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To ask for your feedback on my holiday itinerary for next year?

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ThatCyanSheep · 20/09/2025 22:47

I'm bored, and fed up of the weather so I've fully planned my holiday next year.

Any opinions of what more I can fit in/what I should take out are welcome!

NICE, France

Hotel: Ibis Budget Californie Lenval

Saturday 29th August

  • Fly to Nice - land at 11:30am (ish)
  • Tram to Hotel - 20 minutes by bus/9 minutes by tram
  • Store bag at hotel/check in (I am an ALL member so I have free early check in) and sort daypack/change to explore
  • 12:00 - about 3pm
  • Explore Nice old town & get lunch
  • 3pm - 5:30pm
  • Head back to Promenade des Anglais, get gelato, explore beach, coffee
  • 5:30-6:45
  • Head back to hotel, shower, freshen up, change
  • Dinner - find restaurant along Promenade
  • After dinner - sunset stroll then head back to hotel

Sunday 29th August

  • Breakfast in Nice
  • Nice ➡️ Vilefranche-sur-Mer
  • Walk around - visit harbour & town centre
  • Coffee & walk
  • Villefranche-sur-Mer ➡️ Antibes
  • Lunch on train or Antibes
  • Explore Antibes
  • Picasso Museum
  • Visit the port
  • Antibes ➡️ Nice
  • Relaxed afternoon - read on beach, try to catch some of the F1
  • Stroll back to hotel
  • Freshen up
  • Dinner

Monday 30th August

  • Monaco day trip
  • Breakfast in Nice
  • Nice ➡️ Monaco
  • Coffee & explore old town
  • Lunch
  • Walk the track (or at least some of it)
  • Visit the harbour, stroll along and eat
  • Monaco ➡️ Nice
  • Dinner

Tuesday 1st September

  • Beach club day

MILAN, Italy

Hotel: Ibis Milano Centrale

Wednesday 2nd September

  • Nice ➡️ Milan (early train, aim to arrive in Milan by midday)
  • Head to hotel, store bag and sort daypack
  • Explore, head to Duomo for fan event (or wherever the fan event is, it has not been announced yet)
  • Find somewhere for dinner
  • Back to hotel

Thursday 3rd September

  • Breakfast around hotel, explore the area
  • Head to Monza for the fan stage and other events
  • Back to Milan around midafternoon
  • Find lunch and explore
  • Galleria Vittorio Emanuele II and Brera
  • Dinner

Friday 4th September

  • Day trip to Lake Como
  • Train Milan ➡️ Como Lago
  • Breakfast in Como
  • Explore, visit the cathedral, funicular ride?
  • Como ➡️ Bellagio
  • Explore Bellagio
  • Bellagio ➡️ Varenna
  • Villa Monastero gardens
  • Varenna ➡️ Como
  • Como Lago ➡️ Milan
  • Dinner around the hotel

On Friday, visit grocery store to get water and snacks for the race weekend

Saturday 5th September

QUALI DAY - day in Monza

Dinner near hotel after qualifying

Sunday 6th September

RACE DAY

Dinner near hotel after qualifying
Pack bags
Full body shower to prepare for flight

Monday 7th September

  • Breakfast at hotel
  • Head to airport at 8am
  • Flight home around 11:30
OP posts:
ThatCyanSheep · 21/09/2025 09:51

MinnieMountain · 21/09/2025 09:36

Have you booked flights already? The south of France gets stupidly busy in August, so I’d do that bit after the F1.

No but I have the time off work planned - I need it to be that week because of the bank holiday

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NeverEnterFromTheBackDoor · 21/09/2025 09:49

SparklyCardigan · 20/09/2025 23:00

Fuck me, I thought I was a planner but I've never thought about after dinner strolls and showers a whole year in advance. You need time for wandering and spontaneity. Time that's unplanned to actually relax which is the whole point of a holiday.

Yeah this!!

i couldn't imagine being so regimented and rigid. Spontaneity is so much more fun.

lljkk · 21/09/2025 09:48

It's the sort of hol I would have planned when I was 26 & new to Europe. I like more countryside & adventure nowadays (30 yrs later). Hope you have a great time.

