Do you feel that the Mumsnet demographic is more…..

I would say most are centre but there are some better very vocal far left on here who are found concentrated on certain boards, often very obnoxious and aggressive

Where are you taking that from?

I was responding to the previous posters/s who said FWR was right-wing because women there have issues with surrogacy and 'transwomen'. I am

What makes me think you have what views? I didn't ascribe any views to you. I said people who don't think women should have protected spaces etc are not taking a left-wing position on women's rights.

I enormously dislike all of Trump, Farage, Musk, Putin and Nazis, since you ask.

Oddly, despite hanging out on the FWR a lot, I think it is still very L-leaning. The responses to threads about the impact of VAT in private school fees, on threads by SAHM’s, etc all scream R-wing to me. And even on the FWR board it’s fairly split because feminism/GI etc is not a L v R issue. Lots of R wing posters on there and lots of very centrist ones like me.

I’ve also noticed a shift to the right and goady posts which appear anti-feminists.

Regarding the state of debate, over the previous three pages there have been quite a few insults (wokerati etc). It’s becoming like American forums and that’s quite depressing. I suspect there are posters testing the ground to see how much they can push right views IMO (tin hat on).

I’m not voting because your question isn’t clear regarding the vote. Not sure what surrogacy has to do with this either?

unhelpful, but i think different threads bring out different left or right responses.

Oh, I see. Thank you, and I apologise, @CurlewKate .

She is talking about the OP on the thread on FWR

she isnt talking about this thread

What makes you think I think you have those views?

This thread is asking if mnet is more right or left wing, I answered the question while responding to your challenge.

Fwr is not the only issue being discussed. An opinion on one subject doesn't mean you agree with the same people on others.

You wanted to know where people stood, I told you. I would like you to reciprocate in the spirit of openness and debate. You have chosen to try to turn this into a single issue rather than engaging with the thread objective.

Yes, I agree, you see that all the time on here.

But you are! "I'm pretty sure OP did not mean...she was saying..." etc... but you are OP! And how can you be trying to resist a discussion you started?

Are you aware that not only can you no longer name change during a thread, but an OP's posts now highlighted even more clearly than they used to be?

We know you are the OP!

It's been pretty right wing for a while from my perspective. There are many people who can't see their own privilege too and those types are often quite right wing as they don't get why the less fortunate/marginalised don't just pull themselves together and get on with it.

Haven’t had the benefit of being here for a decade, but I’d say it wasn’t left, more small c. This excludes the recent influx of weird very right wing posts which seem mostly guest appearances

It's not as left wing as it used to be. I think it's quite a good mix, I like reading opinions from across the political spectrum.

Well post one then.

I answered one. You answer one. I'm not answering a weird screed about Putin/Nazis/Musk/Farage/Trump, as I have no idea why you'd think I'd have views aligned with them just because I think women should be protected from men who don't respect women's boundaries.

Suggestions! So you don't only spend your time scolding women on FWR

as a reminder you think 2 fully intact men shagging are having lesbian sex if they both identify was women so oddly I don't think much of what you think of is 'right' and 'left'

"There are two kinds of pride, both good and bad. 'Good pride' represents our dignity and self-respect. 'Bad pride' is the deadly sin of superiority that reeks of conceit and arrogance"

Well I can assure you that I haven't!

Men aren’t a ‘vulnerable minority’. It’s not right wing for wanting women to retain their own sex based spaces and sports.

No, that's not true. What you see on FWR is women insisting boundaries, and pointing out in clear terms that men who refuse to respect women's boundaries are a danger to women.

Women and girls don't need to be inclusive and accommodating of men who will not take no for an answer.

That is a left-wing position, not a right-wing one.

Agree.

I'll answer your question once you answer mine. Or are you a one issue poster?

It's definitely shifted rightwards in the time I've been here (20+ years). Whenever a story made the Daily Mail and there was a corresponding influx of users, they brought their views along. Also, as its got bigger, I suppose it's representing national views more which, I think are pretty conservative (small c) in the UK. I don't really look at politics threads anymore as I think they're clearly targetted by political activists.