that exclude you, but others too?

Given the OTT reaction you describe to the party exclusion (which as many others have said, is perfectly normal for a cousin by age 7), and your follow up comments, I think I can see why people might not choose to be friendly with you, and even go out of their way to distance themselves.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 21/09/2025 22:27

Hang on a sec, how can you say that you/your DC don't have any family in one breath and that you see your parents regularly in the next?

FudgeSundae · 21/09/2025 22:27

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 15:33

It’s horrible being an only child. I am one myself. Once your parents and grandparents are dead, you have to spend Christmas alone and you have nobody. I don’t want that for my DC or theirs. It’s nice to have family who you spend time with and are close to.

I’ve done my best but they basically don’t want anything to do with us or our DC. Which is really offensive.

Given you feel this way, YABU to cut your child off from their cousin over a party. You’re making it about you, not them, and cutting off a relationship that is currently strong. Yes maybe the parents were thoughtless, but don’t remove your child from this relationship!

YourWildAmberSloth · 21/09/2025 22:27

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 22:14

MIL has blood cancer which is terminal but not fast moving. I had breast cancer which is not terminal, I am recovering and hoping to return to work next year.

I don’t think my diagnosis is relevant. As I said, when I married DH (years before being diagnosed) I was so pleased to have a sister because I’ve never had any family. But she and BIL clearly want less and less to do with us, which is increasingly disappointing now there are DC in the mix.

She isn't your sister though is she? She didn't choose you or to have a relationship with you, your husband did. Likewise your niece and dc haven't chosen each other, they have sort of been thrown together. It works for you and dc but not for your ILs and niece and actually that's okay. Your dc maybe an only child but that does not mean that she is doomed to a life of loneliness. Focus on building friendships and relationships beyond your family and help your dc to do the same. Kids at that age want their friends to go to their parties, and given your reaction its understandable that they kept it a secret. You sound intense, you have rigid ideas about family and what they should do/feel, you have decided that this cousin should be an ideal friend for your dc and perhaps because of the ND, can't seem to understand that they might not feel the same way. If your dc is ND too, perhaps she struggles with friendships and that's really sad, but you would be more useful to her to helping her to develop friendships and resilience.

murasaki · 21/09/2025 22:26

Well they don't expect a grown adult to stomp off in a huff and hide upstairs. Just to play nice like we all do at times when we're not feeling it.

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 22:26

Netcurtainnelly · 21/09/2025 22:24

Kids don't care who knows each other and who dosent
It's only adults that have these hang ups.
The parent should ask the child who they want to their parties, not make the decision for them.

The OP has honorable intentions by asking the cousin to sleep over and go away together.
That is how bonds are formed.
The parents are blocking a cousin relationship being formed.

I would deffo mention about the party they weren't supposed to mention
How unkind.
Who does that and then expects to go over for tea and cake and everything be hunky dory?

Everyone apparently.

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Netcurtainnelly · 21/09/2025 22:24

MySweetMaggie · 21/09/2025 22:19

Their child probably wanted school friends there and they felt like your child would be the only one who didn't know anybody.

Did you have a rough childhood? Just an idea but I have an over reaction to being rejected (or my children being rejected) too. I have had to work on it over the years. When they were young, it felt so overwhelming when they were left out and I felt so responsible, as I felt I wasn't good enough either. I'm now early 50s and my children are older teens, so it's much better and I've learnt to live and let live.

Kids don't care who knows each other and who dosent
It's only adults that have these hang ups.
The parent should ask the child who they want to their parties, not make the decision for them.

The OP has honorable intentions by asking the cousin to sleep over and go away together.
That is how bonds are formed.
The parents are blocking a cousin relationship being formed.

I would deffo mention about the party they weren't supposed to mention
How unkind.
Who does that and then expects to go over for tea and cake and everything be hunky dory?

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 22:24

Mummypie21 · 21/09/2025 22:11

How often would you like to see them? My brother and his family live 2 hours away and we see each other every 1-2 months. I would have preferred more but it is too far.

That would be great but they only bother with us once every six months now. And they live a lot closer than your brother, who clearly makes more of an effort.

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murasaki · 21/09/2025 22:23

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 21:59

Yes, my family is awful. Hence why I’ve gone no contact with them.

I read this as your biological family.

So actually you meant your SiL and BiL, apologies for misunderstanding. They aren't your family though, so it was easy to misread that as you having cut off your own family.

Now was a typo for own. I missed the editing time slot.

myspareusername · 21/09/2025 22:22

FFS @Pouticel you really need to stop judging everyone to your unachievable standards.

Every family is different.
You are focusing on aspects you have no control over.

I don't see my family for months on end because we live 4 hours away. I still love them lots

I think your BIL/SIL are acting entirely normally for a busy family who both work full time and value their spare time. Your DH and PIL needs to encourage them to travel to your area.

NotToday1l · 21/09/2025 22:22

Pouticel · 21/09/2025 22:19

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect to be accepted into the family you marry into. Lots of people are close with their in-laws. My mother goes out with her SIL every weekend.

I don’t know what you mean by saying I’ve cut off my now family? My mum and dad are my only family and I see them regularly. The only people I’ve cut off are SIL and BIL, after today when I realised they clearly don’t give a shit about us or our DC.

Not all in laws are close, in fact I would say most aren’t from what I’ve seen in my own family, we just tolerate each other