Bjorkdidit · 21/09/2025 09:45

ThatCyanSheep · 20/09/2025 23:02

Haha I have used ChatGPT to help a bit - I don’t know much about France!

Well in that case it's almost certainly going to be nonsense as it has no idea about how long people like to spend in certain places or even how they relate to each other in terms of distance.

Someone posted a similar question about it's suggestions for Iceland and a week's holiday included 3 day trips that included 10-12 hours of travelling to visit the far north, east and south of the island.

I tried it for an area of rural Spain that I know well and it suggested using buses and taxis that don't exist to ping pong back and forth across the region to visit village A on day 1, city B on day 2, village C on day 3 that was pretty much walking distance from village A, both of which were about 3 hours travel from city B.

Plus, like others have said, planning in this level of detail a year ahead is rather odd. Yes to planning flights and accommodation if it's available and high demand but otherwise, no need to keep anything other of a running list of things you might like to do while there.

MinnieMountain · 21/09/2025 09:36

Have you booked flights already? The south of France gets stupidly busy in August, so I’d do that bit after the F1.

JonathanGirl · 21/09/2025 09:33

I think it sounds great, but I don’t think you are allowing yourself enough time with your public transport connections.

But maybe that’s because you are travelling on your own so things are quicker.
Personally, if my flight landed at 11.30, I would be planning to get onto the bus/tram at the airport at 12 at the earliest, not be already checked in to my hotel, and ready to hit the town! I would be thinking “ok, ten minutes to get off the plane and into the airport, 10 minutes to get through passport control, five minutes to find the bus stop and buy my ticket, ten minutes wait for the next bus…

And then the same with all the other trains. Presumably you’ve checked how frequent they are. But I would want to arrive at each station a bit early so that I was sure to find the correct platform etc, which does eat into timings.

Our family have to take physical disability/mobility issues into account, so I do recognise we are much slower than most. But it still blows my mind a bit that you could fit so much in!

itsgettingweird · 21/09/2025 09:28

I’m impressed with your level of activity although a realise with F1 to fit in there has to be a level of planning as those timings are set.

My holidays usually look like

flight 6am, leave home 2.30am.

Oh yeah, that’s it except remembering what time I fly home but even then I’m given a pick up time 😂

Seoidin · 21/09/2025 09:27

ThatCyanSheep · 21/09/2025 08:43

I’m happy with basic! It’s a double bed and a shower - that’s all I really want!

Agree with pp - there isn’t much point in going abroad and staying in a boring IBIS identical to the same one in every city. At those price points could you find something locally owned that gave you a nice and more authentic experience? Broaden the horizon a bit.

FunnyOrca · 21/09/2025 09:25

MrsPatrickDempsey · 21/09/2025 08:48

In Lake Como I don’t think you will be able to do all
that you have planned in one day. The thing to note is the ferry times and how busy they are so there often isn’t availability for the trips you want to do.

Agreed. Unless you wake up in Bellagio, the idea of getting there, actually seeing some of the town, and then also getting out seems impossible to do anything else in a day.

My recommendation for Bellagio is to arrive one evening have dinner and a stroll, stay over night, explore early the next morning and then get the hell out of there before the ferries start loading the place up!

ThatCyanSheep · 21/09/2025 09:13

Absentosaur · 21/09/2025 08:57

I suppose what I meant was, why not just ‘shower’?

I’ve always called them everything/full body showers, just depends on what I’m going to do! I think it’s a social media thing haha

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Absentosaur · 21/09/2025 08:57

ThatCyanSheep · 21/09/2025 08:38

ChatGPT doesn’t. I do.

the f1 is, in a nice way, fucking minging. You get sweaty. You get dirty, even in a grandstand you’re heading to the shade every minute there’s not racing and you’re sitting in the mud (because even though it seems to rain overnight in Monza, it didn’t during the day!), you’re covered in suncream and insect repellent, so I want to have some time to really scrub that off so I’m not disgusting before I fly!

I suppose what I meant was, why not just ‘shower’?

MaybeIf · 21/09/2025 08:53

ThatCyanSheep · 21/09/2025 08:43

Hey? No, I haven’t

Ok, well, there’s another poster who adores F1 and has posted previously about this being her first solo trip to Monza, asking how to arrange a short holiday around the race, and asking with a similar attention to detail about exactly how to get to the track and away again.

ThatCyanSheep · 21/09/2025 08:52

ImAPreMadonna · 21/09/2025 08:49

I’d need a holiday to recover from your holiday!

Haha that’s how I felt this year! I’ve got the day off after I get home, so that’ll be my day to recover 🤣

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ImAPreMadonna · 21/09/2025 08:49

I’d need a holiday to recover from your holiday!

MrsPatrickDempsey · 21/09/2025 08:48

In Lake Como I don’t think you will be able to do all
that you have planned in one day. The thing to note is the ferry times and how busy they are so there often isn’t availability for the trips you want to do.

ThatCyanSheep · 21/09/2025 08:43

stringbean · 21/09/2025 08:42

Ibis Budget hotels are extremely basic: fine for a one night stopover but I wouldn’t want to stay in one for a holiday. I’d look for something a notch or two higher where at least the desk is manned 24/7.

I’m happy with basic! It’s a double bed and a shower - that’s all I really want!

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ThatCyanSheep · 21/09/2025 08:43

MaybeIf · 21/09/2025 08:38

OP, you’ve posted at least a couple of times about this trip before, if I remember correctly, including in minute detail about how to get to the F1 track. Now that you’re using ChatGPt to schedule your showers a year ahead of time, I honestly think you need to work on your anxiety. It’s a short break in the south of France and Italy, not being parachuted into Mogadishu in wartime. You don’t need to plan it like a covert ops mission.

Hey? No, I haven’t

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JoanOgden · 21/09/2025 08:42

There's a lot of travelling and your itinerary doesn't include most journey times. Working out the way to the station, getting there early to be ready, getting the train, minor delays, finding your way at the other end - these are all time-consuming and a bit tiring. So make sure your itinerary allows for them.

There's a lot of strolling around which personally I would get bored of quite quickly, but presumably you enjoy!

stringbean · 21/09/2025 08:42

Ibis Budget hotels are extremely basic: fine for a one night stopover but I wouldn’t want to stay in one for a holiday. I’d look for something a notch or two higher where at least the desk is manned 24/7.

Ineedahaircutnow · 21/09/2025 08:39

I liked the Marc Chagall museum more than the nearby Matisse museum. Those close for lunch and get really busy so planning timings would be pretty helpful actually. I also liked the Photography museum and MAMAC. There is a lot of good food everywhere but recommend this one for atmosphere and service as well as food:
www.comptoirdumarche.fr/en/#restaurant

MaybeIf · 21/09/2025 08:38

OP, you’ve posted at least a couple of times about this trip before, if I remember correctly, including in minute detail about how to get to the F1 track. Now that you’re using ChatGPt to schedule your showers a year ahead of time, I honestly think you need to work on your anxiety. It’s a short break in the south of France and Italy, not being parachuted into Mogadishu in wartime. You don’t need to plan it like a covert ops mission.

ThatCyanSheep · 21/09/2025 08:38

Absentosaur · 21/09/2025 08:36

Why does chat gpt specify ‘full body shower’?

ChatGPT doesn’t. I do.

the f1 is, in a nice way, fucking minging. You get sweaty. You get dirty, even in a grandstand you’re heading to the shade every minute there’s not racing and you’re sitting in the mud (because even though it seems to rain overnight in Monza, it didn’t during the day!), you’re covered in suncream and insect repellent, so I want to have some time to really scrub that off so I’m not disgusting before I fly!

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ThatCyanSheep · 21/09/2025 08:36

HollyGolightly4 · 21/09/2025 08:30

I think planning is good 🤷🏻‍♀️ you don't have to stick to the timings exactly, but it's good to have an understanding!

If it were me, I wouldn't go to the town of lake Como. I'd get the train directly to Varenna (it's really easy from Milan central) and I'd split my time (boat trips) between Varenna and Bellagio. I think you'd get the most out of them that way, rather than including Como as well, which is much further down.

Oooh I’ll take a look at that - I loved como this year, but then again I have been there before so I’m not bothered by skipping it!

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Absentosaur · 21/09/2025 08:36

Why does chat gpt specify ‘full body shower’?

crumpet · 21/09/2025 08:35

Why full body shower before the flight? I’d save it until you get home to relax and recover from the flight